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 nube424
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 Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050)  [Re: naturalistic123]
#25288824 - 06/24/18 07:37 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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How do people have the patience and energy for cakes? Props to u man. Idk how people do it. Too much work and ingredients for me. I use bird seed and coir. No mas nada
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audiosnipez
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: nube424]
#25301469 - 06/30/18 06:18 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Got a 5 gallon bucket and lid for $6 bucks at ace
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Skipio
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: audiosnipez]
#25319830 - 07/11/18 02:30 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Especially if using only a fraction of the recipe, could someone not sub a 10qt PC for the 5gal--just start with boiling water, throw coir bricks in, then keep it at just below simmering overnight?
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Skipio
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio]
#25319870 - 07/11/18 03:33 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Are either of these the right coir?
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nube424
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio] 1
#25319922 - 07/11/18 05:07 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I use Eco earth bricks. And why would u simmer overnight? If u pour boiling water over coir it absorbs it within like 10 minutes. If u want the bucket to hold temp longer, just wrap the bucket in a thick blanket after u put the top on. It'll still be hot 4 hours later.
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bodhisatta  
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio] 2
#25319923 - 07/11/18 05:10 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Skipio said:
Especially if using only a fraction of the recipe, could someone not sub a 10qt PC for the 5gal--just start with boiling water, throw coir bricks in, then keep it at just below simmering overnight?
If you want to burn your house down this might work.
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Skipio
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: bodhisatta]
#25319944 - 07/11/18 05:49 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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1. Somehow, this seems a bit askew of my intended goal.
2. So were either of those proper coirs? If not, would you please share a link to the one you recommend?
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Skipio
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio]
#25319947 - 07/11/18 05:54 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I am sure I am to blame for what I believe was a misunderstanding, but I wasn't asking about pressure cooking the coir all night long; I was asking on behalf of a person who might not have (or want to use) a large plastic container--couldn't a PC do what the 5gal is doing here?
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Skipio
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: nube424]
#25319949 - 07/11/18 05:56 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks. Maybe that is a better solution. 
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nube424
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio]
#25319953 - 07/11/18 05:58 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yes u can boil water in ur pc, put the coir in and turn off the heat. Don't simmer it tho. Some people use coolers too.
And I only use Eco earth. I'm pretty sure coir is coir as long as it's shredded. Don't get the chunky bark stuff. For ur in the US just drive to a pet store. They have coco bricks for lizard bedding.
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Skipio
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: nube424]
#25319956 - 07/11/18 06:02 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Alright.
I appreciate the discussion.
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nube424
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio]
#25319964 - 07/11/18 06:12 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Any time man.
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Skipio
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: nube424]
#25319969 - 07/11/18 06:22 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've read that the more inoculant (assuming, of course, consistent quality--I don't want to introduce that variable, since there is nothing along those lines I'm hoping to ascertain) that is used the faster substrates are colonized.
Couldn't it simplify matters to just break a fully colonized monotub up and use that to inoculate other monotubs?
Is there some mycological law that would prevent someone from multiplying their mycelium indefinitely by simply breaking fully colonized monotubs up and using them to colonize still more monotubs?
Edited by Skipio (07/11/18 06:30 AM)
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nube424
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio]
#25319980 - 07/11/18 06:31 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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No. Bulk substrates are already depleted of most nutrients and it's not a clean culture anymore. G2g is how u can cleanly expand mycelium. Lc and li work too, but I feel g2g is where u should start as a beginner. 1 qt can be expanded to 10 qts. So if u have 5 colonized qts of grain, u can expand that 10x to 50 qts. Then spawn your grains to a bulk ingredient.
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Skipio
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: nube424]
#25319982 - 07/11/18 06:34 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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nube424 said:
No. Bulk substrates are already depleted of most nutrients and it's not a clean culture anymore. G2g is how u can cleanly expand mycelium. Lc and li work too, but I feel g2g is where u should start as a beginner. 1 qt can be expanded to 10 qts. So if u have 5 colonized qts of grain, u can expand that 10x to 50 qts. Then spawn your grains to a bulk ingredient.
