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    #24099226 - 02/18/17 02:32 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Hello everyone, first timer here. I have a question regarding pre sterilized rye berry grow bags. I bought 2, 2lb bags with self healing injector ports and co2 patch from a non site supported vendor so I won't mention their name. I plan to use a shotgun tube method for fruiting but my question is about that very step. It doesn't appear from what I can tell that my bags open up/roll out like many I have seen online. So in this instance would it be advisable to open the bag gently after 100% colonization and empty the bag into the tub in its entirety so long as sterility/temperature/humidity is maintained? I was planning to line the bottom of the tub with washed/boiled/drained Perlite so the cake once out of the bag wouldn't be sitting on just plastic. The reason I ask is because the only other option I can think of is to slit the bag and it just seems like that would massively cut down on yield.  Also, if this okay would it also be okay to grow both cakes in one shotgun tube or should I do a separate one for each?


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Re: First timer here [Re: Ozzifuss]
    #24099264 - 02/18/17 02:54 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Upon further inspection I saw that the bags do indeed roll out (embarrassing to admit but still least I'm honest) however my question does remain. It does seem like taking it out of the bag would increase yield. But as I am a newbie I submit to the overwhelming knowledge of others here.


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Re: First timer here [Re: Ozzifuss]
    #24102261 - 02/19/17 11:56 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

If you empty it out of the bag youll be best mixing it with a bulk substrate and spawning it to a mono tub. A SGFC tub (not tube people hate it here when people call it a tube just a heads up) is more for cakes. As your using a bulk spawn I would recommend making a mono its alot easier than a sgfc. If you fruit it as is dont pull it from the bag or it will be a bitch to stop it drying out just trim it down. I speak from experience as what you are starting with was exactly what I started with I will link you to my first grow in a minute. Also if you fruit as is then a sgfc would be fine.
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Re: First timer here [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #24103611 - 02/19/17 09:01 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Right on, thank you for the reply. After looking at the bags I have I see some rotting of the rye berries so I'm thinking of having to switch up the whole plan. After looking into the monotub design it seems like I would have to order from a lot of sites to get the coir and everything as it's not sold where I live. Do you have any ideas on where I can order pre mixed and sterilized substrate? I found a site that will sell me 12 1/2 print pf jars to get the colonizing going. I just don't have a pressure cooker and sterilizing my sub and jars is just not really an option. Which I why I spending the extra to buy pre sterilized, pre mixed stuff.


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Re: First timer here [Re: Ozzifuss]
    #24104092 - 02/19/17 11:45 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

um , isnt there a home depot or lowes around missouri?


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Re: First timer here [Re: mynakedrat]
    #24104433 - 02/20/17 03:33 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Not in my area no


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Re: First timer here [Re: Ozzifuss]
    #24104435 - 02/20/17 03:38 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I'm fine with paying a bit to have properly mixed, pre sterilized sub. I don't have a pressure cooker or access to one either, much less could I sterilize jars and sub discreetly where I reside so mixing and sterilizing my own isn't much of a option.


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Re: First timer here [Re: Ozzifuss]
    #24104502 - 02/20/17 06:08 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

If you are dead set on ordering the stuff, the shroom supply is a sponsor that I have dealt with, am satisfied, and they sell what you're looking for.

http://www.shroomsupply.com/grain-spawn/sterilized-substrate-organic-rye-berries & they do have pressure cookers on amazon.

I was stationed at Whiteman for a few years are you anywhere near there?


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Re: First timer here [Re: Jonstipated]
    #24104686 - 02/20/17 10:28 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

i just made on order on their site. use code SHROOMERY for 10% off!. mention you are a member too


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    #24105363 - 02/20/17 02:47 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Thank you all for the advice and links. I saw on the site thatyou add the fully colonized grain spawn to the compost. Is that on top or mixed in, and if it is mixed in do you have any advice for breaking up the mycilium without damaging it too much?


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Re: First timer here [Re: Ozzifuss]
    #24105366 - 02/20/17 02:48 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Be careful ordering fully colonised active spawn very illegal in most places.


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    #24105383 - 02/20/17 02:54 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Nah, I'll be ordering syringes for the spore part. I'm brave but not that brave lol. One question I have is since I'll be using the monotub method I read that everything  is pre soaked with gypsum and is ready to go. My question is this, what do I do if the humidity drops too low since I'm not supposed to spray the substrate after colonization directly?


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Re: First timer here [Re: Ozzifuss]
    #24105500 - 02/20/17 03:34 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Ozzifuss said:
Thank you all for the advice and links. I saw on the site thatyou add the fully colonized grain spawn to the compost. Is that on top or mixed in, and if it is mixed in do you have any advice for breaking up the mycilium without damaging it too much?




Don't worry about damaging the mycelium, mix it up or you can layer it in.

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Nah, I'll be ordering syringes for the spore part. I'm brave but not that brave lol. One question I have is since I'll be using the monotub method I read that everything  is pre soaked with gypsum and is ready to go. My question is this, what do I do if the humidity drops too low since I'm not supposed to spray the substrate after colonization directly?




You spray the inside walls of the tub.


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Re: First timer here [Re: Jonstipated]
    #24105528 - 02/20/17 03:43 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Firstly never spray the walls of your tub thats retarded. Anyone recommending that really needs to do more research. To alter the climate in the mono you need to dial it in by altering the holes by that I mean pollyfill or micropore tape there are teks that will show you how to properly dial in your mono tub. One tek is called how to dial in a mono tub. I repeat dont spray the damn walls it does nothing at all they dont grow or create heat to evaporate water all the water runs down into the sub so you may aswell just pour water on the sub if your gonna spray the wall. The answer is always dial your tub in correctly and you wont have any problems.


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Re: First timer here [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #24105643 - 02/20/17 04:33 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Right on, thank you all for the advice.


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Re: First timer here [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #24105825 - 02/20/17 05:48 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Firstly never spray the walls of your tub thats retarded. Anyone recommending that really needs to do more research. To alter the climate in the mono you need to dial it in by altering the holes by that I mean pollyfill or micropore tape there are teks that will show you how to properly dial in your mono tub. One tek is called how to dial in a mono tub. I repeat dont spray the damn walls it does nothing at all they dont grow or create heat to evaporate water all the water runs down into the sub so you may aswell just pour water on the sub if your gonna spray the wall. The answer is always dial your tub in correctly and you wont have any problems.




Right, so you expect him to have it dialed in already? From what I've read if it gets too dry it's alright to mist the walls. Maybe that information is out-dated.


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    #24105866 - 02/20/17 06:03 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

My plan is to drill 1/4" holes every 2" above the 5" bottom layer.i am curious though, in a lot of the pictures I've seen there are large holes stuffed with some kind of cotton? Ideas?


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Re: First timer here [Re: Jonstipated]
    #24105870 - 02/20/17 06:05 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

What ever works for you works but its better to learn to dial it all in properly rather than putting out fires as they arrive. A monotub is basically automated you shouldnt need to do much to it except from switching from colonising to fruiting.

that sounds like youve got a mono and a sgfc crossed OP

im confused as to what your doing?
If sgfc you should never need to spray the walls as you have a 4" deep layer of perlite under your cakes that are sat on lids or foil. In which case always spray the cakes directly then once you get a few pins you then need to bottom water, change the water every day.


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Re: First timer here [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #24105880 - 02/20/17 06:11 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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that sounds like youve got a mono and a sgfc crossed OP




true.

check this out Ozzi

Spitball's Monotub Tek

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    #24105886 - 02/20/17 06:12 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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