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Dr. Freeman
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio]
#25320021 - 07/11/18 07:15 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dr. Freeman said: LC is liquid Culture. Check my LC tek: Easiest Liquid Culture for the incredibly lazy LI is Liquid Inoculant
I really worry about contaminants. What is your best advice on the matter? I've read about laminar flow hoods, but I'd like some more advice. I don't want to waste my money or my time (to contaminants).
I use a cheap SAB (Still Air BOX) and agar with great success. I would like a flow hood for extra comfort, but SAB and clean procedures is all you really need.
Read these links. Work in a SAB: SpitballJedi's SAB and Easy AF SAB TEK (Sterile Technique, Avoid Contamination) Use agar: Why You Should Really Start With Agar and Agar TEK's Including Bod's Easy AF Comprehensive Agar TEK
Working with agar inside a SAB is super easy and sooo rewarding! Try it.
Edited by Dr. Freeman (07/11/18 07:17 AM)
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Skipio
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Dr. Freeman]
#25320026 - 07/11/18 07:18 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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nube424 said: G2g is for lazy peeps too.
And stop with these questions. We can't hold ur hand. READ thru teks.
I've been reading, but I feel like I'm missing something and I had hoped that I'd find it by asking.
Will keep reading.
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Dr. Freeman said:
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Skipio said:
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Dr. Freeman said: LC is liquid Culture. Check my LC tek: Easiest Liquid Culture for the incredibly lazy LI is Liquid Inoculant
I really worry about contaminants. What is your best advice on the matter? I've read about laminar flow hoods, but I'd like some more advice. I don't want to waste my money or my time (to contaminants).
I use a cheap SAB (Still Air BOX) and agar with great success. I would like a flow hood for extra comfort, but SAB and clean procedures is all you really need.
Read these links. Work in a SAB: SpitballJedi's SAB and Easy AF SAB TEK (Sterile Technique, Avoid Contamination) Use agar: Why You Should Really Start With Agar and Agar TEK's Including Bod's Easy AF Comprehensive Agar TEK
Working with agar inside a SAB is super easy and sooo rewarding! Try it.
That's good news.
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Skipio
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: bodhisatta]
#25320030 - 07/11/18 07:21 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said:
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Skipio said:
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Dr. Freeman said: LC is liquid Culture. Check my LC tek: Easiest Liquid Culture for the incredibly lazy LI is Liquid Inoculant
What is your best advice on contaminants? I've read about laminar flow hoods, but I'd like some more advice.
That question is so vague.
Glad you enjoyed it.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio]
#25320033 - 07/11/18 07:22 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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The only advice to give is contaminants can't get in your sterile work/media/spawn. You need to do and practice to get any good at it.
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Skipio
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: bodhisatta]
#25320038 - 07/11/18 07:27 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: The only advice to give is contaminants can't get in your sterile work/media/spawn. You need to do and practice to get any good at it.
Much appreciated.
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nube424


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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: bodhisatta]
#25320039 - 07/11/18 07:28 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yea that's why ur missing things when u read. U need some experience under ur belt to really understand everything ur reading. Just give it a try. If u fuck up, try and try again. That's how we all learned. U WILL have failures. We all do and still do sometimes.
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Skipio
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: nube424]
#25320043 - 07/11/18 07:29 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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nube424 said: Yea that's why ur missing things when u read. U need some experience under ur belt to really understand everything ur reading. Just give it a try. If u fuck up, try and try again. That's how we all learned. U WILL have failures. We all do and still do sometimes.
Very good. Thank you.
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nube424


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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio]
#25320052 - 07/11/18 07:35 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Click on bods name and read all his teks. He's not the friendliest sometimes but he knows his shit and does great write ups that are up to date. None of that old school cultivation shit. U can find everything u need by just clicking on his name
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Skipio
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: nube424]
#25320055 - 07/11/18 07:40 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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nube424 said: Click on bods name and read all his teks. He's not the friendliest sometimes but he knows his shit and does great write ups that are up to date. None of that old school cultivation shit. U can find everything u need by just clicking on his name 
I've been reading his stuff, and have appreciated how he has tried to simplify getting a grasp on the material.
Thanks
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nube424


