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No Pour Plates Ziran Style 7
#24109801 - 02/21/17 11:48 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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No Pour Plates Ziran Style
This is a simple a straight up way to make no pour plates. Using something very similar to pasty plates.
No drills no micropore tape. All you need is the containers, agar, potato flakes, some honey, sugar or karo.
Using munches recipe here --> Munches' Agar Recipe <----
I simply pour my agar into these ziplock round containers. Also found some neat ones that are about as big as the 4oz jelly jars. 

Then after the pour is complete, simply screw the lids on tight, and do about a 1/4 to a half of a turn to loosen it up. It shouldn't come off but will be on tight enough not to melt the plastic. Just like in the gif below.

After this is complete, cover the lids in tinfoil like so

and into the pc they go for 30 minutes at 15 psi.


If you don't foil them this will happen
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Ziran said:

Without the foil on them it seems that there is some standing water on the agar surface.
The plates I made this way were no good. they developed a funky smell to them after sitting with nothing in them. No good doing it this way.
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Ziran said: Those ones got a funky smell after about a week. XD Also ruined two cultures.
After a few transfers, you'll end up with plates like this. 
1st Transfer


Made 2nd Transfer

Made 3rd Transfer

And some expansion.

And here are some clean and ready to use cultures!
 
I have found so far that with the bigger containers it is easier to start a culture/clone in the big containers and transfer to smaller containers like so. This plate is from my BFM clone I started. It is just so much easier to transfer away from contamns as there is so much more surface area compared to the small 4 oz jelly jars.

And the new plates!

