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Re: Donald Trump is an excellent president (his proponents are religious nutjobs, and zealots, however) [Re: The Ecstatic]
#24140862 - 03/06/17 10:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Paid leave or child care plan only applies to married birth mothers. So...fail.
Not familiar with his actions on STEM. But his Congress is trying to repeal Obama's workplace equality actions. So...fail.
He only denounced anti semitism because he was forced to. During the campaign he refused to deny avid racists, and even put some in his cabinet (like Sessions, who loved the KKK until he found out they tolerate marijuana). So....fail.
He and Republicans are at the very least ignoring the trans issues, if not outright trying to repeal the minute progress made. So....fail.
This is what happens when you elect a Republican. Hes too proud to disagree with Congress' actions because he doesnt want his approval rating to further plummet, and Congress couldnt give a shit about how unpopular these bills theyre trying to shove through are, bc everyone is focused on Trump.
Do you think the GOP would be pulling this shit under Hillary? Corporatist warhawk as she is...fuck no.
Oh my god, someone is ignoring the "trans issues", the world is ending!!
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Re: Donald Trump is an excellent president (his proponents are religious nutjobs, and zealots, however) [Re: Patlal] 1
#24140898 - 03/06/17 10:51 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Patlal thinks trump is protecting gay people by not undoing current regulations. You're essentially giving him credit for Obamas policies simply because he didn't undo them.
Wow speaking out against anti-semetism. What a brave man. It only took a week of criticism after his totally disgusting treatment of reporter who asked him about a rise in anti-Semitic crimes at has press conference
Stem? Idk what law was that? The only Legislation hes signed has been ones rolling back environmental regulations. Pretty much just undoing previous laws.
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Re: Donald Trump is an excellent president (his proponents are religious nutjobs, and zealots, however) [Re: qman] 1
#24140963 - 03/06/17 11:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Paid leave or child care plan only applies to married birth mothers. So...fail.
Not familiar with his actions on STEM. But his Congress is trying to repeal Obama's workplace equality actions. So...fail.
He only denounced anti semitism because he was forced to. During the campaign he refused to deny avid racists, and even put some in his cabinet (like Sessions, who loved the KKK until he found out they tolerate marijuana). So....fail.
He and Republicans are at the very least ignoring the trans issues, if not outright trying to repeal the minute progress made. So....fail.
This is what happens when you elect a Republican. Hes too proud to disagree with Congress' actions because he doesnt want his approval rating to further plummet, and Congress couldnt give a shit about how unpopular these bills theyre trying to shove through are, bc everyone is focused on Trump.
Do you think the GOP would be pulling this shit under Hillary? Corporatist warhawk as she is...fuck no.
Oh my god, someone is ignoring the "trans issues", the world is ending!!

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Re: Donald Trump is an excellent president (his proponents are religious nutjobs, and zealots, however) [Re: koods]
#24140982 - 03/06/17 11:28 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Patlal thinks trump is protecting gay people by not undoing current regulations. You're essentially giving him credit for Obamas policies simply because he didn't undo them.
Wow speaking out against anti-semetism. What a brave man. It only took a week of criticism after his totally disgusting treatment of reporter who asked him about a rise in anti-Semitic crimes at has press conference
Stem? Idk what law was that? The only Legislation hes signed has been ones rolling back environmental regulations. Pretty much just undoing previous laws.
"rise in anti-Semitic crimes"
Jews have been attacked?
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Re: Donald Trump is an Fucking Idiot and his proponents are religious nutjobs and zealots, QFT [Re: Webster10] 1
#24140989 - 03/06/17 11:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Donald Trump is an Fucking Idiot and his proponents are religious nutjobs and zealots, QFT [Re: vinsue]
#24141013 - 03/06/17 11:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm pretty sure that Donald Trump has never declared bankruptcy.
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Re: Donald Trump is an Fucking Idiot and his proponents are religious nutjobs and zealots, QFT [Re: Enlil] 1
#24141117 - 03/06/17 12:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Financial or moral?
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Re: Donald Trump is an Fucking Idiot and his proponents are religious nutjobs and zealots, QFT [Re: vinsue]
#24141120 - 03/06/17 12:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The dudes a multi billionaire. If that ain't winning, what is?
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Re: Donald Trump is an Fucking Idiot and his proponents are religious nutjobs and zealots, QFT [Re: Bubbles85]
#24141126 - 03/06/17 12:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I guess a billionaire, since you had to specify he has more than one.
But does he even? We dont know because hes too chicken shit to release his tax returns.
