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MycoBotanisaceae
MycoBotanisaceae



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Genetics and Breeding of Edible Mushrooms pdf?
#24145029 - 03/07/17 10:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Does anyone know where I could find a PDF, of this or free download?
Book: Genetics and Breeding of Edible Mushrooms
Author: A.C. Chang
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Genetics and Breeding of Edible Mushrooms pdf? [Re: MycoBotanisaceae]
#24154039 - 03/11/17 01:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I can usually find anything but fuck I have exhausted everything I can try and no luck
sometimes when books are a black hole to find you can take some specific phrase in the book and search for that as a last resort "results of allozyme studies on edible mushrooms" I took that from the table of contents and googled it any only the books.google preview shows up. This book is the definition of a black hole, I would be surprised if someone can find a copy for free somewhere.
another example is "methods of genetic manipulation in coprinus cinereus" but that only returns others using the book as a citation
Edited by bodhisatta (03/11/17 01:43 PM)
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Genetics and Breeding of Edible Mushrooms pdf? [Re: bodhisatta]
#24154078 - 03/11/17 01:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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MycoBotanisaceae
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Re: Genetics and Breeding of Edible Mushrooms pdf? [Re: bodhisatta]
#24154431 - 03/11/17 04:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
bodhisatta said: here's the consolation prize though,
hopefully you find this one enjoyable
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24154074/vc/1#24154074
Look's awesome, gonna take a read. Thanks!
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AndyHinton


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Re: Genetics and Breeding of Edible Mushrooms pdf? [Re: MycoBotanisaceae]
#24155591 - 03/12/17 09:09 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I looked all over for this book. I doubt a PDF was ever made. It was published just as Adobe was inventing portable document format.
There are copies going for $100 used and $200 new. Your best bet is to find a library that has it and photocopy the articles you want.
I happen to live near a copy. Please PM me if you need help.
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Edited by AndyHinton (03/12/17 09:09 AM)
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Genetics and Breeding of Edible Mushrooms pdf? [Re: AndyHinton]
#24155790 - 03/12/17 10:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'll ask a buddy at university to see if they can ILL or scan it
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Re: Genetics and Breeding of Edible Mushrooms pdf? [Re: bodhisatta]
#24157850 - 03/13/17 01:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thank you for the thread.
Bodhi, thank you for the link.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Genetics and Breeding of Edible Mushrooms pdf? [Re: MycoBotanisaceae]
#24163920 - 03/15/17 09:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yea.... No shit. You going to buy it for us and scan it in?
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c10h12n2o
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Re: Genetics and Breeding of Edible Mushrooms pdf? [Re: bodhisatta]
#24184950 - 03/23/17 01:25 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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there is a pdf version, google books has a few chapters here: https://books.google.com/books/about/Genetics_and_Breeding_of_Edible_Mushroom.html?id=cMop6Dbni_kC
seems like a killer book! ive checked lots of academic databases with no luck so far, ive found dozens of citations but no full text. i can confirm there is a pdf version though (and lots of fake sites pushin malware with fake versions)
its also hosted here, but we dont have permission https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwQ8HgXThYyrTlpTYWNrOW01U2s/view
here are some links to buy it: http://www.gettextbooks.com/isbn/9782881245619/
here is a great article on the same topic, a little newer https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233735019_Trends_in_Mushroom_cultivation_and_breeding
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Edited by c10h12n2o (03/23/17 01:28 AM)
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c10h12n2o
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Re: Genetics and Breeding of Edible Mushrooms pdf? [Re: c10h12n2o]
#24186250 - 03/23/17 01:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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ok so i have been really diggin for this, found lots of really interesting books that are now on my to-read list (textbooks on mycorrhiza, tropical mushroom production, a really promising one called Microbiology Research Advances : Mushrooms: Types, Properties and Nutrition : Types, Properties and Nutrition)
i have found lots of citations but no full text of what you requested. I did find that it is at a select few libraries around the world though, perhaps an industrious member might run and grab a copy and scan it for the rest of us
here is a page that lists which libraries have it in stock: http://www.worldcat.org/title/genetics-and-breeding-of-edible-mushrooms/oclc/831365997
let me know if anyone is close enough to grab a copy! looks like great info, deliciously technical
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AndyHinton


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Re: Genetics and Breeding of Edible Mushrooms pdf? [Re: c10h12n2o]
#24186320 - 03/23/17 02:26 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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For sure, man. I live down the street from a copy.
I won't do the whole book in one sitting. But I planned on getting "Culture collections," "Breeding for mushroom production in Lentinula edodes," and maybe "Physiology and the breeding of Flammulina velutipes" soon.
So the offer stands: PM me with the chapters you want. Over the next months, we can figure out how to get the whole book on the Shroomery.
Maybe trade hard copies for wedges and promises to scan and upload? It'll take some teamwork because the book is over 300 pages long.
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Edited by AndyHinton (03/23/17 08:04 PM)
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c10h12n2o
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Re: Genetics and Breeding of Edible Mushrooms pdf? [Re: AndyHinton]
#24186341 - 03/23/17 02:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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SWEET!! thats awesome thanks buddy! I will have some chapter requests for sure...
many libraries have book scanners they will let you use, makes it damn simple, some are totally automated, others you just turn the page and press the button, wouldnt take as long as pouring 200 plates of agar haha...
there are even ways to do it well with a phone. but the scanners are just so easy
let me know what i can do to help, im down for sure
bear in mind, this is probably copyrighted material, almost certainly not public domain, so we arent supposed to share it... and none of us would ever do anything we werent supposed to do
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AndyHinton


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Re: Genetics and Breeding of Edible Mushrooms pdf? [Re: c10h12n2o]
#24186383 - 03/23/17 02:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's the plan, to photocopy the chapters I need for my own research and upload them to the same place I keep all my other notes, which happens to be the Shroomery.
If other people at Cornell, Harvard, Penn State, or Rutgers do the same, I can't stop them. New York Public Library also has a copy. Compiling links is just a part of taking notes.
At least it's not an Elsevier imprint.
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Edited by AndyHinton (03/23/17 02:55 PM)
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drake89
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Re: Genetics and Breeding of Edible Mushrooms pdf? [Re: AndyHinton]
#24188395 - 03/24/17 10:13 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The genetics part is almost certainly out of date. I haven't looked but it might be an update of the version from the 70s...
Applied genetics stuff is almost out of date as soon as it's printed, the technology moves so fast!
I'd still like to read the whole thing. From what I recall reading last year there wasn't much to glean from the available chapters.
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mycoprog
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Re: Genetics and Breeding of Edible Mushrooms pdf? [Re: drake89]
#24238628 - 04/12/17 08:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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saved.
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Re: Genetics and Breeding of Edible Mushrooms pdf? [Re: mycoprog]
#24242800 - 04/14/17 07:51 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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