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chemicals for one billion ecstasy pills seized in the Netherlands
    #24083562 - 02/12/17 02:30 AM (3 months, 10 days ago)

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Rilland, Netherlands - Dutch police have seized a truckload of chemicals they say could have produced up to one billion ecstasy pills.

Police from the Netherland’s Zeeland province told CNN more than 100 bottles of hydrogen gas, 15,000 kilograms (33,069 pounds) of caustic soda and 3,000 liters of other raw materials were found in a tractor trailer in Rilland, 40 kilometers north of the of the Belgium border on Thursday night.

Local residents noticed the truck hadn’t moved from a public parking lot for days, and the authorities were called to investigate.

The police estimate the chemicals alone are worth around several hundred thousand euros — the largest seizure of raw materials the force has ever recorded.

The bust came a day after 35 cans of chemical waste — believed to be drug runoff from an illegal ecstasy laboratory — were found in the same town.

Police told CNN they are investigating both incidents and that no arrests have been made so far.

The Netherlands is one of the world’s major hubs for ecstasy production and distribution.

According to the European Monitoring Center for Drugs and Drug Addiction, production of the popular party drug is on the rise in the Netherlands and neighboring Belgium, with underground laboratories becoming larger and more professional.

http://kfor.com/2017/02/11/chemicals-for-one-billion-ecstasy-pills-seized-in-the-netherlands/


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Re: chemicals for one billion ecstasy pills seized in the Netherlands [Re: losfreddy]
    #24083569 - 02/12/17 02:36 AM (3 months, 10 days ago)

Man I have to go over one day..


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Re: chemicals for one billion ecstasy pills seized in the Netherlands [Re: losfreddy] * 5
    #24083714 - 02/12/17 05:40 AM (3 months, 10 days ago)

Damn man, Asante was really stepping up his game..


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Re: chemicals for one billion ecstasy pills seized in the Netherlands [Re: Amanita86]
    #24084416 - 02/12/17 01:02 PM (3 months, 10 days ago)

god damnit! They will probably burn/destroy it too, and the cheap pricing now will go up, FUCK!


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Re: chemicals for one billion ecstasy pills seized in the Netherlands [Re: losfreddy]
    #24085310 - 02/12/17 05:45 PM (3 months, 10 days ago)

:wtfsonic:


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Re: chemicals for one billion ecstasy pills seized in the Netherlands [Re: Fennario] * 3
    #24087879 - 02/13/17 07:53 PM (3 months, 9 days ago)

Um... One billion?  Lol, I think not.  The hydrogen gas and lye are basically irrelevant in determining how many pills they could make.  The real precursor is the "3,000 liters of other raw materials". 

I can tell you that any MDMA precursor they would be using in that quantity has a density of very near 1g/mL.  Assuming they even got close to getting 1g of finished product for every 1g of precursor, which I think is unlikely at that scale, we're talking about 3,000 kilos.  A lot of MDMA for sure.  But not even fucking close to ONE BILLION pills.

To be competitive in the Netherlands right now, you'd really have to be putting like at least 200mg in each pill.  3,000 kilos is 3 million grams.  Three million grams divided into 200mg pills makes 5 pills for every gram.  That's 15 million pills.  Even at 100mg, and I guarantee they are not pressing 100mg pills, that's still "only" 30 million pills. 

How in the fuck do they come up with one billion?  That is the dumbest bullshit I've ever heard.


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Re: chemicals for one billion ecstasy pills seized in the Netherlands [Re: Shpongle1]
    #24088535 - 02/14/17 12:25 AM (3 months, 8 days ago)

Ah, so their lab is actually only capable of producing 15 million pills. That isn't very many.


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Re: chemicals for one billion ecstasy pills seized in the Netherlands [Re: D.M.T]
    #24088565 - 02/14/17 12:35 AM (3 months, 8 days ago)

Obviously its a hell of a lot but its not even 2% of what the article foolishly claims.


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There are more people imprisoned for the commission of drug offenses in the United States - close to 500,000 - than are incarcerated in England, France, Germany, and Japan for all crimes combined.  Examined in another way, the United States has 100,000 more people incarcerated for nonviolent drug offenses than all the countries of the European Union combined, despite the fact that the European Union has 100 million more citizens. :crankey: 

- "Drugs and Drug Policy: The Control of Consciousness Alteration, 2007.


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Re: chemicals for one billion ecstasy pills seized in the Netherlands [Re: Shpongle1] * 4
    #24088888 - 02/14/17 04:21 AM (3 months, 8 days ago)

Maybe its a speed lab and they call it "ecstasy" ?


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It gets better. The original dutch article speaks of 3000 kg hulpstoffen. hulpstoffen are things like solvents and reagents, NOT precursors, and the 3000kg were multiple chemicals.

They seized a truck with no precursors, so it seems.

We call this a "broodje aap verhaal" or "monkey hamburger story", a press release entirely made of nonsense.


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Re: chemicals for one billion ecstasy pills seized in the Netherlands [Re: Asante]
    #24088911 - 02/14/17 04:44 AM (3 months, 8 days ago)

YAY! good news everyone! mdma will remain cheap for now!


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Re: chemicals for one billion ecstasy pills seized in the Netherlands [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #24104553 - 02/20/17 08:09 AM (3 months, 2 days ago)

I think even if it was a billion, I do not think it would affect global or even dutch supply too much


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Re: chemicals for one billion ecstasy pills seized in the Netherlands [Re: UltraLiveResin] * 1
    #24112506 - 02/23/17 03:53 AM (2 months, 30 days ago)

Kinda weird any mass producer would leave a truckload of chemicals abandoned for days. The chemicals mentioned are more consistent with legitimate industrial metal cleaning and processing than drug manufacture.


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Re: chemicals for one billion ecstasy pills seized in the Netherlands [Re: Eywa_devotee] * 2
    #24118940 - 02/25/17 04:17 PM (2 months, 28 days ago)

News just in -Police seized control of a lake full of fresh water, which could have produced up to 1 billion bottles of moonshine.


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