Thank you.
Assuming G2G is "grain to grain"?
What are Lc and li?
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 Dr. Freeman
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 Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio]
#25319985 - 07/11/18 06:37 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Skipio said:
I've read that the more inoculant (assuming, of course, consistent quality) that is used the faster substrates (eg, oat) are colonized.
Couldn't it simplify matters to just break a fully colonized monotub up and use that to inoculate other monotubs?
Is there some mycological law that would prevent someone from multiplying their mycelium indefinitely by simply breaking fully colonized monotubs up and using that to colonize still more monotubs?
Not a good idea.
Fungal Senescence would prevent you from even doing grain to grain transfer indefinitely, as the mycelium gets older.
Your idea about breaking a colonized monotub has one other flaw: the amount of grain per tub.
Lets say you use 4 quarts of spawn (grain) and 5 quarts of substrate (coco coir) for your original monotub.
Split that in two. Your resulting monotub will only have 2 quarts of grain.
The next one will have 1 quart of grains in 5 quarts of substrate.
The amount of grain (nutrition) per monotub is a big factor when it comes to yield.
LC is liquid Culture. Check my LC tek: Easiest Liquid Culture for the incredibly lazy
LI is Liquid Inoculant
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Skipio
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Dr. Freeman]
#25319989 - 07/11/18 06:41 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
nube424 said:
No. Bulk substrates are already depleted of most nutrients and it's not a clean culture anymore. G2g is how u can cleanly expand mycelium. Lc and li work too, but I feel g2g is where u should start as a beginner. 1 qt can be expanded to 10 qts. So if u have 5 colonized qts of grain, u can expand that 10x to 50 qts. Then spawn your grains to a bulk ingredient.
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Dr. Freeman said:
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Skipio said:
I've read that the more inoculant (assuming, of course, consistent quality) that is used the faster substrates (eg, oat) are colonized.
Couldn't it simplify matters to just break a fully colonized monotub up and use that to inoculate other monotubs?
Is there some mycological law that would prevent someone from multiplying their mycelium indefinitely by simply breaking fully colonized monotubs up and using that to colonize still more monotubs?
Not a good idea.
Fungal Senescence would prevent you from even doing grain to grain transfer indefinitely, as the mycelium gets older.
Your idea about breaking a colonized monotub has one other flaw: the amount of grain per tub.
Lets say you use 4 quarts of spawn (grain) and 5 quarts of substrate (coco coir) for your original monotub.
Split that in two. Your resulting monotub will only have 2 quarts of grain.
The next one will have 1 quart of grains in 5 quarts of substrate.
The amount of grain (nutrition) per monotub is a big factor when it comes to yield.
LC is liquid Culture. Check my LC tek: Easiest Liquid Culture for the incredibly lazy
LI is Liquid Inoculant
1. It sounds like it is a bad idea then.
2. "Lazy"? I like the sound of that.
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Skipio
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Dr. Freeman]
#25319992 - 07/11/18 06:45 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Dr. Freeman said:
LC is liquid Culture. Check my LC tek: Easiest Liquid Culture for the incredibly lazy
LI is Liquid Inoculant
What is your best advice on contaminants? I've read about laminar flow hoods, but I'd like some more advice.
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bodhisatta
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: Skipio]
#25320004 - 07/11/18 07:04 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Skipio said:
Quote:
Dr. Freeman said:
LC is liquid Culture. Check my LC tek: Easiest Liquid Culture for the incredibly lazy
LI is Liquid Inoculant
What is your best advice on contaminants? I've read about laminar flow hoods, but I'd like some more advice.
That question is so vague.
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nube424
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Re: BOD's Bucket TEK for Coir substrate (an adaptation of the elemantary coir tek by Damion5050) [Re: bodhisatta]
#25320014 - 07/11/18 07:12 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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G2g is for lazy peeps too.
And stop with these questions. We can't hold ur hand. READ thru teks.
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