3rd transfer plates

A king oyster master in my newer plates 
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Edited by Ziran (02/10/18 10:44 PM)
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Ziran]
#24109811 - 02/21/17 11:52 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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killer gif. helps us visual learners.
slick write up homie.
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: mushboy]
#24109822 - 02/22/17 12:02 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nice write up
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: tump]
#24109927 - 02/22/17 02:30 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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What kinda Reishi culture is that? Mine look way different. But looks good. 
I use 100 mL sauce containers I got off eBay. 100 for 10 pounds.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/381665789893?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&var=650734005223&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Drill a hole in the top, put two layers of MP, forego the foil in the PC. Works great. I have so much faith in MP, if it works on agar plates, why wouldn't it work for grain? I like being able to reuse, petris go in the bin.
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Tiamo]
#24110076 - 02/22/17 05:56 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: catnip40]
#24110190 - 02/22/17 07:11 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nam sayin!
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Kenetic]
#24110363 - 02/22/17 08:49 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nice tek, gif is broken for me though
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Tiamo]
#24111243 - 02/22/17 03:08 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Tiamo said: What kinda Reishi culture is that? Mine look way different. But looks good. 
I use 100 mL sauce containers I got off eBay. 100 for 10 pounds.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/381665789893?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&var=650734005223&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Drill a hole in the top, put two layers of MP, forego the foil in the PC. Works great. I have so much faith in MP, if it works on agar plates, why wouldn't it work for grain? I like being able to reuse, petris go in the bin. 
Its ganoderma lucidum - Ling Zi - Lot number 3-P7 according to the LC syringe I have. And I like these. Super sturdy. I just reuse my foil wraps as much as I can :P Also did some more expansion today. Up from 2 plates to 7 lolz
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lovelaughlibs said: Nice tek, gif is broken for me though 
Means your internet connection is too slow
Edit: I take that back, same thing on my computer. Just not my phone
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Kenetic]
#24111496 - 02/22/17 05:20 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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I like the idea of the screw on top. I am too invested in pasty plates at the moment however...
Pasty plates ftw right now.
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Fick_Duck]
#24111516 - 02/22/17 05:33 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nice! No issues with condensation?
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: PaulWall]
#24111854 - 02/22/17 07:26 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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wouldn't be able to see it anyway lol.
I'm glad you had the balls to try using an unmodded lid cause it obviously works, just don't let pasty see this thread though lol. Actually I'm sure he would be glad to see some more progression in this hobby.
See folks, agar is super easy. Quit being a bitch (so you can have an all clone grow like this
I personally think that no pour plates don't even need a filter because there is already so much air in the container. You could probably screw the lid tight for the short term.
If I wasn't stuck on petris I'd try this for sure. Who knows, I might be find a reason to try them. Not practical right now cause no pour plates take up so much room. That in itself would piss me off.
Definitely keep updating this shit dude.
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: PaulWall]
#24112040 - 02/22/17 08:58 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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PaulWall said: Nice! No issues with condensation?
It condensates. But I haven't noticed any issues with condensation. Usually after a week or so it begins to go away. although, I use them before that's even relevant. The doc_T plates however have zero condensation.
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Kenetic]
#24112157 - 02/22/17 09:47 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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kenetic said: I personally think that no pour plates don't even need a filter because there is already so much air in the container. You could probably screw the lid tight for the short term.
If I remember right pasty said the reason there's a hole on the nopours isn't for GE, it's to stop them being crushed in the PC.
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Tis why I twist them slighty in order to prevent them from melting.
Very similar to pasty's ez lid tek.
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lovelaughlibs said:
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kenetic said: I personally think that no pour plates don't even need a filter because there is already so much air in the container. You could probably screw the lid tight for the short term.
If I remember right pasty said the reason there's a hole on the nopours isn't for GE, it's to stop them being crushed in the PC.
Shit.
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Moabfighter]
#24112291 - 02/22/17 10:54 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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I been doing this with widemouth 1/2 pints and plastic lids. Worked great for me.
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Tiamo]
#24112516 - 02/23/17 02:08 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Tiamo said: What kinda Reishi culture is that? Mine look way different. But looks good. 
I use 100 mL sauce containers I got off eBay. 100 for 10 pounds.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/381665789893?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&var=650734005223&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Drill a hole in the top, put two layers of MP, forego the foil in the PC. Works great. I have so much faith in MP, if it works on agar plates, why wouldn't it work for grain? I like being able to reuse, petris go in the bin. 
That seems like a really good deal. And they work well for Agar for you? So you just put on two layers of Micro Pore Tape, over a hole you drilled for Gas Exchange? And when you inoculate them, just opening the lid in a SAB?
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Ziran]
#24113487 - 02/23/17 12:52 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Updated the gif to correct the issue. Hopefully it works for you guys.
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Ziran]
#24113945 - 02/23/17 04:51 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ziran said: Updated the gif to correct the issue. Hopefully it works for you guys.
Fixed it for me
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same. just out of curiosity, what did you do to it?
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Yes sir, that's all there is to it.
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Kenetic] 1
#24114015 - 02/23/17 05:17 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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kenetic said: same. just out of curiosity, what did you do to it?
Looks like the gif is now hosted on imgur rather than gyfcat!
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Violet posted about using these containers as Agar dishes quite a while ago:
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CONTAINER AGAR DISHES These screw-top containers are recycling code 5 which holds up perfectly under hi-pressure temperature (as long as the cooker doesn't run out of water) Requiring no modification, they are sterilized with the lids slightly cracked loose. Do not attempt to sterilize them while sealed!
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19035259
I don't recommend her microwave method though.
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: senseit]
#24114686 - 02/23/17 09:23 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Also, I used these without the tinfoil. I don't think you need it.
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Kenetic]
#24115086 - 02/24/17 01:02 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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kenetic said: same. just out of curiosity, what did you do to it?
From fully screwed on, just slightly unscrewed it a tad. So it won't melt during the PC
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Ziran]
#24115284 - 02/24/17 05:11 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ha I meant the gif
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: senseit]
#24115527 - 02/24/17 08:38 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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lovelaughlibs said:
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kenetic said: same. just out of curiosity, what did you do to it?
Looks like the gif is now hosted on imgur rather than gyfcat!
This! lol
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senseit said: Violet posted about using these containers as Agar dishes quite a while ago:
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CONTAINER AGAR DISHES These screw-top containers are recycling code 5 which holds up perfectly under hi-pressure temperature (as long as the cooker doesn't run out of water) Requiring no modification, they are sterilized with the lids slightly cracked loose. Do not attempt to sterilize them while sealed!
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19035259
I don't recommend her microwave method though.
Nice. Gonna try that with the next batch. Will update photos if it works well!
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Ziran]
#24117726 - 02/25/17 01:04 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Trying some PCed Plates without foil. If they work well I will update the tek  Even trying a Doc_T plate without foil as well.
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Ziran]
#24119231 - 02/25/17 04:33 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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These containers from big lots right fantastic to you get three for $1.80 just don't lock them before your PC or put a tiny hole with micropore tape on top
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: 99.99] 1
#24119257 - 02/25/17 04:47 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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interesting. The idea is that I dont need to use any tape or drills
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Ziran]
#24119391 - 02/25/17 05:55 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Like i said just dont lock them and pc same as what you do I like them as their smaller and look just like petri
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Kenetic]
#24120957 - 02/26/17 10:41 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Twist off lids are not essential (but I would rather have them), you can prevent vacuum in snap on tubs by ensuring there is not a perfect seal, and that a perfect seal cannot form during heating. If a snap on lid is left cracked it can easily heat up and fall back into place. You need something to stop this. If you get some string or plastic wire and have it draped over the side of the plastic jar edge and place the cap on top then it cannot form a seal. You can have the lid partially snapped on too.
I have been using the wire off ear plugs recently.

