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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Thedillestpickle]
    #24086155 - 02/12/17 10:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah man same for me. The beads shrink a little bit but never disappear entirely.
My last tub the pinset was so dense that there was almost no surface left though :lol:



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Getting the surface moisture has made growing monos such a breeze... I've stopped misting entirely and just focus on dialing in the mono and knowing when to open up FAE and when to hold off. 
This!
Exactly what inspired me to do this whole write up in the first place.


I think it helps that I run a humidifier in the room at 60%RH, I'm not sure how well this would work without that boost in humidity. 
Give it a shot. I have a feeling the humidifier is overkill. But whatever works.

Been having a hard time to get the dew to form around the perimeter of the tub, it's always a bit drier near the walls... I really don't want to start misting though
The corners of my sub used to always be dry and pinless. I have misted them in the past and it helps with pinset but I found that thicker casing during spawn helps even out the moisture and pinset on its own




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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24088573 - 02/13/17 10:40 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

ahh ok I haven't been casing at all. I'll give that shot next weekend

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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Thedillestpickle]
    #24089074 - 02/14/17 05:36 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Next time you spawn a 66qt tub, measure and set aside 1-2qts bulk sub.
Then after you mix your spawn just layer the top with the bulk you set aside.

I've found 2 quarts to be my magic number so far but I'm still playing around with it


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24103986 - 02/19/17 08:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Two updates:

Feb 14 2017

8 days after spawn


I finally decided to introduce fresh air exchange!
I usually like to wait until the mycelium completely colonizes the casing layer but I used 2 quarts for this tub so the casing is pretty thick.
8 days is long enough imo. I wouldn't wait longer than 10 anyway.


Water is beading up nicely where the myc is popping through.

Feb 19 2017

13 days after spawn
Just checked on my tub. We have pins!!!


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24104022 - 02/19/17 09:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

:awetongue:

13 days is legit.:cheers:

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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: mushboy]
    #24104575 - 02/20/17 06:37 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks dude! It was knotting up pretty good by day 10 even to the point where one of the cluster of knots had taken a bit of shape.



It's impossible to see all the knots due to flash but you can definitely make out some primordia back there.

Just goes to show the power of FAE as a pinning trigger I'd say


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid] * 1
    #24104800 - 02/20/17 09:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

:solidnod:

im dreading whenever i go back to work cause i will have to redial in my shit with less FAE
cause ill need to hold in the moisture better since i wont be home.

time to create the ultimate automated misting machine tek...



the wife :wink: she works from home. score!

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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: mushboy]
    #24112222 - 02/22/17 10:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Increased FAE today
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24112242 - 02/22/17 10:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm :takingnotes::takingnotes:

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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: seventy7]
    #24112309 - 02/22/17 11:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

that pinset looks delicious:awetongue:

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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: mushboy]
    #24112984 - 02/23/17 09:14 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks dude! It's actually pretty rediculous. Still primordia forming and baby pins everywhere. Everywhere!

I can't wait to see what this variety has to offer in bottles. Hoping for larger fruits due to less surface area but we'll see. Maybe bottom watering will help too?


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24113054 - 02/23/17 09:53 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

:takingnotes:

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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: catnip40]
    #24113584 - 02/23/17 01:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I'm a noob trying to understand proper surface moisture / when to increase FAE. I've been using a plastic magnification sheet to inspect the subs (micro-monos) and it's helped so much. I get a day or two warning on things that aren't right, and a chance to improve conditions before it all gets wrecked. As a noob it's making it a lot easier to see what the sub wants.

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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: crowseed]
    #24113605 - 02/23/17 01:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I'm glad to hear that's working for you. But I'm not quite sure what you mean by magnification sheet macro monos.
The moisture should be visible without magnification.
What exactly are you finding with the magnification sheet? :takingnotes:


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24113907 - 02/23/17 04:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Hi. I meant the tubs I have are micro-monos (smaller than mini-monos). I'm seeing the moisture levels much more clearly with magnification and finally get it. I'd been spraying too much without realising and got some bacteria on some pin caps in one tub. I was able to remove the pins as soon as they became infected and it seems to have stopped spreading. I could finally see I was putting too much moisture in there I guess, though it would be obvious to a non-noob. Stuff was just more visible and I could see changes more quickly. I'd cased with way too much verm as well. Maybe the penny would have dropped anyway, but the magnification really helped.

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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: mushboy] * 1
    #24114476 - 02/23/17 07:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: magicMerlin]
    #24121939 - 02/26/17 06:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)


Harvested this morning :awetongue:


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24121945 - 02/26/17 06:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Tookitooki]
    #24122012 - 02/26/17 07:14 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Your pinsets have been consistently excellent

So I'm trying to understand what you are doing.  It seems you wait until fully colonized, then you "fruit" as in removing tape and replacing with double layered micropore.  And then you wait for as long as it takes until you have a nice pinset, misting if needed to achieve nice beads of moisture.  Once you have the pinset in you increase FAE even more by removing one layer of micropore from the bottom holes and completely removing all the micropore from the top holes.

Did I get that right?

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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Thedillestpickle]
    #24122069 - 02/26/17 07:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yup that pretty much sums it up!
I even wait for the pins to mature a bit before removing layers of tape.

Thanks man :cheers:
This is what I found works for me so far but I'm always tweaking little things here and there with every grow


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