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#24076452 - 02/09/17 12:51 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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“It was a movie about American bombers in World War II and the gallant men who flew them. Seen backwards by Billy, the story went like this: American planes, full of holes and wounded men and corpses took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground, and those planes flew up backwards to join the formation.
The formation flew backwards over a German city that was in flames. The bombers opened their bomb bay doors, exerted a miraculous magnetism which shrunk the fires, gathered them into cylindrical steel containers , and lifted the containers into the bellies of the planes. The containers were stored neatly in racks. The Germans below had miraculous devices of their own, which were long steel tubes. They used them to suck more fragments from the crewmen and planes. But there were still a few wounded Americans though and some of the bombers were in bad repair. Over France though, German fighters came up again, made everything and everybody as good as new.
When the bombers got back to their base, the steel cylinders were taken from the racks and shipped back to the United States of America, where factories were operating night and day, dismantling the cylinders, separating the dangerous contents into minerals. Touchingly, it was mainly women who did this work. The minerals were then shipped to specialists in remote areas. It was their business to put them into the ground, to hide them cleverly, so they would never hurt anybody ever again.”
― Kurt Vonnegut, Slaughterhouse-Five
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This was my slow and delayed follow up
(more on point on Kurt's post)
'The psychedelics are a red-hot social issue, ethical issue, whatever the term for it is, and it is precisely because they are a deconditioning agents: they will cast doubt in you if you are a Hasidic rabbi, a Marxist anthropologist, or an altar boy, because their business is to dissolve belief systems, and they do this very well and then they leave you with the raw datum of experience, what William James called in infants 'the blooming, buzzing experience.' And out of that you reconstruct the world, and you need to understand that it is a dialog where your decisions, the projection of your grammar onto the intellectual space in front of you, is going to gel into the mode of being. We actually create our own universe because we are all operating with our own private languages.'
it's the same Terence McKenna
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(I got ehewhe from gnomic bombers of warcraft II, naturally)
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical Quotes [Re: Halayudha] 2
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"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." --Arthur Schopenhauer
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Schopenhauer just nailed it.
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical Quotes [Re: Kurt]
#24078543 - 02/09/17 09:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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"sometimes the good you do dont do you no good."
"you'll have to speak up, im wearing a towel"
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical Quotes [Re: sprinkles] 1
#24080585 - 02/10/17 07:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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“To share your weakness is to make yourself vulnerable; to make yourself vulnerable is to show your strength.”
Criss Jami
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical Quotes [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#24082393 - 02/11/17 02:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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"In the great drama of existence we ourselves are both actors and spectators." –Niels Bohr
"The essential achievement of the will, in short, when it is most "voluntary," is to attend to a difficult object and hold it fast before the mind... Effort of attention is thus the essential phenomenon of will." --William James
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"Science does not limit human behavior to genetics or "free will." Although they may use other terminology, most current psychologists would agree in general, I think, with Dr. Tim Leary's notion that all behavior (Gay or straight, "mental" or "emotional," "crazy" or "sane") results from a synergy of (1) genes, (2) early imprinting, (3) conditioning, (4) school-and-other learning, and (5) blind circumstance." --Robert Anton Wilson
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"Beware of anyone who calls you bad names merely for asking honest questions. Beware of anyone who insists on reframing your sincere curiosity as a character defect. Beware of anyone who questions your motives while ignoring your facts. When someone calls you bad names merely for asking questions, it suggests they know the answer but are terrified to admit it."
-Jim Goad
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“Imagine a society that subjects people to conditions that make them terribly unhappy then gives them the drugs to take away their unhappiness. Science fiction It is already happening to some extent in our own society. Instead of removing the conditions that make people depressed modern society gives them antidepressant drugs. In effect antidepressants are a means of modifying an individual's internal state in such a way as to enable him to tolerate social conditions that he would otherwise find intolerable.”
― Theodore J. Kaczynski
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Quote:
So long as western people imagine that there only exists a single type of humanity, that there is only one 'civilization', at different stages of development, no mutual understanding will be possible. The truth is that there are many civilizations, developing along very different lines, and that, among these, that of the modern West is strangely exceptional, as some of its characteristics show.
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The civilization of the modern West appears in history a veritable anomaly: among all those which are known to us more or less completely, this civilization is the only one which has developed along purely material lines and this monstrous development, whose beginning coincindes with the so-called Renaissance, has been accompanied, as indeed it was fated to be, with a corresponding intellectual regress ... This regress has reached such a point that the Westerners of today no longer know what pure intellect is; in fact they do not even suspect that anything of the kind can exist.
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Hence their disdain, not only for eastern civilization, but also for the Middle Ages of Europe, whose spirit escapes them scarcely less completely. How is the interest of a purely speculative knowledge to be brought home to people for whom intelligence is nothing but a means of acting on matter and turning it to practical ends, and for whom science, in their limited understanding of it, is above all important in so far as it may be applied to industrial purposes?
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Most extraordinary of all is perhaps the claim to set up this abnormal civilization as the very type of all civilization, to regard it as Civilization with a capital letter, and even as the only one which deserves the name. Extraordinary too, and also complementary to this illusion, is the belief in "progress," considered no less absolutely, and naturally identified, at heart, with this material development which absorbs the entire activity of the modern West.
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In any case, what westeners call civilization, the others would call barbarity, because it is precisely lacking in the essential, that is to say a principle of a higher order.
-Rene Guenon
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: tHEfLY]
#24100531 - 02/18/17 03:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Very insightful and very true.
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: DividedQuantum] 1
#24101763 - 02/19/17 01:01 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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"I don't believe that any human mind is capable of 100 percent error... Nobody is smart enough to be wrong all the time."
Ken Wilber
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#24102612 - 02/19/17 12:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
-W. B. Yeats, 1919
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"A sophisticated human can become primitive. What this really means is that the human's way of life changes. Old values change, become linked to the landscape with its plants and animals. This new existence requires a working knowledge of those multiplex and cross-linked events usually referred to as nature. It requires a measure of respect for the inertial power within such natural systems. When a human gains this working knowledge and respect, that is called "being primitive." The converse, of course, is equally true: the primitive man can become sophisticated, but not without accepting dreadful psychological damage." --Frank Herbert
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: DividedQuantum]
#24104219 - 02/19/17 10:43 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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"War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength"
-Orwell
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"The essence of philosophy is that a man should so live that his happiness shall depend as little as possible on external things."
-Epictetus
“The universe is change; our life is what our thoughts make it.”
-Marcus Aurelius
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"The more I see of man, the more I love my dog." --Pascal
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: DividedQuantum]
#24111148 - 02/22/17 02:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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'A good gambler can get money out of a lamp post.' - Titanic Thompson
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: graceful dragon]
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"Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most." - Ozzy Osbourne
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"I found it is the small everyday deeds of ordinary folk that keep the darkness at bay… small acts of kindness and love.” - Gandalf The Grey.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle
"I like to think of Jesus like with giant eagle's wings, and singin' lead vocals for Lynyrd Skynyrd with like an angel band and I'm in the front row and I'm HAMMERED DRUNK!" - Cal Naughton Jr. AKA The Magic Man. Abracadabra homes!
"Each tear is a drop of poison released." - Anonymous
"Could it be you're afraid of what your friends might say if they knew you believe in God above? They should realize before they criticize that God is the only way to Love."
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