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Re: Donald Trump is an Fucking Idiot and his proponents are religious nutjobs and zealots, QFT [Re: The Ecstatic]
#24141132 - 03/06/17 12:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Donald Trump is an Fucking Idiot and his proponents are religious nutjobs and zealots, QFT [Re: Enlil] 1
#24141242 - 03/06/17 01:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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RE: wiretapping. everyone here does know that many to most russian gov't employees of interest are being electronically monitored when in the US (and abroad when we know they're meeting with any US citizens and/or when we're capable), right? right??
thus, when a media entity reports that 'we have anonymous sources telling us that such-and-such information was gleaned through wiretaps of conversations between Mr. Green and Mr. Yellownovski' it doesn't even come close to necessarily meaning that the trump campaign was wiretapped anywhere in the united states, much less in trump tower.
levin and others took the 'information learned through electronic monitoring of conversations' and twisted that to mean that the obama administration had definitely ordered electronic monitoring of the trump campaign...and those who traffic in conspiracy theory when it's convenient for them to do so took that BS and ran with it while saying 'The NY Times even said so!1!!1!'.
aside: a russian national who works at one of their embassy properties wanted to come see my business partner and i on a saturday last year; we know him through our work at a few of their DC properties. he had to go get a burner phone to call us because "all of our phones are being monitored at all times by both the russian and US govts". he was careful not to call any other phone number first because if his call went to a monitored phone, then the burner phone he picked up would've been instantly compromised. that is, at least, what all of the russian nationals working in the US are trained to believe and it makes a lot more sense than the previous US admin wiretapping phones in trump tower or phones belonging to trump campaign personnel.
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Re: Donald Trump is an Fucking Idiot and his proponents are religious nutjobs and zealots, QFT [Re: vinsue] 1
#24141289 - 03/06/17 01:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Webster10 said: Probably because there's nothing in his tax returns that is damaging to him.
Where'd you hear that?
Probably?
You blindly trust everything he says? Just believe him because "Donny wouldn't lie to us, he's such an honest man."
I heard that Trump probably takes Russian cock in his ass.
 I missed his morning tweetymelts this morning, that shit is hilarious and makes my day.
I hope he cuts one out soon, I need some lols.
This should do until then.
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I've never heard anyone say that investing with, partnering with, working for or paying for Trump's advice has ever made them rich. Most billionaires leave a wake of enriched people behind them. Secretaries and janitors who worked for bill gates and Microsoft are millionaires now. Same with Steve jobs. Warren buffet has made tens of thousand of people rich simply by investing in his companies. Nobody except Donald trump and his family ever comes out ahead when they get financially involved in his businesses. He's a total parasite.
If you invested $1000 in Microsoft or Apple or Berkshire or most other publicly traded companies started by the country's billionaires, you would be a millionaire many times over yourself. If you invested in Trump Enterprises when it went public, you are now the proud owner of a worthless stock certificate.
Trump never declared personal bankruptcy. He just sucks all the value out of his partnerships and his one publicly traded company until they are worthless and then sticks his partners, creditors and investors with the bill. He's a repugnant, evil leech on society.
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Re: Donald Trump is an excellent president (his proponents are religious nutjobs, and zealots, however) [Re: Webster10] 2
#24141539 - 03/06/17 03:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enlil said: So, you have no reason to believe it other than the fact that you want it to be true.
False. I believe it because it was well within their capabilities and it's plausible that the obama administration would do.
It's well within Trump's capacity to declassify any evidence that wiretaps were in place at Trump towers. In fact, when the press says there's no evidence, they are saying why don't you give us some, because you are the person that can. But he hasn't yet. And I'm guessing he won't.
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Re: Donald Trump is an excellent president (his proponents are religious nutjobs, and zealots, however) [Re: falcon]
#24141552 - 03/06/17 03:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enlil said: So, you have no reason to believe it other than the fact that you want it to be true.
False. I believe it because it was well within their capabilities and it's plausible that the obama administration would do.
It's well within Trump's capacity to declassify any evidence that wiretaps were in place at Trump towers. In fact, when the press says there's no evidence, they are saying why don't you give us some, because you are the person that can. But he hasn't yet. And I'm guessing he won't.
You're assuming the intelligence agencies would act with enough of integrity to give "any evidence".
"because you are the person that can"
In theory that's true, but sometimes the real world doesn't work that way.
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Re: Donald Trump is an excellent president (his proponents are religious nutjobs, and zealots, however) [Re: qman] 2
#24141568 - 03/06/17 03:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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He has more resources than anyone in the real world to verify that shit, making this kind of accusation without something substantial to point to is weak.