I have used folded up tinfoil but it risks breaking as you pull it out. Easier to work with the screw on lids but they might be hard for some to find.
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kenetic said: I personally think that no pour plates don't even need a filter because there is already so much air in the container.
+1, I did a test on grain jars with no lids, they did stall, but there was a hell of a lot more myc that had grown than in a typical petri. I also do not bother with filters on most LCs, it allows you to shake the hell out of the jar to aerate the water. I would use a large jar for LC, and only have it 1/4 full so lots of airpace is in there.
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: blackout]
#24121116 - 02/26/17 11:42 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nice info dood. Gonna try a few plates screwed tight.
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Ziran]
#24121166 - 02/26/17 12:09 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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how do you get away without using parafilm
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Kalypto]
#24121282 - 02/26/17 12:49 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Ziran]
#24124471 - 02/27/17 06:56 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ziran said: Trying some PCed Plates without foil. If they work well I will update the tek  Even trying a Doc_T plate without foil as well.

After letting the solidify and sit for a day, Looking at them today when made without the foil on them it seems that there is some standing water on the agar surface. It could be from the condensation. But I don't like it. Think those plates are still good to use?
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Ziran]
#24124518 - 02/27/17 07:15 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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I find with larger than 4 oz plates your more likely to have condensatin pooling on the surface. They're still fine to use. You could pour out the water in your sab before you transfer. Or you could just let the myc grow through it. It won't look pretty but eventually the plate will dry up on its own
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: ComebackKid]
#24124554 - 02/27/17 07:28 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Pouring it out sounds like a great idea. IME standing water on plates can spread around bacteria that would normally only be in a tiny area, plus it can slightly obscure visibility.
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: ComebackKid]
#24124903 - 02/27/17 10:23 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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ComebackKid said: I find with larger than 4 oz plates your more likely to have condensatin pooling on the surface. They're still fine to use. You could pour out the water in your sab before you transfer. Or you could just let the myc grow through it. It won't look pretty but eventually the plate will dry up on its own

Thanks CBK. I did a reishi xfer into one of these plates to test. as reishi tends to tear thru whatever it gets put to. shits aggressive as fuck. Good to know that the standing water isn't an issue. I was about to toss out 10 plates worth of agar. Fuck dat noise.
Other than that. It seems that yes you can PC them without the foil.
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Ziran] 1
#24136587 - 03/04/17 04:06 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ziran said:
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Ziran said: Trying some PCed Plates without foil. If they work well I will update the tek  Even trying a Doc_T plate without foil as well.

