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Re: trying 25I-NBOMe tonight [Re: nooneman]
    #17871418 - 02/26/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)
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I read all DOI derivatives work your kidneys fucking hard. Lsd has an effect on them too, but i think its like 600x less
look at the attached paper
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Re: trying 25I-NBOMe tonight [Re: ChRnZN]
    #17871589 - 02/26/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Regardless, its worth trying once.. Some people noobs love it.






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You're such a loser dude. You have absolutely no appreciation of people who are interested in structure-activity relationships. I bet all you know is how hetty your acid is and all you do is talk down on everybody.

Screw you, you're the noob. BS is way more intelligent that you are and I'm sure he can fully appreciate the chemical specificities of this drug and his 5-HT2a receptors.

Go die in a puddle of shit.



why u mad tho?




Honestly I LOL'ed hard IRL when I read this. I was in lab, so it was kinda awkward. I couldn't help myself, I was tickled by the zeal. :datass:

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I read all DOI derivatives work your kidneys fucking hard. Lsd has an effect on them too, but i think its like 600x less
look at the attached paper
be careful




All I know is that 2C-I has made me feel like absolute SHIT every time I've taken it. Not comparable to the load from 2C-E or 2C-B. It's possible that my kidneys are already on the defensive, or it could be that I wasn't made for 2C-I. :okay:


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Re: trying 25I-NBOMe tonight [Re: nooneman]
    #17871709 - 02/26/13 09:11 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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The "I" psychedelics are almost all bad: DOI is notoriously bad, 25i is bad, 2CI is supposedly good, but I think most people agree that all the other 2Cs are better. I think the iodines are just not very good psychedelics for some reason.



Yeah that does seem to be the general consensus on things. Same goes for chlorine subs being good. I would personally never try DOI or 2Ci, I would however do DOC or 2cc. Just because that's what the general consensus on the substances seems to be.

I would also never try 25i again, I have some 25c though that I hopefully plan on getting the balls to do sometime soon.

It's just 25i kind of ruined the images of all nbomes for me lol im not trying to get some fucking altheizmers parkinsons bullshit anytime soon, that fried feeling after 25i worries the fuck out of me very distinct feeling of something chemically happening that shouldnt be happening imo


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Re: trying 25I-NBOMe tonight [Re: Sheekle]
    #17871732 - 02/26/13 09:14 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

I think I know what you mean. 2C-I always gave me a wicked hangover in addition to the bodyload during the trip. It makes me feel completely fried, exhausted, burnt-out, fuck-it-all-and-hide-in-a-box, etc. :feelsbadman:

I don't think I've tried any of the C's, except for DOC once, but that had a bit of DOI in it. :rolleyes:


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Re: trying 25I-NBOMe tonight [Re: Sheekle]
    #17871929 - 02/26/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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25i fucking sucks



Hey sheekle. Last weekend I did 5mg 25i but I used a bunch of supplements designed for the detoxiciation of toxic MDMA metabolites. (LOok up my thread in ODD). It totally destroyed the burnt out feeling of this interesting phenetylamine.

Anyway I also took some etizolam like a low dose and it was blissful. The walls were flowing and was listening to classical music.

Its still unhealthy but at least it didn't feel so.



Good shit, what makes you say "It's still unhealthy but at least it didn't feel like so."

Wouldn't it be like way less unhealthy that it was before? I'm obviously not expecting there to be no health reactions at all but i'd figure there be a big difference in the level of toxicity amirite?

I'll check that thread out :thumbup:


Also, FIVE MILLIGRAMS of 25i? Weren't you always saying how 800ug was a strong trip? :shocked:



Were there any side effects that remained persistent before and after supplements  were used with it? (Vasoconstriction, temp. regulation issues, etc)?



Well as with most regretful decisions etizolam was involved in that. I had a 10mg sample which I divided into 16 hits. I decided to take the supplements and a few etiz plus one of the 25i hits and head out for a psy party. Honestly I don't remember much of the evening apart from some idea of very good psytrance and meeting a shroomerite.

No bad times cause the etizolam killed all the possible anxiety. I recall cool lasers which the nbome made pretty cool visually.

I was quite worried about its effects from my 800ug experience but I can't be bothered with acid at a rave. Not that I normally wouldn't if given the opportunity but rather be somewhere quiet with my girl.

But no nothing bad happened.

So I come back home, have 2 :tee:, another 5-10 etizolams or so and 2 more of my 25i hits.

I wake up some 13 hours later and eat another 4 hits, 2 more pods and 3-4 more etizolams and my favourite supplements for MDMA damage (I assumed their antioxidant effect should be good for this phenetylamine as well, certainly didn't see the harm in trying :shrug:). About an hour later I ate another hit cause it seemed like a brilliant idea with all the etizolam and stuff :facepalm::lol::facepalm:

The walls became like Jupiter.

