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OfflineTheShroomHermit
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How to get rid of religion?
    #2410867 - 03/09/04 01:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I do not wish to die in the crossfire of religous wars, or watch as the world is torn apart over different beliefs. What can one human being such as I do to help eliminate the hatred and intolerance that is spawned by these organized religions? I've been turning it over in my head but I keep comming up with solutions that are too extreme to be feasible.

What can one man do?


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Re: How to get rid of religion? [Re: TheShroomHermit]
    #2410872 - 03/09/04 01:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Meditate... find "God" (or whatever you want to call it) in all existence and in yourself... allow this new outlook on life to seep through to your daily activities... when friends or family ask what caused this change, suggest a variety of different spiritual practices to them... organized religion has caused a lot of problems, that much is true... but there is no way to "get rid of it"... the solution, in my opinion, is to try to spread a grassroots campaign towards finding spiritual truth in all of existence, thus creating solidarity between all peoples (not to mention the Earth and animals) which will end all this bickering.


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Re: How to get rid of religion? [Re: TheShroomHermit]
    #2411062 - 03/09/04 02:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

most people that try to get rid of religion just end up starting a new one

examples:

Martin luther
Jesus
Buddah
Lao Tzu


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Re: How to get rid of religion? [Re: TheShroomHermit]
    #2411175 - 03/09/04 02:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Live an honorable life and don't be afraid to confront the fools.
Speak your mind fearlessly. None of the people Doctor cites tried to get rid of religion, they tried to get rid of a religion. Religion is the greatest force for evil this world has ever known


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Re: How to get rid of religion? [Re: TheShroomHermit]
    #2411206 - 03/09/04 03:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

oh don't worry abou tit
when all the old people
and all the humorless prudes
and pedophile priests
and dysfunctional cultists
and jesus juice drinkin' freaks die out
()
, religion will go along with them
then we'll be free.


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Re: How to get rid of religion? [Re: TheShroomHermit]
    #2411305 - 03/09/04 03:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Don't worry about trying to "convert" others away from their religion...because then you are really no better than those religious nuts you are trying to get rid of!

Worry about you and your life. Life it the way you know you should. That's all you can hope for, I'm afraid...but if you can do that you have already won :wink:


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Re: How to get rid of religion? [Re: TheShroomHermit]
    #2411767 - 03/09/04 07:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Evolve the way nature (or god) meant us too.
Once you are a god ... abolish it !
If you believe in it ..... HE created us in His image !
Therefore he created God hoping one or more of us would take his place , and become gods ourselves .
Well at least in my sick little universe that is what I believe . :wink:
We all have the power to create life ... choosing to have children, is the most basic of that theory and the least poliotically controversial . HMMMM Choking on own foot right now ...... :lipsrsealed:
We all have the power to destroy life ... just look around you see it , do it , watch it all the time .
But are we evolving as a whole in the right direction .......?
Thats a tough one ........
I think father would be disappointed in his childrens choice of learning path ... :wink:
Just the ramblings of a fool , who is surrounded by geniuses .
Trip n D


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Then the priest fell into a trance or swoon,& said unto the Queen of heaven ; Write unto us the ordeals; write unto us the rituals; write unto us the law !


Edited by tripndicular (03/09/04 07:54 PM)


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Re: How to get rid of religion? [Re: TheShroomHermit]
    #2411971 - 03/09/04 08:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

could lack of religion be considered a religion?

are atheists really religious, in a sort of negative
or reverse sort of way?

the religion on naught.


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Re: How to get rid of religion? [Re: TheShroomHermit]
    #2411973 - 03/09/04 08:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well, I don't know if it's "too extreme," but I've heard of a coalition of the willing attempting to drastically alter the balance of opinion that currently exists by planting nuclear weapons in many major cities, world wide, and detonate them simultaneously.

This probably would influence (remaining) public opinion. But you be the judge to see if it's too extreme for you to be involved in.


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Re: How to get rid of religion? [Re: TheShroomHermit]
    #2412010 - 03/09/04 08:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I don't think religion is what needs to go. I think it's intolerance that is the problem.


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Re: How to get rid of religion? [Re: dawn of a new day]
    #2412029 - 03/09/04 09:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Some religions call for intolerance towards other religions.


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Re: How to get rid of religion? [Re: Chimera]
    #2412039 - 03/09/04 09:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Then all religions need to get rid of intolerance, as the first rule of the new day?


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Re: How to get rid of religion? [Re: Chimera]
    #2412040 - 03/09/04 09:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Sure, but I don't believe that's a good reason to abolish religion. I'd be willing to bet that there are tolerant and intolerant people in every religion, just as there are in pretty much any group of people.


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Re: How to get rid of religion? [Re: dawn of a new day]
    #2412064 - 03/09/04 09:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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dawn of a new day said:
Sure, but I don't believe that's a good reason to abolish religion. I'd be willing to bet that there are tolerant and intolerant people in every religion, just as there are in pretty much any group of people.




I think you're right. Like Frog said, let's just get rid of the intolerant! But, wouldn't we be being intolerant ourselves?


I'm confused!  :nut:


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Re: How to get rid of religion? [Re: Frog]
    #2412080 - 03/09/04 09:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You;'re not goign to be able to get rid of the intolerance in all muslims. or jews. or nearly any/every religion on the planet.

We need more room to expand and isolate. We have different cultures, and we could have different civilizations, soon.

Imagine those wars, wow, crazy stuff ahead!


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Re: How to get rid of religion? [Re: Chimera]
    #2412087 - 03/09/04 09:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

haha, good point. Maybe instead of getting rid of the intolerant we can just try to help them become more tolerant. That way we can avoid the confusion and get rid of some of this crazy ol' violence stuff too.


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Re: How to get rid of religion? [Re: recalcitrant]
    #2412335 - 03/09/04 10:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well, that's one of the first things we can do in the revolution. Let's offer classes around the globe teaching "tolerance". I'll opt to go teach tolerance in Hawaii or Cancun or some remote, faraway pleace like that, if someone else takes Afghanistan or Iraq.


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Re: How to get rid of religion? [Re: Frog]
    #2412575 - 03/09/04 11:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Would not "tolerance' then become a religion if practiced and followed by multitudes in classes ?


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So with that said here is our mission statement .

Then the priest fell into a trance or swoon,& said unto the Queen of heaven ; Write unto us the ordeals; write unto us the rituals; write unto us the law !


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Re: How to get rid of religion? [Re: TheShroomHermit]
    #2412605 - 03/09/04 11:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I say give everyone some shrooms and make them listen to Bill Hicks.


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Re: How to get rid of religion? [Re: tripndicular]
    #2412608 - 03/09/04 11:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

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Would not "tolerance' then become a religion if practiced and followed by multitudes in classes ?




No, because everyone would get to keep their same religions, they would just learn to accept that others have their own religions. It would be Woodstock 2004. Oh, wait. By the time we got the word out, and everyone started complying, it would be, uh...

Woodstock 2012!! So instead of the world ending, we would have music playing all over the world, or something, proclaiming "We are the world", or something like that.


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