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Moabfighter
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Re: BOD's Easy AF OAT prep tek. [Re: Dakine]
#24262428 - 04/21/17 06:53 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Dakine said: So the oats in my jars after I took them out of the pressure cooker are moist on the inside? I put A piece of cotton in it to? Is that how it's supposed to be? I put a cotton into the hole that I made then put foil on top..
Cotton? What?
You're severely wasting your time with this, at this stage in your experience with the hobby. You're not prepared, yet.
Start over and read closer.
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mynakedrat
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Re: BOD's Easy AF OAT prep tek. [Re: Moabfighter]
#24262440 - 04/21/17 07:02 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Not cotton, polyfill broner
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Dakine
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Re: BOD's Easy AF OAT prep tek. [Re: mynakedrat]
#24262891 - 04/21/17 10:33 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Lol at this stage? I used spore tape on 2 jars and cotton like I've seen others use.. I've seen guys use nothing to clog the hole in the lid. Then they just cover it with foil.. But all 4 jars have moisture in them, so I'm wondering if that's ok.. I've read and watched many different teks.. Nobody talks about moisture content after pressure cooking. They only talk about moisture or the wetness of certain substrates after boiling or something..
Great attitude Moabfighter. Thanks A bunch.
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Moabfighter
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Re: BOD's Easy AF OAT prep tek. [Re: Dakine]
#24262954 - 04/21/17 10:51 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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"At this stage in your experience" as in no experience. You're trying to "clog holes" with "cotton balls"
Also, you've never seen someone who knows how to grow leave the jar lid hole gaped with no filter, unless you're talking PF Tek. Which is far different from Oat grain spawn.
Not sure if you're being a smartass on the last sentence or not, but you just gotta read a whole hell of ALOT more before you're anywhere near ready to be attempting grain spawn.
You won't have some success, you'll have zero success with grains if you're uneducated. No animosity. I grew trich for the past 8 months because I couldn't nail it. It sucks to never get fruits. Do pf Tek for six months and learn a little about the life cycle and read read read.
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Germs
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Re: BOD's Easy AF OAT prep tek. [Re: Moabfighter]
#24262968 - 04/21/17 10:55 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Dakine
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Re: BOD's Easy AF OAT prep tek. [Re: Germs]
#24263266 - 04/22/17 02:26 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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MoabFighter. That last sentence was not me being A smartass. ITs how I truly felt you where acting. Im A very experienced grower in other things, and wanted to try something new. Your attitude towards my problems and inexperience in cultivating shrooms ate at me the wrong way.
I've read Bodhis list of teks/methods multiple times. I wanted to give it A go since many of the ingredients are easy to obtain or are things I already had. Instead of telling me to just quit, and start over. Why not try and help me figure out what exactly im doing wrong.
If you do A search, not just on this forum. There are many different growers that I've seen use that spore tape,and cotton to plug the main hole.. Even when some are using Vermiculite and Brown Rice flower, they use nothing to cover the hole in the lid. They just place 2 layers of tin foil on top, and 1 lose piece of foil. Some dont even use A lid, and just use the tin foil.
Maybe I might not run into the same problem again, if I figure out what exactly im doing wrong.. But if I where to start over, I would do exactly as I did the first time to be completely honest. The reason I used spore tape on 2 jars, and cotton to plug the hole in the lid on 2 other jars. Was to try and maximize my chances of success.
I wasnt sure which method would work, and if I would be able to get either of them to work. But that is why I have been trying to ask questions, and even created A thread to get some help.
Im not trying to make this personal with you at all bro. But if your knowledgeable in the cultivation of shrooms, I would greatly appreciate it if you could help me and others like me. Instead of making me feel like Im being shut down and not wanted here.
Danky
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CapnZ
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Re: BOD's Easy AF OAT prep tek. [Re: hamloaf]
#24263407 - 04/22/17 05:46 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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hamloaf said: Those are definitely whole oats. Looks to me like they were either loaded into the jars too wet before sterilization, or water from the pressure cooker somehow made it's way into the jars during the sterilization cycle.
Either way, those are too wet for mushroom mycelium to comfortably colonize, so generating a new batch of whole oats will be required.
 I have made 4 batches of jars using this tek and all have come out perfectly. But like Bod says you need to forget them for a while after dumping them in the strainer. I let mine sit at least 2 hours before loading jars. Those look overlooked and way too wet when they got,loaded. My cook time seems to be right at 35 minutes. I eat them too for,testing, when they are soft but not squishy I drain em.
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ichugwindex
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Re: BOD's Easy AF OAT prep tek. [Re: Dakine]
#24263435 - 04/22/17 06:36 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you start doing grains without a filter youre going to have a bad time. Its micro PORE tape not spore. And i could see why you might think the POLYFILL in some peoples jars etc might LOOK like cotton but it shouldnt be cotton in there.