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The visuals while impressive are pretty boring in a way.





True, they are really a side bonus to the music thing. I was listening to this classical piece of music:


And I got this sensual-auditory synesthesia, every tone was like a gentle massage on my spinal cord and muscles.

At one point I smoked a joint and thats when I got worried but of course MORE ETIZOLAM :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: to the waking of me 16 hours later :lol::lol::lol:




On Monday I was feeling quite okay actually. I didn't feel fried, negative or anything like that. Just very relaxed and normal, maybe a small positive glow but nothing unusual. I expected to feel mega fried but I suppose the supplements reduced the fried sensations.



Either way it was an interesting experience. Not something I'd do every month.


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Re: trying 25I-NBOMe tonight [Re: ChRnZN]
    #17872309 - 02/26/13 11:12 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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I read all DOI derivatives work your kidneys fucking hard. Lsd has an effect on them too, but i think its like 600x less
look at the attached paper
be careful




I pissed so many times while drunk and on 25B-NBOMe.

I have a question for all those of you who've tried all the nbomes.

With 25B I see geometric patterns a lot like flowers and kaleidoscopic patterns with not too many axes.

With 25I I just see the walls floating like a river

What is 25C like visually?


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Re: trying 25I-NBOMe tonight [Re: mellowparty]
    #17872321 - 02/26/13 11:15 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

the two times ive tried 25c i never had intense visuals, just mild warpy shit.  I've read people see fractally crazy :raveface: though


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Re: trying 25I-NBOMe tonight [Re: mellowparty]
    #17872951 - 02/27/13 01:44 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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With 25B I see geometric patterns a lot like flowers and kaleidoscopic patterns with not too many axes.

With 25I I just see the walls floating like a river

What is 25C like visually?



For me, there's an enormous amount of distortion. Things wave and bend to a fairly extreme degree, grow, shrink, distortions in depth perception, etc. I've actually never had distortions so extreme, but it's not a rapid distortion. Things wave, bend and distort slowly and calmly. The way it makes things wave is incredibly beautiful. Icons on my desktop would rotate left and right between 45 degree angles, and rows of icons would rotate starting from the left side of the monitor and causing a cascade of rotation in the other icons traveling right. It looked like a breeze was blowing from left to right rotating them one by one.

I get way more color enhancement on 25c than on 25i or 25d. Colors were enhanced at least 2x-3x if not more, especially blues. When I look at an image of the ocean, the blue is so deep and the waving is so calm that it's almost like I'm there.

The flowing is very similar to flowing on 2CE, if you're looking at an image of rocks and grass the texture within the rocks will flow only within the boundaries of the rock, and it will seem to move over the contours of the rock. Very complex flowing. The visuals are 2d geometric, but very complex, nothing like the simple geometric visuals of psilocybin. I've seen large shapes like hearts and stars form out of complex 2d patterns. The patterns circled in on each other forming large complex shapes of intricate 2d geometric patterns

I'm still not doing it justice. Visually it is very impressive.


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Re: trying 25I-NBOMe tonight [Re: mellowparty]
    #17873616 - 02/27/13 08:50 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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I read all DOI derivatives work your kidneys fucking hard. Lsd has an effect on them too, but i think its like 600x less
look at the attached paper
be careful




I looked through that a bit and all it seems to talk about is DOI effecting oxytoncin release but maybe it's cause i'm not caught up on all the scientific lingo :confused:


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Re: trying 25I-NBOMe tonight [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #24109773 - 02/21/17 11:30 PM (7 years, 2 days ago)

2C-I was def one of my least favorites of the 2Cs... I would always get a super high anxious body load, not very psychedelic for that matter either.
2CB was always fucking amazing.. more similar to molly than anything. 2CE I would say is the closest to LSD.
25c, 2CE 2CB, 2CC were some of my favorites. But LSD rules all. 25I sucks from my experience :frown:


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Re: trying 25I-NBOMe tonight [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #24109783 - 02/21/17 11:37 PM (7 years, 2 days ago)

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I strongly suggest taking some magnesium before taking the 25i, it gets rid of a lot of the few negative effects I sometimes get with 25i, like jaw clenching, vasoconstriction and bodily tension. :yesnod:




Good to know! Thanks for the heads-up, sounds like a trip to GNC is in order...




Fuck that! Get this shit. Magnesium is not very bio-available orally, and supplements generally suck for them, and to get a sufficient dose taken orally will likely give you stomach uncomfort/diarrhea. Through the skin is the best possible way to dose the magnesium - you completely bypass the gastrointestinal tract..  and that's some of the purest in the world.. that bottle will last you a year or three easy. The best part is that magnesium is a vital mineral and is vital to literally almost every function of the human body and LOTS of people are deficient in it to begin with, so it's never a bad idea, and you can't take too much through the skin, body will only absorb as much as it needs. Recommended for humans.


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