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Ferather
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WL-Tek challenge
#24080106 - 02/10/17 04:37 PM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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Hi everyone, I am looking for people to try my WL-Tek, using small hobby sizes to start. Any comparisons are a bonus. You can use any brand of enrichment, even combinations, if you use different brands please list them.
The challenge is to grow clean mycelium without using high starch or sugar products.
Start with making a small spawn batch from a clone or a few grains.
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Ferather
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Re: WL-Tek challenge [Re: Ferather]
#24080144 - 02/10/17 04:53 PM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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Costs:
Miracle-Gro: £3.95 ($4.93 USD), for 1kg, @ 6g (7.50ml) = 166 cultures of 200g, dry. Yeast Nutrient: £1 ($1.25 USD), for 50g, @ 1g (1.25ml) = 50 cultures of 200g, dry.
Paper Pellets: £11.29 ($14.10 USD), for 30 liters.
Edited by Ferather (04/26/17 01:40 PM)
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Ferather
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Re: WL-Tek challenge [Re: Ferather]
#24080179 - 02/10/17 05:07 PM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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I have ADHD and documentation is, let's say difficult at best. However here is my corner of experiments. Got any questions ask away, I am much better at explaining directly rather than document.
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Re: WL-Tek challenge [Re: Ferather]
#24080984 - 02/10/17 10:03 PM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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Any particular species you're looking for? I have a bit of space and could do a run.
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Ferather
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Anything you like, apparently even cubensis will colonize and pin, see here. However if you try a non-woodloving I would record everything.
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Re: WL-Tek challenge [Re: Ferather]
#24081828 - 02/11/17 09:45 AM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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I plan on running some of your teks side by side with traditional methods here soon.
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Ill try anything twice, but I don't have a microwave. Should just pastuerize? Can I spawn with grain?
Edited by MorePies (02/11/17 09:59 AM)
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Re: WL-Tek challenge [Re: MorePies]
#24081863 - 02/11/17 10:03 AM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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Hahaha I don't have a microwave either, glad I'm not the only one. I'll basically just be testing the paper pellets vs sawdust- I'll try supplemented and un for both, as well as run the Tea Tek for both as well.
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Ferather
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Boiling water should be enough, I only microwave to get it to fluff up, and crumble. Any cooking and cooling method of choosing, even PC if you want to.
You can inoculate with any live mycelium, not spores.
Edit: Unless you use sawdust, then spores work.
Edited by Ferather (02/11/17 12:18 PM)
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Ferather
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Re: WL-Tek challenge [Re: Ferather]
#24082447 - 02/11/17 03:09 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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Here is King oyster @50% on the written recipe, and the container with no mods. You can pressure cook them, just remove the blue tab. All "PP5" plastic.
I like to call them All-In-Ones, no effort, and cheap.

Whitefurze, Model: F1170 (1.22 L).
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Ferather
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Re: WL-Tek challenge [Re: Ferather]
#24082486 - 02/11/17 03:20 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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Forgot to mention, I'm doing 80% water content, see my guide in my signature. Light condensate on the lid, very nice looking, no pools, sides clear.
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Re: WL-Tek challenge [Re: Ferather]
#24083491 - 02/11/17 11:34 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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Alright, I will do some beech and reishi. As luck would have it, I happen to have all the ingredients on hand! Must be fate.
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Ferather
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Here is some information I found on the carbon to nitrogen ratios (25:1) for optimum growth. Also I've uploaded an image of the carbon and nitrate content of wood types.
My current recipe gives you 1% nitrates, which can be doubled.
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Re: WL-Tek challenge [Re: Ferather]
#24084535 - 02/12/17 11:40 AM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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i am interested in trying fertilizer supplementation with hardwood. any idea where to start with how much fert?
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Re: WL-Tek challenge [Re: poponon]
#24084787 - 02/12/17 01:02 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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You can start with the current WL-Tek recipe per 100g of wood pellets. Work your way up to roughly double the amount per 100g.
Wood is acidic, so adding some lime can help.
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Ferather
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Re: WL-Tek challenge [Re: Ferather]
#24084909 - 02/12/17 01:36 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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Sample share
Here is pine pellets, bathed to around pH 7, then enriched.

Paper pellets, 25g dry, enriched.
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Re: WL-Tek challenge [Re: Ferather]
#24085322 - 02/12/17 03:49 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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thankyou for the info ferather. I'd like to do some side by side grows with varying levels of nutrient added. I'll report back once i get this going
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Re: WL-Tek challenge [Re: poponon]
#24086510 - 02/13/17 06:21 AM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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Here is my KO @70%, from infected spawn, grow-up style.

This sample regenerated in 6 hours.
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Ferather
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Re: WL-Tek challenge [Re: Ferather]
#24086513 - 02/13/17 06:23 AM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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I used my toothpick agar transfer method, see my signature.
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Re: WL-Tek challenge [Re: Ferather]
#24086731 - 02/13/17 08:45 AM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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Quote:
Ferather said: Here is some information I found on the carbon to nitrogen ratios (25:1) for optimum growth. Also I've uploaded an image of the carbon and nitrate content of wood types.
My current recipe gives you 1% nitrates, which can be doubled.

That's a link about garden composting and it is not relevant to wood loving mushrooms.
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