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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio]
    #25320851 - 07/11/18 04:13 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

What? Everyone in this forum grows drugs.

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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: nube424] * 1
    #25321457 - 07/11/18 09:41 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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What? Everyone in this forum grows drugs.




You must be thinking of some other forum? :dafuq:


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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25328350 - 07/15/18 06:08 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: BatchScript]
    #25355994 - 07/30/18 01:40 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

Would there be a reason we couldn't use a 2 (instead of a 5) gallon insulated container?

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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio]
    #25356010 - 07/30/18 01:53 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

I can pretty much use any sealed container, insulated is even better. As long as it fits once hydrated. Remember coir expands. 2 gal will be cutting it close but should work fine. I've used a cooler that size.

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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: nube424]
    #25356176 - 07/30/18 03:22 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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I can pretty much use any sealed container, insulated is even better. As long as it fits once hydrated. Remember coir expands. 2 gal will be cutting it close but should work fine. I've used a cooler that size.



Got it.

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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio]
    #25370042 - 08/06/18 11:56 AM (5 years, 7 months ago)

Bod,
You say we don't need to add gypsum to the coir, and it evidently can be done without gypsum (the pics show it--and even possibly show greater yields without gypsum), but is there any advantage to including gypsum in the coir at all? I'm trying to decide whether I will be buying some gypsum.

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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio]
    #25370045 - 08/06/18 11:58 AM (5 years, 7 months ago)

It adds calcium and sulfur if you're deficient in it add some.

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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25370065 - 08/06/18 12:13 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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It adds calcium and sulfur if you're deficient in it add some.



LOL Well, yeah, but how am I supposed to know whether the coir (Eco Earth in this case--Grow!t was too difficult to find at a reasonable price) using is deficient specifically in Ca and S?

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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio]
    #25370126 - 08/06/18 12:39 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

mushrooms use calcium and sulphur as building blocks for growth.   

only bad thing is if you use too much and you get a block of cement.  but it takes alot  lol

Ive used it with and without.  I see no noticeable differences.  :shrug:


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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio]
    #25370162 - 08/06/18 12:58 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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It adds calcium and sulfur if you're deficient in it add some.



LOL Well, yeah, but how am I supposed to know whether the coir (Eco Earth in this case--Grow!t was too difficult to find at a reasonable price) using is deficient specifically in Ca and S?



I'm guessing the spawn grain is more than full of enough of both for the fungi

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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25370211 - 08/06/18 01:19 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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Ive used it with and without.  I see no noticeable differences.  :shrug:




Which is confusing, since...
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Gypsum can provide up to a 25% increase in harvest weight over not using it in bulk substrates.
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio]
    #25370252 - 08/06/18 01:42 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

it can..  with a proven isolated monoculture, not starting with spores..  :bonghit2:

its very rare that an experienced grower starts with spores. 

you have to do a lil agar work to find that yield..  then you can compare b4 and afters.  there are billions of genetic combinations when you start with spores that its not a valid side by side..  :smirk:


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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: 13shrooms]
    #25370270 - 08/06/18 01:49 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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it can..  with a proven isolated monoculture, not starting with spores..  :bonghit2:

its very rare that an experienced grower starts with spores. 

you have to do a lil agar work to find that yield..  then you can compare b4 and afters.  there are billions of genetic combinations when you start with spores that its not a valid side by side..  :smirk:



How much of the "25% yield increase" is from gypsum vs using an isolate?

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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: 13shrooms]
    #25370283 - 08/06/18 01:53 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

13shrooms,
Just trying to figure out whether I should use my (limited) funds on gypsum, that's all.

Thanks

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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio]
    #25370293 - 08/06/18 02:01 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

No don't waste ur money. Spend that money on more grain.

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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: nube424]
    #25370311 - 08/06/18 02:09 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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No don't waste ur money. Spend that money on more grain.



Thanks.
I bought a 50lb bag of oats, so I think I'll be good with oats for a while.

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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio]
    #25370417 - 08/06/18 03:27 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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Ive used it with and without.  I see no noticeable differences.  :shrug:




Which is confusing, since...
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Gypsum can provide up to a 25% increase in harvest weight over not using it in bulk substrates.
RR






Not even RR documented that or proved it so. Grain of salt
I'm going to say you'll see no difference based on my experience growing.

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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25370574 - 08/06/18 04:50 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25370910 - 08/06/18 07:16 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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bodhisatta said:
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Ive used it with and without.  I see no noticeable differences.  :shrug:




Which is confusing, since...
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RogerRabbit said:
Gypsum can provide up to a 25% increase in harvest weight over not using it in bulk substrates.
RR






Not even RR documented that or proved it so. Grain of salt
I'm going to say you'll see no difference based on my experience growing.



I had seen the pics demonstrating the outcomes of your grows with varying substrates (coir vs cvg, etc) and I had seen that coir (solo) had actually (from what I could tell) outperformed cvg.

Thanks alot! Really money saving advice!

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