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Can you use diabetic needles to make spore syringe?
    #2411710 - 03/09/04 07:15 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Can you use diabetic needles to make spore syringe? In more detail: The syringes are all pre-sterilized, 30cc, but the needle itself is alot smaller than a normal needle which you get when you purchase spores. Gracias.


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Re: Can you use diabetic needles to make spore syringe? [Re: Nickster_154371]
    #2411763 - 03/09/04 07:44 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

better to get an 18gauge at least. otherwise any clumps will be avoided.
the tiny bore needle might work, but they'd have to be in a homogenised suspension.


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Re: Can you use diabetic needles to make spore syringe? [Re: shirley knott]
    #2411771 - 03/09/04 07:47 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the reply. But what do you mean by "clumps" and "homogenised suspension?" I remember someone mentionining "griding" the tip of the needle a while back...is this necessary?


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Re: Can you use diabetic needles to make spore syringe? [Re: Nickster_154371]
    #2411801 - 03/09/04 07:54 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

spores clump because the spores actually germinate in the syringe and bind themsleves togehte with microscopic mycelium. clumps are visible to the naked eye. spores, OTOH, are not. i didn't quite grasp the concept of "homogenised solution" but basically the clump size needs to be minimised for the spores to pass through such a small needle. one very effective method is to use dishwashing rinse aid which is a "wetting agent" or "dsipersing agent". you want to use one that has no additional chems like scents or especially alcohol. the wetting agent will prevent the spores from clumping and actually disperse the spores to the point that they are invisible to the naked eye.

when spores clog a syringe it is a real PITA. you'll know it cause the plunger just stops and then 1 of 2 things happens.

1) the clog gives away suddenly and you end up spewing way too much soultion into whatever your knocking up

2) you have to withdraw the plunger which pulls in likely contaminated air.. even then sometimes you can't pull the plunger back because, well, it's clogged... needless to say it is rather frustrating.

clogs occur even in larger guage needles so i can only imagine that they really are a headache for itty bitty needles like the ones your talking about using.


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Re: Can you use diabetic needles to make spore syringe? [Re: debianlinux]
    #2411804 - 03/09/04 07:55 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

oh, yeah... just the tiniest amount of dispersing agent is necessary to be effective. i've used one single drop to 200ml of solution.


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Re: Can you use diabetic needles to make spore syringe? [Re: Nickster_154371]
    #2411806 - 03/09/04 07:55 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

clumps of spores. as opposed to a suspension of all single spores without lumps. they're very tiny purple things (ps cubensis are anyway)

grinding a needle blunts it. you don't need to do that.


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Re: Can you use diabetic needles to make spore syringe? [Re: Nickster_154371]
    #2411967 - 03/09/04 08:43 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

NO  :nonono: Needle is way to small , spores will get stuck in it , and most likely plug it up .


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Re: Can you use diabetic needles to make spore syringe? [Re: Nickster_154371]
    #2412452 - 03/09/04 10:32 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Syringes for insulin are not 30cc that much insulin would kill a horse. the syringes are 3cc. and the needles are way too small. many of the sponsors here will sell you syringes, and needles for about $1 each, in lots of 10 or 12.


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Re: Can you use diabetic needles to make spore syringe? [Re: JuanMatus]
    #2412485 - 03/09/04 10:39 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Yea, my bad about 30cc, im sure my friend meant to type 3cc.


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Re: Can you use diabetic needles to make spore syringe? [Re: debianlinux]
    #2412499 - 03/09/04 10:43 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

debianlinux in your above post you said not to use alchohol...what about using it like this... Your about to innoc some of your jars, you flame sterilize the tip of the needle, then to cool it down you dip it some common rubbing alchohol, then you shake it for a few seconds to completely cool it off, then you inject. Does that sound like it might kill the spores upon injection?? Cause if so then i think i can tell my friend why none of his jars have been showing signs of colonization the past couple weeks


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Re: Can you use diabetic needles to make spore syringe? [Re: Nickster_154371]
    #2412601 - 03/09/04 11:09 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

no. the problem is introducing alcohol into the spore solution... as in using an additive containing alcohol. the amount of alcohol on the outside of a needle post-wiping is neglible and is quickly evaporating.

my procedure is to falme sterilize and then wipe the soot off with an alcohol soaked paper towel (too cool) and i've never had a problem... ever.


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    #2412951 - 03/10/04 12:40 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

i cant get decent needles over here so i use the 1cc insulin syringes. the needle is about 1cm long but it works fine for me


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