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Re: 35 Billion increase in military spending [Re: Morel Guy]
    #24130966 - 03/02/17 11:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

We're living in a new McCarthy era.  Before, it was an anti-communist witch hunt.  Now that communism is dead in Russia, it's an anti-peace witch hunt.

"You spoke with someone in Russia to see if you can make peace?  Traitor!"

Unreal.


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Re: 35 Billion increase in military spending [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #24131122 - 03/02/17 12:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

There is a difference between making peace and looking the other way for personal favors.

Personal favors by Trump by Russia are suspected.  Trump seems to want to look the other way while Russia does what it wants.

It's called selling out and losing the new cold war.


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Re: 35 Billion increase in military spending [Re: Morel Guy]
    #24131219 - 03/02/17 01:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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There is a difference between making peace and looking the other way for personal favors.

Personal favors by Trump by Russia are suspected.  Trump seems to want to look the other way while Russia does what it wants.

It's called selling out and losing the new cold war.




You're insinuating that Trump is being blackmailed by the Russian government without any evidence, don't you think the US intelligence agencies would know about this IF it were true?  What are they doing about it?

Basically you're full of nonsense as always. :lol:

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Re: 35 Billion increase in military spending [Re: Morel Guy]
    #24131235 - 03/02/17 01:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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There is a difference between making peace and looking the other way for personal favors.



I'm with qman on this.  What personal favors are you talking about?  All that I see Trump doing is building up our military and threatening more sanctions against Russia unless they surrender their only warm water base in Crimea.

Got any real world examples, or am I right about us entering a new McCarthy era?


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Re: 35 Billion increase in military spending [Re: Morel Guy]
    #24131271 - 03/02/17 01:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think we should increase military spending even more. 35 billion is peanuts. Let's go for at least $100 billion, if not $1 trillion. 35 billion is pussy spending.

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Re: 35 Billion increase in military spending [Re: nooneman]
    #24131521 - 03/02/17 03:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

We don't know Trumps investments in Russia.  He seems all cozy with Putin like he's his favorite circle jerk buddy.

I never said blackmail.


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Re: 35 Billion increase in military spending [Re: Morel Guy]
    #24131557 - 03/02/17 03:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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He seems all cozy with Putin like he's his favorite circle jerk buddy.



I can't wait to see your evidence of this...  Teach us something!  :popcorn:


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Re: 35 Billion increase in military spending [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #24131564 - 03/02/17 03:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Ya maybe you can see all the cum stains of their circle jerk.  Something tells me Republicans love denying truths.


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Re: 35 Billion increase in military spending [Re: Morel Guy]
    #24131573 - 03/02/17 03:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Republicans do love denying truths.  And it appears you do too.

So no evidence at all?  Just "The Establishment wants me to repeat this so I am"???

Edit:  Anyone should feel free to help Morel Guy out.  If anyone has evidence that Trump is "cozy with Putin", please share it.  I want to learn something.


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Re: 35 Billion increase in military spending [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #24131583 - 03/02/17 03:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Lol dude defensive of something that has nothing to do with you.

Trump seems to be real harsh on Putin violating a weapons treaty.  Nuclear treaty no less!

Heard something about Trumps son cozyi up biz wise in Russia.


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Re: 35 Billion increase in military spending [Re: Morel Guy]
    #24131606 - 03/02/17 03:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Any specifics?  Or do you just repeat establishment talking points?

I'm just trying to learn something, I'm not trying to win an argument.


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Re: 35 Billion increase in military spending [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #24131614 - 03/02/17 03:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

No you are being defensive like you have personal involvement.

You either don't know how the world works and live in a fantasy world or just plain niave.


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Re: 35 Billion increase in military spending [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #24131622 - 03/02/17 03:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like I'm going to be working hella  overtime in the near future, I can't complain. Build 10 more aircraft carrier's  if you ask me.


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Re: 35 Billion increase in military spending [Re: T-Funkadelic]
    #24131631 - 03/02/17 03:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Investing in war that seems on the board but could change.


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Re: 35 Billion increase in military spending [Re: Morel Guy]
    #24131633 - 03/02/17 03:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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You either don't know how the world works and live in a fantasy world or just plain niave.



I prefer evidence before I believe something.  Does that make me naïve?

You believe anything the establishment tells you to believe.  Does that make you smart about how the world works?

Again, I'm trying to learn something.  Do you have evidence of Trump's coziness with Putin, or don't you?


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Re: 35 Billion increase in military spending [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #24131667 - 03/02/17 04:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Blah blah blah

Is history the establishment?


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Re: 35 Billion increase in military spending [Re: Morel Guy]
    #24131763 - 03/02/17 05:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

No, history is not the establishment.  Maybe you can you point me to a historical article where Trump is cozy with Putin?

Again, I'm not saying you're wrong.  I'm asking you to tell me why you're right.


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Re: 35 Billion increase in military spending [Re: Morel Guy]
    #24131916 - 03/02/17 06:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

But if you have no evidence to support your position, then you're probably wrong.


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Re: 35 Billion increase in military spending [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #24132315 - 03/02/17 09:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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There is a difference between making peace and looking the other way for personal favors.

Personal favors by Trump by Russia are suspected.  Trump seems to want to look the other way while Russia does what it wants.

It's called selling out and losing the new cold war.




You're insinuating that Trump is being blackmailed by the Russian government without any evidence, don't you think the US intelligence agencies would know about this IF it were true?  What are they doing about it?

Basically you're full of nonsense as always. :lol:




Its a very real possibility.

I was listening to the newest Intercept podcast earlier, and they had an ex FBI special agent on and he was talking about how the "compromising intel" angle is one of maybe 5 possibilities. But it is a possibility. It could also be that the Kremlin saw Trump as a useful idiot, or a softer target than Hillary. We might never know the full extent.

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You either don't know how the world works and live in a fantasy world or just plain niave.



I prefer evidence before I believe something.  Does that make me naïve?

You believe anything the establishment tells you to believe.  Does that make you smart about how the world works?

Again, I'm trying to learn something.  Do you have evidence of Trump's coziness with Putin, or don't you?




This is also true. There's been no direct link between Trump and Putin. Now, was Trump more than likely aware that his entire cabinet was having conversations with Russian envoys and ambassadors, at the least? Yeah. But theres been no evidence yet. The calls for Sessions' resignation are indeed with merit, though.


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Re: 35 Billion increase in military spending [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #24132941 - 03/03/17 06:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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But if you have no evidence to support your position, then you're probably wrong.




So illogical.  Lack of evidence shouldn't take away possibility.  In the world of spy verses spy it's good to think of all possibilities.


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