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Re: Donald Trump is an excellent president (his proponents are religious nutjobs, and zealots, however) [Re: qman] 3
#24141569 - 03/06/17 03:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enlil said: So, you have no reason to believe it other than the fact that you want it to be true.
False. I believe it because it was well within their capabilities and it's plausible that the obama administration would do.
It's well within Trump's capacity to declassify any evidence that wiretaps were in place at Trump towers. In fact, when the press says there's no evidence, they are saying why don't you give us some, because you are the person that can. But he hasn't yet. And I'm guessing he won't.
You're assuming the intelligence agencies would act with enough of integrity to give "any evidence".
"because you are the person that can"
In theory that's true, but sometimes the real world doesn't work that way.
Well, if they are hiding the evidence from him then he hasn't seen any evidence 
All he needs to do is show us the evidence he's basing his claims upon. Instead he wants an investigation into his claims. Why does he need an investigation if he already has proof. Come on, we all know he's full of shit. Even Webster knows he's lying, he's just too invested in this trainwreck to save himself.
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Re: Donald Trump is an excellent president (his proponents are religious nutjobs, and zealots, however) [Re: akira_akuma]
#24141576 - 03/06/17 03:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Trump has done a pretty good job so far. I mean, what exactly has he done? Remind me again, what major great piece of legislation has he enacted? What great, amazing political things has he done so far?
Okay, he signed an executive order to limit refugees from some countries. This affects like less than 20,000 people which is nothing compared to the population of the US.
And he has eliminated some regulation from some industries that were extremely over regulated. Oh no.
And he has eliminated special fast track approval of H1B immigrant visas, but left the rest of the program in place. Oh the horror!
He has proposed spending more on the military and on missile defense and offense, which I frankly think would be a great idea.
He keeps talking about that wall, but you and I both know that he'll never have the money to build it because the other branches of government are never going to agree to build it. The same thing that happened to Obama will happen to him: the democrats will stonewall and prevent him from passing any major legislation during his terms. In order to get around that, he'll have to compromise (which is a good thing) if he wants to get anything serious accomplished.
He'll probably succeed in overhauling Obamacare, but that's actually good because obamacare is broken as fuck and doesn't work.
He might do a preemptive strike on North Korea which would be completely awesome and I'd support that all the way.
Oh, and he removed bathroom protection in schools for transgender students. This is not cool, but he didn't go as far as requiring states to enforce gender specific bathrooms. He has been a consistent supporter of state's rights on this and other issues. This bodes well for issues like drug law reform. Sessions may be a firebrand against drugs, but Trump clearly is not, AND he's a supporter of state's rights.
Overall, Trump has done a damn fine job so far. I hope he keeps up the good work.
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Re: Donald Trump is an excellent president (his proponents are religious nutjobs, and zealots, however) [Re: falcon]
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falcon said: He has more resources than anyone in the real world to verify that shit, making this kind of accusation without something substantial to point to is weak.
I agree, but he might not have the resources we think it has, that's where the conflict might really be in this case.
The US President might have to call out the very government he represents.
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Re: Donald Trump is an excellent president (his proponents are religious nutjobs, and zealots, however) [Re: koods]
#24141621 - 03/06/17 03:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enlil said: So, you have no reason to believe it other than the fact that you want it to be true.
False. I believe it because it was well within their capabilities and it's plausible that the obama administration would do.
It's well within Trump's capacity to declassify any evidence that wiretaps were in place at Trump towers. In fact, when the press says there's no evidence, they are saying why don't you give us some, because you are the person that can. But he hasn't yet. And I'm guessing he won't.
You're assuming the intelligence agencies would act with enough of integrity to give "any evidence".
"because you are the person that can"
In theory that's true, but sometimes the real world doesn't work that way.
Well, if they are hiding the evidence from him then he hasn't seen any evidence 
All he needs to do is show us the evidence he's basing his claims upon. Instead he wants an investigation into his claims. Why does he need an investigation if he already has proof. Come on, we all know he's full of shit. Even Webster knows he's lying, he's just too invested in this trainwreck to save himself.
I agree, he needs to put up or shut up sooner rather than later.
But you might want to ask yourself, what are the ramifications if we find out certain individuals in the government are not acting within the law in this case?
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Re: Donald Trump is an excellent president (his proponents are religious nutjobs, and zealots, however) [Re: qman] 2
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Juat found out. Well, all he needs to do is show us what he saw to convince him that it happened. It's really simple.
Who says they wouldn't be acting within the law. Obama could have ordered a wiretap through perfectly legal means. again, we already know this is bullshit.
Also, he doesn't have any idea what McCarthyism is.
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