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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio]
#25320074 - 07/11/18 08:01 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gave u a rating Scorpio! Best advise we can give is pick a simple teak to get started with and just follow it to a t. I'm biased, I feel bulk is easier that pf tek which is why we can't really tell u what to do. Pick the one most pleasing to u, but if u have a pressure cooker I highly suggest a wbs trek with polyfil filters (cuz it's easy) and mixing it (spawning) to coir as your bulk ingredient. U can try syringe straight to grain if u get the syringe from a good vendor. Success will not be guaranteed but u can get one batch growing just to learn from.
While that's growing, make some agar and germinate spores on agar so u can learn that and get mycelium started for ur next grow.
Id suggest looking up pretty much any wbs tek, bods easy af agar tek, this coir tek, (or Frank's) and body's modified mono write up. Imo simplest easiest way to a nice grow.
And get a common strain to start if u don't already have spores.
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Skipio
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: nube424]
#25320080 - 07/11/18 08:12 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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nube424 said: Gave u a rating Scorpio!
I'll give you a rating after I've reached 50 posts. 
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nube424 said: Best advise we can give is pick a simple teak to get started with and just follow it to a t.
Sounds reasonable.
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nube424 said:I'm biased, I feel bulk is easier that pf tek which is why we can't really tell u what to do.
"Work smarter not harder."
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nube424 said:Pick the one most pleasing to u, but if u have a pressure cooker I highly suggest a wbs trek with polyfil filters (cuz it's easy) and mixing it (spawning) to coir as your bulk ingredient.
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nube424 said:U can try syringe straight to grain if u get the syringe from a good vendor. Success will not be guaranteed but u can get one batch growing just to learn from.
What might your opinion of the Golden Teacher syringe from readtherules.com be?
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nube424 said:While that's growing, make some agar and germinate spores on agar so u can learn that and get mycelium started for ur next grow.
Solid.
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nube424 said:Id suggest looking up pretty much any wbs tek, bods easy af agar tek, this coir tek, (or Frank's) and body's modified mono write up. Imo simplest easiest way to a nice grow.
And get a common strain to start if u don't already have spores.
Thanks for your willingness to help.
Edited by bodhisatta (07/11/18 08:28 AM)
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nube424


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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio]
#25320098 - 07/11/18 08:27 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've never ordered from them but idk if they're a sponsor or not? We're not supposed to put their names up here. But u can trust pretty much everyone on the vendor list. I've always used spores from the *****
And the most important thing u need to learn when starting out, is moisture content. Obviously each different ingredient needs a different field capacity. Grains should be al dente and coir should feel slightly damp, and barely drip when u squeeze it hard and it should fluff back up when u release it.
my head hurts. Need to go have a smoke. U got it man. Just pick a strain. And get in the cult pics of the day thread. U can learn a lot of dos and donts from that thread
Edited by bodhisatta (07/11/18 08:28 AM)
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Skipio
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: nube424]
#25320133 - 07/11/18 08:37 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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nube424 said: I've never ordered from them but idk if they're a sponsor or not? We're not supposed to put their names up here. But u can trust pretty much everyone on the vendor list. I've always used spores from the *****
And the most important thing u need to learn when starting out, is moisture content. Obviously each different ingredient needs a different field capacity. Grains should be al dente and coir should feel slightly damp, and barely drip when u squeeze it hard and it should fluff back up when u release it.
my head hurts. Need to go have a smoke. U got it man. Just pick a strain. And get in the cult pics of the day thread. U can learn a lot of dos and donts from that thread
 I figured just following the Tek, tweaking along the way, would be sufficient regarding the grains (you'd mentioned "al dente").
Yeah, I've seen videos and read explanations regarding "field capacity".
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nube424


