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Re: I reject mental illness..... [Re: hidenseek] * 1
    #15999175 - 03/26/12 02:45 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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yes , but never to the degree that it exsists today, is almost half of the world crazy at any given time period? or is it just just america today?






There are no reliable statistics re: mental illness prior to psychiatry.

IMO, the prevalence of mental illness in American society isn't thanks to psychiatry, it's thanks to the downright Babylonian scale of pure evil embedded in our culture and conditioning.


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Re: I reject mental illness..... [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 2
    #15999329 - 03/26/12 03:11 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

there's such thing as mental illness, but to say it's all biological is a load of shit.

your brain is constantly being changed by every thought you have, memory you have, and in response to everything in the environment. this is why therapy can be so beneficial.

also even if you are genetically disposed to having something, again, your genes are constantly being turned on and off in response to the environment.

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There is even an antidepressant that brings the level of serotonin down instead of pushing it up.

All these drugs have the same effect. No matter what they do - or don't do - to serotonin, about 60 per cent of patients get better.




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1299791/Why-antidepressants-simply-confidence-trick-A-leading-psychologist-claims-taking-sugar-pills-work-just-well.html#ixzz1qG9U9pgl


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Re: I reject mental illness..... [Re: bigmike7104] * 1
    #15999354 - 03/26/12 03:17 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Demons run rampant among Americans. :shrug:


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Re: I reject mental illness..... [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #15999516 - 03/26/12 03:58 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

demons eh? so whats the cure


:epileptic:  :shineon:


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Re: I reject mental illness..... [Re: hidenseek]
    #15999533 - 03/26/12 04:00 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I don't know. I have a lot of theories, some of them more popular than others. I would say "Christian love" if not for the fact that that cure is worse than the disease in this country.

That said, I suspect we give neurotransmitters too much credit for the propagation of demons.


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Re: I reject mental illness..... [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #16009111 - 03/28/12 02:15 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

For once I agree with wild child.


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Re: I reject mental illness..... [Re: hidenseek]
    #16009143 - 03/28/12 02:19 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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demons eh? so whats the cure



Time.


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Re: I reject mental illness..... [Re: Almond Flour] * 7
    #16009261 - 03/28/12 02:43 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

No offense Milk, but you're an uninformed idiot.


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Re: I reject mental illness..... [Re: Le_Canard] * 2
    #16009419 - 03/28/12 03:22 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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No offense Milk, but you're an uninformed idiot.





No offense? :lol: how can one NOT help but take offense with a comment like that :bored:


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Re: I reject mental illness..... [Re: Almond Flour] * 1
    #16009605 - 03/28/12 04:07 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Real CA Milk said:
Kind of my play on "Bipolar disorder is a myth" thread, I have now reached the conclusion that ALL mental illness......is a lie  :noyoudidawet:





NO! Only the cake is a lie! D<

Anyways, in all seriousness, mental illness is a very real thing. Are things like bipolar or ADHD misdiagnosed or over diagnosed? Absolutely. Is it because big pharma wants to make big bucks? Of course!
That does not mean somebody with a serious real problem doesn't deserve some sort of treatment. Environmental factors are a HUGE part of things manifesting themselves, especially if you have a hereditary risk of such things occurring.
As for your examples, I read the first one before I gave up. That girl was clearly suffering from PTSD, and it had gotten really bad, OR she had some sort of suppressed memories that evolved over time, influenced by environmental factors etc.

Point is, psychology, even understanding the human brain and all the chemicals that work together to even just create emotional reactions and our personalities and preferences etc, is not easy to understand. Therefor, it's not like you can just go around saying "this doesn't exist" when there is legitimate medical proof that mentally things occur in people and while some of them aren't as serious as the others or are just doing it for attention (that in itself is a whole other ball game), that doesn't mean people don't have problems. There is a difference between a mental illness, and life problems.

Personally, I was diagnosed with bipolar, and while yes I feel mood swingy sometimes, it's clear to me that it's not something I really need to worry about. I've had major depression, that was largely influenced by environmental factors, and with time and not always medication, I got better. Am I better because of medication? Absolutely not. The main part of treating a mental illness is therapy. DBT and other types of therapy are essential parts of a person's treatment.

I wish they would teach the things I've learned in therapy, like assertiveness skills etc, in health class at school. Maybe we all wouldn't be at such a risk for such things occuring if we did't go around being fucktards about how we communicate and act. We can definitely improve our mental well being by keeping ourselves in good health, having open and honest communication in the relationships we chose to have, and staying grounded. Meditation, yoga, and basic therapy are all great things to help destress. Keeping a journal is a great way to not have to go to a therapist.

*psychology major*
:nofuckyouthough:

And yes. Big pharma sucks. I have lyme disease and they don't always approve my medication refills. So trust me, I'm not arguing in their favor. XD;


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Re: I reject mental illness..... [Re: xkacellax]
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