After letting the solidify and sit for a day, Looking at them today when made without the foil on them it seems that there is some standing water on the agar surface. It could be from the condensation. But I don't like it. Think those plates are still good to use?
The plates I made this way were no good. they developed a funky smell to them after sitting with nothing in them. No good doing it this way.
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Ziran]
#24136609 - 03/04/17 04:16 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well that sucks. I personally like the foil, and I definitely wouldn't let prepped agar sit for a day
Edit: You meant after sterilization
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Kenetic] 1
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Yes. Lol. after a PC cycle they are good for a while. Those ones got a funky smell after about a week. XD Also ruined two cultures.
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Added in my nasty af plate from my BFM thread. Just showing how easy it is to transfer away from contamns. Will post the new plates in a few days once I do another transfer of the set.
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Ziran]
#24375762 - 06/04/17 06:41 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I reuse the foil as much as I can
great philosophy. I'm on my third batch of plates using the same foil. Generally speaking I use the foil until it tears. I've reused foil for plates for a year.
I prefer no pour, recyclable, reusable. No buying anything online and waiting. Agar at your disposal at anytime.
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Ziran]
#24682258 - 10/03/17 10:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Updated OP to include that PCing without the foil caused them to have water on the surface of the agar, which resulted in them going bad.
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Ziran]
#24682291 - 10/03/17 10:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I forgot to put foil on some pasty plates once, same shit happened, agar got wet and I chucked 'em
And I have never even thought of reusing the foil that's fuckin smart
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: potnug]
#24682315 - 10/03/17 10:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I save my foil from my grain jars/pf tek jars too. Saves a lot of tin foil that way. I usually throw them away if they tear when I take them off thou.
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Ziran]
#24833878 - 12/08/17 12:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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How does this hold up in an autoclave? Was wondering if the constant vacuum on cooling would suck out the contents or cause issues with water build-up.
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: vatman]
#24833884 - 12/08/17 12:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have never used an autoclave so I do not know.
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Ziran]
#24836867 - 12/09/17 11:14 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was working on my car came back my sterilizer was at 22 psi. Nothing melted and just have a little condensation on the sides. Transferred some platous cystidiosas should turn out fine.
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Ziran]
#24883485 - 01/01/18 04:57 PM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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Found some cool new containers that work well. Will add a pic of them to OP. they are a similar style just smaller in circumference.
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Ziran]
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Ziran]
#24900851 - 01/09/18 02:03 PM (7 years, 9 days ago) |
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updated op to reflect using glass no pours and my new plastic ones along with my old plastic ones
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Ziran]
#24972809 - 02/06/18 11:58 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Updated OP. Gif is now hosted on the shroomery
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Ziran]
#24984440 - 02/10/18 10:45 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just incase people have been wondering where I got my new plastic containers.
Walmart. They are cheaper than the 4 oz jelly jars. As the 4 oz jelly jars for 12 of them is like 10 dollars and then you have to buy the plastic lids separate.
These containers are 2.47 for 6 of them including the plastic lids. 
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Ziran]
#25033152 - 03/02/18 09:49 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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So do you have to use plastic jar lids if you're using glass jars for no pour, or can you just use regular jar lids?? Also would you need to modify them and use SFD's or polyfil or could you just turn the lid upside down and put the ring on loose?? Just looking for a way to re use what I have on hand rather then ordering petri's or buying a bunch of containers. Thanks in advance!!
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Trav420]
#25033329 - 03/02/18 10:51 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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One piece lids make life easy peezy. No filter needed. Unscrew the lids a bit and when you take them out after pressure drops to zero screw em on tight.
I use the 1/2 pint wide mouth jars from walmart special ordered, clear non quilted sides, 12 for $9 + the 8 packof ball plastic lids for $3. 2 packs of jars, 3 packs of lids = 24 high visibility no pours.
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: JHOVA]
#25033386 - 03/02/18 11:16 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for the info, but I wanted to know if I can use regular lids for this instead of having to buy any. I already have a shit ton of jars and lids sitting here which cost me nothing, so if I can use them great. I finally did find some info on here a few minutes ago about using regular lids so I'm going to give them a try and see what happens. If the PO ever decides to finally deliver the plastic ones I ordered these will probably go back to storage but good learning tool none the less.
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Trav420]
#25033518 - 03/02/18 12:05 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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You CAN. I wouldnt personally. I hold no pours in my left hand upside down and having a lid and a ring is cumbersome. Nothing can fall down on your culture when you hold the jar at an angle and you can manipulate it easier than your hand over open media traditional style.
If you use them like traditional petris removing the lid upright i would flip the lid preventing a tight seal.
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: JHOVA]
#25033597 - 03/02/18 12:37 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well it figures, no sooner had I complained about the PO not delivering my shit, guess who showed up...lol
I should correct myself though, I didn't order plastic lids I had ordered plastic petri's. I'm still going to give a few jars a go just because I like to fuck around and learn new things. I will probably flip the lids and I will use a SFD with them which also came in my order, just cause. Thanks for your help though!!
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Ziran]
#25143226 - 04/16/18 12:09 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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do you tinfoil this style of plate before pcing?
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: thelanzii]
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do you tinfoil this style of plate before pcing?
Yes sir. I also loosen the lid a tad too. Just like pasty does with his quart jars
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Ziran]
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I don't see why holes for just agar, not required for this step. I have made many plates no holes and worked perfectly
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Ziran]
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So are the transfers because of contams and trying to isolate the non-contam cultures? I am VERY new (as in, never did it) to agar plating to grain jars (going to use oats).
Just wanna make sure I know what I'm getting into... thanks!
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KookaburraMan said: So are the transfers because of contams and trying to isolate the non-contam cultures? I am VERY new (as in, never did it) to agar plating to grain jars (going to use oats).
Just wanna make sure I know what I'm getting into... thanks!
The transfers work for both, although once you have a clean plate, you can use it. you don't have to go any further than getting a clean culture if you don't want to.
Usually between 2-5 transfers and you can have yourself a nice and clean plate. (depending on how good your technique is)
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Ziran]
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This is very nice
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: Ziran]
#27289679 - 05/01/21 09:54 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I tried this exact method earlier this week and about half of my plates ended up with some standing water on the agar surface. Do you know what causes this and how to prevent it for next time? I wrapped all of them pretty tightly with foil so I'm not sure what I did wrong
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: shakezilla]
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shakezilla said: I tried this exact method earlier this week and about half of my plates ended up with some standing water on the agar surface. Do you know what causes this and how to prevent it for next time? I wrapped all of them pretty tightly with foil so I'm not sure what I did wrong
Just dump the water out on your sab floor before your transfer and you're golden.
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Re: No Pour Plates Ziran Style [Re: shakezilla]
#27311889 - 05/16/21 10:29 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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shakezilla said: I tried this exact method earlier this week and about half of my plates ended up with some standing water on the agar surface. Do you know what causes this and how to prevent it for next time? I wrapped all of them pretty tightly with foil so I'm not sure what I did wrong
which type of container did you use?
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