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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio]
#25320142 - 07/11/18 08:41 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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U got this then. Time to get started. Pretty much everything can be found at Walmart tho. Or pretty much any store like it.
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pixelpopper
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio]
#25320146 - 07/11/18 08:43 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Skipio said:
I figured just following the Tek, tweaking along the way, would be sufficient regarding the grains (you'd mentioned "al dente").
When it comes down to it, there's not really any starter questions that aren't already answered in the basic texts/teks here.
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Skipio
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: nube424]
#25320149 - 07/11/18 08:44 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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nube424 said: U got this then. Time to get started. Pretty much everything can be found at Walmart tho. Or pretty much any store like it.
Thanks.
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Dr. Freeman
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio]
#25320405 - 07/11/18 10:49 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Skipio said: What might your opinion of the Golden Teacher syringe from readtherules.com be?
My first successful growth was from a Golden Teacher syringe bought from read.the.rules.com and was very pleased with the results. It's a popular and well domesticated variety. Any cube would do just fine.
My suggested plan of action is Spores > Agar > LC > Grain. Spores > Agar > Grain works just fine. Spores > grain is riskier. You could end up with a lot of contaminated and useless spawn. You need to learn agar, SAB and G2G (grain to grain transfer). If you do Spores > Grain, start small (half pint jar) and see if you don't have any contamination, then do G2G.
Small jar goes into bigger jar or bag (All inside SAB)   Once you have enough spawn, mix with coir.
This is the result of 4Q oats into 4Q coir.

 I recommend OATS, it's so simple, very cheap and hard to screw up.
Also, if you are going to use grains, you'll need modified lids.
 
Post edit: I also recommend starting a post of your project, with pictures and dates, detailing your methods so you can get input from more experienced growers.
Edited by Dr. Freeman (07/11/18 10:53 AM)
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Skipio
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Dr. Freeman] 1
#25320686 - 07/11/18 02:01 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dr. Freeman said:
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Skipio said: What might your opinion of the Golden Teacher syringe from readtherules.com be?
My first successful growth was from a Golden Teacher syringe bought from read.the.rules.com and was very pleased with the results. It's a popular and well domesticated variety. Any cube would do just fine.
This is the result of 4Q oats into 4Q coir. ... I recommend OATS, it's so simple, very cheap and hard to screw up.
Also, if you are going to use grains, you'll need modified lids.
Post edit: I also recommend starting a post of your project, with pictures and dates, detailing your methods so you can get input from more experienced growers.
The picture is, for scaling reasons, quite helpful. I never said I would grow anything; I know someone who may, and I could help them document their activities for the purpose you mentioned.
Edited by Skipio (07/11/18 02:12 PM)
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Dr. Freeman
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio]
#25320746 - 07/11/18 02:47 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Skipio said: The picture is, for scaling reasons, quite helpful. I never said I would grow anything; I know someone who may, and I could help them document their activities for the purpose you mentioned.
Yes, don't grow illegal drugs buddy. Good call.
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Skipio
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elementary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Dr. Freeman]
#25320772 - 07/11/18 03:04 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dr. Freeman said:
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Skipio said: The picture is, for scaling reasons, quite helpful. I never said I would grow anything; I know someone who may, and I could help them document their activities for the purpose you mentioned.
Yes, don't grow illegal drugs buddy. Good call.
Well, it's best to do what one can to stay above board.
I'm thinking they'll be legal soon. There're way too many therapeutic effects (we don't need to get in to that discussion here), and too many people are using them to those ends. There are all these articles constantly being published in mainstream magazines in which people are detailing their microdosing experiments--and I've never seen one negative trip report, only very very good ones.
Those times will be times for cultivating one's own Cubensis mushrooms--or, perhaps, buying them at a convenience store--but, unfortunately, for the time being, it would seem we are stuck with rules which have been made during a time in which our Republic was apparently not being run, as we have all been led to believe it ought to have been being run, either by or for "We, The People". In the not too distant future, I could see this mistake being rectified.
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