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MattyBear
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Re: I've got a chaga culture...Now what? [Re: MrGiraffe]
#21434776 - 03/20/15 07:24 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've got chunks and dust which do you suggest i use? Should I clean chunks with alcohol first? I've never used any antibiotic agar would that help?
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Re: I've got a chaga culture...Now what? [Re: MattyBear]
#21435216 - 03/20/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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I tried chunks with the same results. They were several months old though. If you have antibiotic agar I'd use it.
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Re: I've got a chaga culture...Now what? [Re: MrGiraffe]
#21435346 - 03/20/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Can I ask what you are hoping to accomplish by taking the Chaga to agar?
The medicinal properties obtained from chaga are a result of its symbiotic relationship with a birch tree. Many of chaga's compounds come from the birch tree.
I have not heard of medicinal properties associated with chaga mycelium being used and I don't believe you are going to be able to grow anything from the mycelium.
Is your intention to subject specific birch trees with your acquired chaga mycelium in hopes that the chaga mass will form?
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Re: I've got a chaga culture...Now what? [Re: Migraine]
#21437681 - 03/20/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's all in the thread man, but there are benefits from growing chaga mycelium. I plan on growing it on agar, so that I can transfer it away from the natural contaminates, then agar to LC, then LC to rice. Then I can completely grow out the myc on rice, dehydrate, powder. From there I will do a tincture, tea, extract, tonic or just take in pill form.
Check out page 1.
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Re: I've got a chaga culture...Now what? [Re: MattyBear]
#21438329 - 03/21/15 03:26 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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From a fresh chunk it's quite easy to get a clean culture. Just have to use your force a bit. Dig a piece from the side that was against the tree. H2O2 agar works fine.
I grew this nine years ago on newspaper and coffee grounds. It started to form something - hard "pins", but I spoiled it by opening the bag. Not enough moisture outside I guess. (As usual, I didn't have the best conditions) http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5033317
At the moment semi-cultivation is tested in Finland on some 200 farms. The easiest is probably just drill some holes to your live trees and contaminate them with pieces of chaga, although the researchers here use dowels made with their "secret recipe", LOL. Only five dowels is used per tree, meter apart. http://puheenvuoro.uusisuomi.fi/sites/default/files/imagecache/biggest/domain-15605/kuvat/WP_20140701_11_21_22_Pro_2.jpg
I would consider of using more dowels..
They calculate that one tree can give max 8 KG after 5-10 years. Or 400 grams per meter. The price for the grower/picker has been around 50-100 Euros/KG. http://jukuri.mtt.fi/bitstream/handle/10024/482024/Raha%20R%C3%A4%C3%A4seikk%C3%B6%20-%20pakurinviljelymenetelm%C3%A4t%20-%20NWFP%20Espoo%202013_RP%20Vain%20luku.pdf
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Re: I've got a chaga culture...Now what? [Re: Speeker]
#21438524 - 03/21/15 06:40 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just checked out you grow, nice job. I have never had much luck with paper subs myself....or chaga for that matter.
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Re: I've got a chaga culture...Now what? [Re: MattyBear]
#21504051 - 04/04/15 09:03 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Chaga!
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Re: I've got a chaga culture...Now what? [Re: MattyBear]
#21505006 - 04/05/15 04:41 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: I've got a chaga culture...Now what? [Re: MrGiraffe]
#21505060 - 04/05/15 05:45 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Lookin good, looks like it wants to eat some rice.
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Re: I've got a chaga culture...Now what? [Re: WillowHarvest]
#21540563 - 04/13/15 07:12 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Chaga on rice, growin like a champ!

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Re: I've got a chaga culture...Now what? [Re: MattyBear]
#21557067 - 04/16/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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10 days later....Brown rice is the shit!
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Re: I've got a chaga culture...Now what? [Re: MattyBear]
#21659053 - 05/09/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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I need help once again....I just put the chaga on brown rice into a dehydrator.
1) I went ahead and put it in the dehydrator before i saw any brown liquid forming due to super colonization because it seems like the myc has hit its peek and has started to recede.
2) When i opened the containers they smelled fermented. Not like contamination, but yeasty almost.
So what happened?
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Re: I've got a chaga culture...Now what? [Re: MattyBear]
#21662064 - 05/10/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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How did you prep the rice before inoculation?
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Re: I've got a chaga culture...Now what? [Re: MrGiraffe]
#21662112 - 05/10/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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I found this WBR Tek online, but I forget who I got it from.
2 parts water, 1 part WBR. Simmer covered 20min. Simmer uncovered 10min. until water has evaporated. Strain. Rinse until water is clear. Air dry 45min. PC 75min.
After the first 20 min. I took the cover off and simmered for another 10. The rice seemed cooked about half way, but there was stil a bunch of liquid so I strained off excess liquid. Rinsed and air dried for about 2 hours. 45min and it still felt too wet.
It was growing great for a while and then kinda stalled and when i noticed it seemed to be receding I decided to pull it.
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Re: I've got a chaga culture...Now what? [Re: MattyBear]
#24139033 - 03/05/17 03:22 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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There is A LOT of misinformation about chaga, even from the great Paul Stamets, whose Mycelium Running book, was grossly incorrect about what diseases chaga could help alleviate, repping reishi as the ultimate medicinal. I assume this is because chaga doesnt grow where he lives and therefore he doesnt have as much experience with it. Even above there is information that has long been proven incorrect, chaga does produce spores via tubes that it can produce after a 10-20 year growing period. The tubes dont last long and fall off when it has finished reproducing. It is a parasitic species of fungi, in fact, the most brilliant example I have seen. It increases the birch tree's ability to fend off other parasites and micro-organisms so that it can have a monopoly on the birches nutrients. People have mistaken this as a symbiotic relationship, but the chaga will inevitably eat through the pith of the tree, it will destabilize and lose flexibility, and inevitably snap, killing the tree and the chaga. I have succeeded on inoculating living birch hosts in the past, using active mycelium bound to the tree where I cut into it. With that being said, the mycelium grown on agar takes months to grow an inch. It is extremely slow growing and I wouldnt believe anyone who says they have successfully cultivated it, without pictures. Its not a simple fungi and we still have incredible amounts to learn about its health benefits on humans as well as its impact on the Northern environments, where its found.
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