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OfflineTaffy
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They arent pinning...
    #2412763 - 03/09/04 11:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i have 3 cakes. i birthed them 17 days ago. i got 3 pins on the first cake, and i am drying 2 of the shrooms right now. the other two cakes havnt done anything. about 3 days ago i dunked them, they got bruised all over, and the mycellium still hasnt grown over it or anything. I fan like 4 times a day. what should i do about it now?



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Re: They arent pinning... [Re: Taffy]
    #2412782 - 03/09/04 11:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

throw them in the fridge over nite.


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Re: They arent pinning... [Re: dobinky]
    #2412796 - 03/09/04 11:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

when i dunked them, they were in the fridge, in water, for 12 hours


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Re: They arent pinning... [Re: Taffy]
    #2412949 - 03/10/04 12:40 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

are they fully colonized? how long did you wait after they appeared fully colonized?


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Re: They arent pinning... [Re: ]
    #2413016 - 03/10/04 12:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)


innoculation on january 24th
colonization begins on january 29th
100% colonization on february 16th
cakes birthed february 21st
first pin february 29th
2 more pins march 3rd
first pin reaches 3 inches march 6th
cakes dunked for 12 hours march 6th


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Re: They arent pinning... [Re: Taffy]
    #2413032 - 03/10/04 12:58 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i'm no expert. but you should pin before birthing if i am not mistaken. for good yields at least. did you cold shock the cakes while dunking them march 6th? if you did, i don't see why, unless your environment is off, you should have good cakes man.


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Re: They arent pinning... [Re: ]
    #2413230 - 03/10/04 01:48 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

ppl in shroomery chat told me to birth at 100% colonization.

march 6th, i put the cakes in half pint jars, filled with water, capped, stuck in fridge for 12 hours, took out, and thats that.


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Re: They arent pinning... [Re: Taffy]
    #2413467 - 03/10/04 03:14 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

what are your temps and how humidity?. High temps can stunt pinning or delay it. Mid 70's is good.


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Re: They arent pinning... [Re: ReTrIbUtIoN]
    #2413477 - 03/10/04 03:21 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

yeah check temps and humidity thats prolly your best starting pount


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Re: They arent pinning... [Re: Taffy]
    #2413493 - 03/10/04 03:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i noticed there is no verm on your cakes? Id definatly double end case them in wet verm and roll them in moist verm....


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Re: They arent pinning... [Re: DieCommie]
    #2413555 - 03/10/04 04:36 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

im operating on a low budget, so i dont know the humidity. the temperature inside the terrarium is 82*F. thats the temperature today tho, not for the last 2 weeks. bay area here, so we have record heat today and yesterday. how can i lower the temp?


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Re: They arent pinning... [Re: Taffy]
    #2413609 - 03/10/04 05:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

humidity is probably tha problem
dracula once told me he ran into something similar with cakes and perilite
cakes need more humidity than casings
try some things to get up yr rh
increase misting
or you can get a piece of plexiglass like suggested in original pf tek
82 sounds good to me for cakes
but i wouldn't let it fluctuate more than 5 degrees


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Re: They arent pinning... [Re: Taffy]
    #2413659 - 03/10/04 06:06 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Was there any freezing on the cakes when in the fridge, they should not have brused. They also seem to look dry is there any condensation on the outside of the chamber.

As far as waiting till they pin to birth don't. YOu want to do the dunk, it really pays off in the long run I've tested this many times as have others. I like to dunk for 24 hrs and I do it after every flush also.

I came up with something called the dunk and roll that you may want to try I think that may help you a bit. (This is before there was a dunk and roll)

Shit it's been a year since I came up with the Poorman's Pod

Here is a log from the first bunch of cakes grown in one, there may be something in it that can help.

Grow Log
Tek : PF
Strain : South American [SA]
Spores : Came from homemade prints. 36 total jars to be injected.
Substrate :Brown Rice Flour [BRF] and Vermiculite [Verm]
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10:15 PM 3/4/03 : Project is started. Jar prep is just putting small holes in the lids for the spore syringe and then taping them closed until inoculation. Tape used is the standard black electrical tape. First batch of jars is mixed. The mix used is 2 parts verm, 1 part water, and 1 part brf. [ This mix is the max fruiting formula by PF.] Mix is put into 1/2 pint canning jars lightly, not packed in, and left it airy. Put substrate in until it reaches the threads of the jar, then add dry verm the rest of the way.
Jars are PCd at 10psi or 240f for a period of 45 minutes. Then jars were left to sit overnight to cool.



8:39 PM 3/5/2003 : First batch of jars injected. (24 jars)

10:04 AM 3/6/2003 : Incubator is running to low 77F. Going to turn it up today.



5:45 PM 3/6/2003 : Second batch of jars is in the PC will be injected tomorrow. Turned up incubator runs at 83F. 86F is the best and if the incubator is 83F and myc growing in the jars is suppose to create a little heat I figure this should work out well.

1:11 PM 3/7/2003 : Second batch of jars is done. (12 jars)

12:10 PM 3/9/2003 : Jars are doing good, no signs of contams



2:54 AM 3/19/2003 : Tape removed from the holes today and coffee filters put over the top of the jars for added protection. Holes were opened so the CO2 in the jars could escape. I gave 12 jars to a friend who kept fucking up. 24 jar?s about 75%done.



12:13 PM 3/22/2003 : Well it's Saturday and the jars will probably be done by the 25th. So it was 36 jars. 12 were given to a friend, 24 done by Tuesday.

10:26 PM 3/23/2003 : 15 jars were done enough to put into dunk. I dunk and cold shock before birthing and after every flush. The other 9 jars have a spot the size of a pea that has to be covered so I'll do those on the 25th.



7:17 PM 3/24/2003 : 15 jars put into the pod. Put in and put a layer of moist verm on top. With geolite I just put the cakes on it. With some other chambers I put the cake on a lid filled with verm. This is done to give the shrooms on the bottom and the top of the cake some added moisture.
The other 9 jars just finished so I'm going to give them a couple more days to make sure the middle of the cake is done.



4:57 PM 3/27/2003 : 5 More cakes birthed today, 4 left going to do them tomorrow or 3/29/2003

3:58 PM 3/29/2003 : Well I lost another cake. My wife's little 1 cake pod made from a 2 liter and a small fish pump and a little geolite used up her last cake so I gave her a SA to grow. The last 3 are in the cold shock dunk.
So the total is 36 jars done all colonized with no contams. 12 given to a friend, 1 to the wife, 23 mine

12:08 PM 3/30/2003 : Last of jars put in

12:02 PM 3/31/2003 : The first 15 cakes are pinning nicely and some have shrooms coming from the bottom.



11:01 AM 4/3/2003 : Things look to be going well.



1:02 AM 4/4/2003 : Took the first flush from four of the cakes. More will be done later today.



5/8/2003 : Total 23 cakes 164 grams dried.

Good luck.
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Re: They arent pinning... [Re: Magash]
    #2420362 - 03/11/04 08:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

its 74* in there now. and ya the walls of the terrarium are fogging up. for the last like 20 days i would mist it twice a day, spray the perlite and the walls. then about 4 days ago i stopped misting and it fogged up. thought id try something different cause the first way wasnt working. and thanks guys :smile:


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