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Skipio
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: bodhisatta]
#25370987 - 08/06/18 07:47 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Not even RR documented that or proved it so. Grain of salt I'm going to say you'll see no difference based on my experience growing.
Do you suppose you could be bothered to add an ingredients glossary, featuring claims for (reasons for using) each and the trustworthiness of said claims, to your articles? That would be SUPER helpful!
Thanks man!
PS: Maybe even an FAQ?!
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio]
#25371087 - 08/06/18 08:28 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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just fyi for future reference - a 40 pound bag of pelletized gypsum cost $4.99 at Ace/TruValue hardware and that amount will last a long time. 
but I think you might like this link. 
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: 13shrooms]
#25371154 - 08/06/18 09:06 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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13shrooms said: just fyi for future reference - a 40 pound bag of pelletized gypsum cost $4.99 at Ace/TruValue hardware and that amount will last a long time. 
but I think you might like this link. 
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Excellent. Thank you.
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Skipio
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: 13shrooms]
#25371160 - 08/06/18 09:10 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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13shrooms said: just fyi for future reference - a 40 pound bag of pelletized gypsum cost $4.99 at Ace/TruValue hardware and that amount will last a long time. 
but I think you might like this link. 
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The very first recommendation he gives is that we use gypsum... the very thing people here are saying is useles... so how trustworthy are his recommendations after all?
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio]
#25371180 - 08/06/18 09:17 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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heres the deal, in this hobby the size of grow is on the uber small scale so a change in yield wouldnt be noticeable BUt if you have a large mushroom farm on a commercial scale I bet it a very noticeable difference in yields, especially if its even a 10% raise. if ya catch what Im laying down.
ch is very trustworthy that what the trusted cultivator tag means.
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: 13shrooms]
#25371224 - 08/06/18 09:37 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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13shrooms said: heres the deal, in this hobby the size of grow is on the uber small scale so a change in yield wouldnt be noticeable BUt if you have a large mushroom farm on a commercial scale I bet it a very noticeable difference in yields, especially if its even a 10% raise. if ya catch what Im laying down.
ch is very trustworthy that what the trusted cultivator tag means. 
You know, with all due respect (and, of course, respect is due any TC), Trusted Cultivators differ on things. Bod, over here, flatly denied RR's claim concerning gypsum, so...
Also, concerning whether 10% could be "appreciable", would I be wrong to say that that would be up to each individual person devoting their own time and money to the art and craft of farming fungi? I for one would appreciate even a 10% yield increase. I really would. It's my energy and money and time I've put into this project. I have sacrificed a lot already and I haven't even gotten a harvest yet. Maybe I'm just ranting/complaining.
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio]
#25371543 - 08/07/18 02:42 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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thats all fine and dandy but a 10% increase in yield from 1 monotub or even a shotgunFC full of pf tek cakes would only be a few extra mushrooms as to where a commercial farm 10% would be extra pounds. relatively speaking.
if your sacrificing just learning the process then you are over thinking this whole deal, its not hard. maybe a lil overwhelming at first because you arent sure about whats the best bang for your buck.. if you have a pressure cooker then grain spawn to coir via bods coir monotub is your best bet, if you dont have a pc then you need to do pf tek cakes, you can fruit those or crumble them and use them as spawn. either way you just got to be hands on and you will see what is best for your needs.
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio]
#25371545 - 08/07/18 02:45 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Skipio said: Trusted Cultivators differ on things.
that should tell you that this whole thing is not an exact science and that there are way more than one way to skin a cat.  cus none of the TCs are wrong.
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: 13shrooms]
#25371564 - 08/07/18 03:05 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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13shrooms said: thats all fine and dandy but a 10% increase in yield from 1 monotub or even a shotgunFC full of pf tek cakes would only be a few extra mushrooms as to where a commercial farm 10% would be extra pounds.
For someone who intends to microdose even a few would be substantial and "appreciable"--a few more would mean a lot more slack (in terms of time).