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CapnZ
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Re: BOD's Easy AF OAT prep tek. [Re: ichugwindex]
#24263490 - 04/22/17 07:31 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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ichugwindex said: If you start doing grains without a filter youre going to have a bad time. Its micro PORE tape not spore. And i could see why you might think the POLYFILL in some peoples jars etc might LOOK like cotton but it shouldnt be cotton in there.
Just make it easy and use SFDs. I'm all for DIY, but some shit I'd rather buy. IMO it's just easier and more secure.
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Elegua
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Re: BOD's Easy AF OAT prep tek. [Re: CapnZ]
#24263895 - 04/22/17 11:53 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Really loving the oats. Right now I'm experimenting with oats for grain LC, g2g transfers, and multispore injections in both jars and bags, and everything seems to be going excellently. It's really easy to get the right water balance on this stuff (for me at least), colonization times seem excellent, and the stuff is pretty much as cheap as WBS around here. Thanks for the tek!
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CapnZ
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Re: BOD's Easy AF OAT prep tek. [Re: Elegua]
#24263927 - 04/22/17 12:08 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Elegua said: Really loving the oats. Right now I'm experimenting with oats for grain LC, g2g transfers, and multispore injections in both jars and bags, and everything seems to be going excellently. It's really easy to get the right water balance on this stuff (for me at least), colonization times seem excellent, and the stuff is pretty much as cheap as WBS around here. Thanks for the tek!
Yeah man my oat jars are kicking ass. And at $13 for a 50 lb bag can't beat it!
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Dakine
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Re: BOD's Easy AF OAT prep tek. [Re: CapnZ]
#24265185 - 04/22/17 10:20 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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So after talking to some people on here, they think the oats werent dry enough even though I spread everything out on some paper towels..
Also is it bad if I see a lot of oats that are opened? I think I might've let em boil for A couple minutes to much.. I'm gonna just try again now that I know what the actual problems are..
I also bought some vermiculite and brown rice flour since I was at the health food market.
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Dakine
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Re: BOD's Easy AF OAT prep tek. [Re: Dakine]
#24265396 - 04/23/17 01:37 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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So I decided to grab some Pore Tape. This is the one I picked up.. They had A much bigger and wider roll, but I thought this one would be sufficient enough for my needs.


I also rewatched the youtube videos, and im now 100% sure some guys used cotton. They also used pillow stuffing lol.
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mushroom_therapy
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Re: BOD's Easy AF OAT prep tek. [Re: Dakine]
#24265653 - 04/23/17 06:36 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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That's not micropore tape FYI. And yes most recommend pillow stuffing. Pillow stuffing is what they are referring to as "polyfill". If your using pf tek I would recommend not covering the holes. I did a test last week and inoculated 10 jars. 5 with holes covered and 5 with no holes covered. The 5 with no holes covered are fully clonized after 7 days and the 5 with holes covered were only 1/4th colonized.
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frankie-smiles
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No one used cotton dude. Polyfil isn't cotton - its polyfil. This guy is trolling right?
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bodhisatta 
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you absolutely can use cotton, it was used for ages before all this synthetic stuff. I just strongly suggest no one uses cotton. or if you do replace it every time.
PTFE SFD > cellulose SFD > polyfil > Kite Tyvek > postal Tyvek > a few layers of micropore tape > cotton.
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mushboy
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mushroom_therapy said: That's not micropore tape FYI.
even tho that gigantic pic says 3m micropore surgical tape? i use that same shit. just in the thicker roll.
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mushroom_therapy
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Re: BOD's Easy AF OAT prep tek. [Re: mushboy]
#24267398 - 04/23/17 10:24 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hahah I'm sorry. I'll stop giving advice until I can actually consistently fruit some beautiful fungi. All i saw was "gentle paper tape". Thanks for the correction.
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Dakine
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I don't understand why you would think I'm trolling.. if you clearly do some research and watch some videos on YouTube, there's multiple people that use cotton and micro pore tape to show that it is something you can use but nowadays it's not recommended Frankie-Smiles
Oh and mushroom therapy, why isn't the tape I pictured the correct one? Did I seriously get the wrong tape? I thought it was the right one since it says it's 3m Micro Pore Surgical tape..
I'm getting so confused now because of all the different advice that's being given to me.. I only got the tape for the oats.. the cakes I'm gonna try and make, I thought the tape wasn't needed?
Bodhi I was also wondering if it would be ok to use the jars of oats that I pressurized 36hours ago.. I was trying to see if there was any contaminants like how some people leave there verm and brown rice flour jars after pressurizing for A couple days, and also ito see if it was moist still.. but I just looked at the jars, I also never removed the foils on top the lids.. The jars look perfectly fine, and if I tilt them down and up the wheat move freely..
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mushroom_therapy
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Re: BOD's Easy AF OAT prep tek. [Re: Dakine]
#24267925 - 04/24/17 06:34 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's micropore tape. Your better off disregarding my comment and taking bods advice. Good luck! (Sorry for the confusion)
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