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Re: Need Electrical Help? [Re: Kenetic]
    #24136963 - 03/04/17 06:25 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Ok ive got a question:

im planning on installing a hot tub panel outdoors. We just bought 60ft of outdoor UF-B 6-3 copper wire rated for 50 amps.

My question is can i run this outdoor grade wire along the wall of my house without using conduit piping? Part of the wire i am going to bury underground by slicing a section out of the concert path we have. Another large section of the outdoor wire is gunna be inside the walls of our garage.

But that edge along the outside of our house is what puzzles me: can i just staple it to the wall or does it need to be in conduit?

Also, for the section of concrete i cut out for the wire: do i just put sand down then put the outdoor wire in the sand, then add the concrete to fill the small trench?

thanks for the help :thumbup:


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Re: Need Electrical Help? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #24137941 - 03/05/17 06:49 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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LogicaL Chaos said:
Ok ive got a question:

im planning on installing a hot tub panel outdoors. We just bought 60ft of outdoor UF-B 6-3 copper wire rated for 50 amps.

My question is can i run this outdoor grade wire along the wall of my house without using conduit piping? Part of the wire i am going to bury underground by slicing a section out of the concert path we have. Another large section of the outdoor wire is gunna be inside the walls of our garage.

But that edge along the outside of our house is what puzzles me: can i just staple it to the wall or does it need to be in conduit?

Also, for the section of concrete i cut out for the wire: do i just put sand down then put the outdoor wire in the sand, then add the concrete to fill the small trench?

thanks for the help :thumbup:




It's funny I was just looking into a somewhat similar question last night.  That is, where does Romex need to be in conduit.  The short answer is where it is exposed to possible damage, like from your wall to a water heater.  Or in your case, likely up along the wall of your house.  The rest of the wire in your case is direct burial so the underground portion doesn't need conduit.  Likewise, I don't imagine the wire in your garage would be but that's a maybe.  You get into local codes and such at some point.  Anyway, the basic "idea" is that at some point you don't want Romex shoved tight into a conduit because it could overheat.  You get into percent of the space the wire takes up in the conduit and if you go above that with too fat a wire in too small of conduit that ain't good.

Your particular wire it turns out needs a minimum 1 1/2" conduit or maybe 2" would be better but that's a pretty fat pipe alongside your house.  As to the concrete, I don't know if that cable can be concreted so you need to check that out.  The other question is are there concerns where the wire goes through the conduit as to keeping it from cutting that edge of the plastic.  Google is a tool just ask your question and you end up in some forum with people that know electrical stuff in detail.


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Re: Need Electrical Help? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #24138073 - 03/05/17 08:26 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

You would be better off returning the UF And running conduit the whole way. 1" PVC. I don't have my code book in front of me, but I think the NEC requires conduit for spas and you're not supposed to run romex thru conduit with out stripping it either. If you decide to stick with the UF then just sleve pvc over it where it is coming up out of the ground and anywhere above ground. Also make sure you bond anything metal within 5' of the spa.


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