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13shrooms said: if your sacrificing just learning the process then you are over thinking this whole deal, its not hard. maybe a lil overwhelming at first because you arent sure about whats the best bang for your buck..
I don't have endless funds, so every purchase (not including the equipment I'd already had, I've already spent >$300 for my very basic setup) is a sacrifice; I (and, being that I am the person judging the matter in my own life, this is important) also consider the amount of mental focus and time I've spent to be verging on regretful.
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13shrooms said: cus none of the TCs are wrong. 
I respect TCs, but I don't lose my mind in the process. LOL
Thanks
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Diastamasta
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: bodhisatta]
#25374851 - 08/08/18 11:55 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: a regular bucket works just fine, I just feel better about the coir staying hot as fuck over night. I've checked the water cooler hours later and it's still above 160F even. that's in a room temperature room.
if you skip the pre-heat step then it will be like 130-140 a few hours later
Does the lid screw on or just friction fit. Any issues with the pressure popping the lid open?
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Diastamasta]
#25375042 - 08/08/18 01:13 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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I cut a vent hole in my lids and covered in micropore tape because my first bucket imploded. sucked itself into a crushed popcan look. but now I just dont seal the lid down 100%.
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Diastamasta]
#25375154 - 08/08/18 02:13 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Diastamasta said:
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bodhisatta said: a regular bucket works just fine, I just feel better about the coir staying hot as fuck over night. I've checked the water cooler hours later and it's still above 160F even. that's in a room temperature room.
if you skip the pre-heat step then it will be like 130-140 a few hours later
Does the lid screw on or just friction fit. Any issues with the pressure popping the lid open?
I use one of those orange water coolers to make my coir, and the lid is friction fit. Never had an issue with the lid popping off before. I checked on a batch today after ~13 hours using this tek, and it was still at 96 degrees and felt very warm to the touch.
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: flyhighfunguy]
#25375167 - 08/08/18 02:21 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Never crunched or broke my cooler
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: bodhisatta]
#25375879 - 08/08/18 07:58 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was using a $3 Lowes 5gal bucket
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: 13shrooms]
#25384435 - 08/12/18 08:01 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Could I use wbs to spawn with your bucket tek instead of oats?
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Ldowdy]
#25384487 - 08/12/18 08:40 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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use whatever spawn you want, doesnt matter
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: 13shrooms]
#25384500 - 08/12/18 08:46 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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13shrooms said: use whatever spawn you want, doesnt matter 
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: bodhisatta]
#25395323 - 08/17/18 09:48 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Luv the AF TEKs. Tonite my cooler was borrowed so I used a 5 gal bucket and then used a larger container (approximately 6"larger ID and 6" in diameter). I wadded sheets of newspaper in placed then in the bottom of the container, then placed the bucket in the container and then wadded individual newspaper sheets and tightly stuffed them around the bucket. For the lid I used foil and then placed and pot lid on the foil. Wahe A heat transfer limiting device with a removal insert. Using the TEK above, at the 70 minute stirring time the temp was 169F. This 'cooler' Tek could be adapted to a cardboard box.
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Ziran]
#25398959 - 08/19/18 04:29 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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hello. so I may be a bit dumb.... can u give me this in a "cup" ratio? having trouble understanding. got a big bag of coir, need to have it broke down into how many cups of coir, vermiculite, and coffee. should I use coffee grounds that were used? if so, should I dry them out first? how much? gonna use a big cooler, camping size cooler. not sure how big. and do you recommend soaking the bags that the spawn are in first? they are colonized. don't want to kill them. do I just take them out and spread them on top of substrate once I figure out how much of everything it is? got 3 bags, little bags. they are amazing, all fluffy white. am loving doing this. my first time.
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Natasha826]
#25399617 - 08/19/18 10:02 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Volume isn't a good measurement because density isn't always the same. Either way my measurements are an approximation you'll still need to judge your own moisture content. Not everyone gets the same coir etc..
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