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alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates
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I had been planning to grow oysters on a sawdust based substrate supplemented with soybean hulls, but i am having a hard time locking them down, what are some alternatives that go well with saw dust for oysters?


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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: Mycologist217]
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Wheat bran

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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: Gr0wer]
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how come you use wheat bran for shiitake but soy hull for Oyster if the wheat bran does well enough for oyster?


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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: Mycologist217]
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It doesnt.  Unless you go up to maybe 40% but I've never tried it.  Cottonseed hulls would be my backup.


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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: drake89]
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Cottonseed hulls is what I needed to hear!!!


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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: Mycologist217]
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Found the soy hull...expensive.  10$/50lbs


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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: Mycologist217]
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Can you get wheat germ or wheat bran?


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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: Ferather]
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Yeah I have wheat bran for the shiitake substrates...14$/50lbs


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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: Mycologist217]
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Might be cheaper to get bulk wild bird seed and grind it up.


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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: Mycologist217]
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Mycologist217 said:
Found the soy hull...expensive.  10$/50lbs



thats cheap. Well worth the yield increase.

Edited by Gr0wer (03/05/17 09:11 PM)

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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: Gr0wer]
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Straight up Spelt hulls, no gypsum, no supplementing except for the grain spawn and no watering...They work better than straw. Already the right size and used for animal bedding in most cases... I pay $60 Can. for a tote that weighs 600-700 pounds...


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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: Crispykoot]
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the soy hull actually was only 5$/50lbs...the Lady ordered me 20bags instead of 10!! a years worth of soy hull for 107$ and she's bringing it to me...nice


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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: Mycologist217]
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Damn good deal!

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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: MorePies]
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Beetpulp or Sunflower millings.

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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: MorePies]
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Soy hull pellets cost me only £7.10 ($8.66) for 20kg (44lbs), cheaper than bran.
Plus pellets are great and easy to use, here is a CA-US vendor I found.


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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: Ferather]
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We buy it per day price. 180 euro a ton (1000kg) beetpulp is cheaper.

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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: hassingw]
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Soybean hulls...GE and sprayed with Glyphosate...Gotta wonder about uptake into the mushrooms...I do. That's why I love the Spelt Hulls...at that price they are certified og.


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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: Mycologist217]
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Mycologist217 said:
I had been planning to grow oysters on a sawdust based substrate supplemented with soybean hulls, but i am having a hard time locking them down, what are some alternatives that go well with saw dust for oysters?




I add 1/4" alfalfa pellets to my spawn before I layer spawn into straw bags. i mix them dry into the spawn after breaking up the bag. As i layer I add both spawn and alfalfa together (handful per layer). The do just fine. Bags come together in 10-12 days and fruit on day17-21. I guess you could just over wet the sawdust a little and add the pellets with spawn after pasteurizing the bags. I have used beet pulp before in sterilized bags as well like hassing said. Works good.


Bags made on 3/1 of 3015

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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: lipa]
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Spelt (wheat) hulls, unsupplemented, no gypsum, and no watering. 2-3 flushes...Organic too..A very underrated substrate that is much much easier to work with than straw. Try it...Probably one of the most available subs too...




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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: Crispykoot]
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That's 3015...


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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: Crispykoot]
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Crispykoot said:
Spelt (wheat) hulls, unsupplemented, no gypsum, and no watering. 2-3 flushes...Organic too..A very underrated substrate that is much much easier to work with than straw. Try it...Probably one of the most available subs too...







Nice Grow Room!!!
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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: TravelAgency]
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20 foot container, back framed/insulated with some galvanized sheet metal over it...I found metal roofing works better on my other one. Has its own pump, pressure tank, electrical box...Plug and play.


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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: Crispykoot]
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May be I missed something but that is sterilized and not pasteurized I suppose?

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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: Crispykoot]
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Crispykoot said:
20 foot container, back framed/insulated with some galvanized sheet metal over it...I found metal roofing works better on my other one. Has its own pump, pressure tank, electrical box...Plug and play.



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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: TravelAgency]
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i'm using a 55gal Stainless steel drum i modified into a steam sterilizer, to Yes, sterilize sawdust/soyhull bags



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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: lipa]
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lipa said:
I add 1/4" alfalfa pellets to my spawn before I layer spawn into straw bags. i mix them dry into the spawn after breaking up the bag. As i layer I add both spawn and alfalfa together (handful per layer). The do just fine. Bags come together in 10-12 days and fruit on day17-21. I guess you could just over wet the sawdust a little and add the pellets with spawn after pasteurizing the bags. I have used beet pulp before in sterilized bags as well like hassing said. Works good.



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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: Ferather]
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Hope your yields justify the grow bags. Good luck! :frenchie:

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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: frog48]
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25% yield at the first flush yeah it will.

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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: hassingw]
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I don't think he mentioned his yield, I didn't see it.

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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: frog48]
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A little late here, but I have used wheat bran, alfalfa, alfalfa/Bermuda,rice bran, and recently soy bean meal.
The best results I've gotten so far are csh/soy bean meal. I get 25% first flush. Soybean meal is more expensive, but almost 3x more protein than any of the other supplements I named, so the price really equals out.

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Re: alternatives to soybean hulls for oyster substrates [Re: frog48]
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No but I know from experience what that type of substrate should yield.

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