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NubeEnLaMontana
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possible blue-green mold in my grain jars
#9141487 - 10/27/08 11:27 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey all,
Last night after spreading the first layer of pasteurized substrate into my brand new monotub and shaking the shit out of my 5 quarts of fully colonized whole field (feed) corn, I noticed the corn didnt exactly look the way I thought it should. Prior to shaking, the jars looked perfect. After shaking, many kernels visible at or near the top of the jars appeared to have a blue-green discoloration. Unfortunately the coloring was subtle enough that I couldnt really tell if it was blue, blue-green, or gray. It was the same in each of the jars.
I opted instead to spawn to the substrate 3 quarts of colonized wbs I had intended to case individually.
These corn jars were inoculated g2g from wbs in a still air box. The remaining grain in the source jar was cased in the same session, and later contamed with thick, aggressive white mycelium which turned blue-green. Needless to say, that casing is no longer with us...
So my question is this: Is what Ive described in the corn jars consistant with a contamination by trich or other blue-greens? If so, I would expect to see these discolored kernels get greener and fuzzier in the next few days... Right?
Sorry about the lack of pics. I can throw some up tomorrow if theres any doubt after my description.
And you can take my post count as an accurate reflection of my cultivation experience.
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MHbound
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Re: possible blue-green mold in my grain jars [Re: NubeEnLaMontana]
#9141520 - 10/27/08 11:36 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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a Picture would be nice, but depending on how far it has colonized it could be bruising.
A picture would really be the only way to help, but you said you see some gray, and that doesn't resemble bruising. Get some pictures up like you said, and I think you will get better answers.
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NubeEnLaMontana
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Re: possible blue-green mold in my grain jars [Re: MHbound]
#9141573 - 10/27/08 11:52 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks MHB. I'll get pics tonight.
In the meantime, how would you expect the discolored areas to progress if it was A) bruising, or B) contam?
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MHbound
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Re: possible blue-green mold in my grain jars [Re: NubeEnLaMontana]
#9141612 - 10/27/08 12:04 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bruising it won't spread, unless you bang it around some more causing more bruising. If it is a contam it will spread probably over night.
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solumvita
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Re: possible blue-green mold in my grain jars [Re: NubeEnLaMontana]
#9147042 - 10/28/08 08:58 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
NubeEnLaMontana said: These corn jars were inoculated g2g from wbs in a still air box. The remaining grain in the source jar was cased in the same session, and later contamed with thick, aggressive white mycelium which turned blue-green. Needless to say, that casing is no longer with us...
Are you saying that the corn jars were incoculated from wbs that contaminated, after inoculating the corn jars. How long after casing did the wbs contaminate? And what is the period between you tossing the cased wbs and using the corn jars?
Sorry last question, what do the corn jars look like now?
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NubeEnLaMontana
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Re: possible blue-green mold in my grain jars [Re: MHbound]
#9147053 - 10/28/08 09:00 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I took some pictures, but they weren't worth uploading... I couldn't get a clear shot through the jar, and I didn't want to take the lid off.
For the most part, the discoloration has faded. What is left is undeniably blue. My impartial girlfriend inspected them and pronounced that she didn't see anything that looked like green. I believe the gray tinge I was seeing was due to the semi-translucent (if such a descriptor exists) background on parts of the kernel.
Anyway, I'm not celebrating yet, but I'm optimistic. If they do turn out alright, I'll be a little miffed that I didn't get them into my compost the other night... But I guess I'll get over it.
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NubeEnLaMontana
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Re: possible blue-green mold in my grain jars [Re: solumvita]
#9147101 - 10/28/08 09:14 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
solumvita said:
Are you saying that the corn jars were incoculated from wbs that contaminated, after inoculating the corn jars. How long after casing did the wbs contaminate? And what is the period between you tossing the cased wbs and using the corn jars?
Sorry last question, what do the corn jars look like now?
That's exactly what I'm saying. I noticed the contam after the casing had mostly colonized and gone into the FC. I thought it was getting ready to pin, but then my white turned green. I tossed the casing maybe 2 days prior to my original post, after a half-hearted attempt at halting the spread of the contam using salt paste.
I should also note that a single corn jar from this same transfer contamed within several days of being inoculated (over a week ago). This was evidenced by a single green fuzzy kernel at the top of the jar. I suspect that points towards an airborne spore, rather than a g2g'd contam.
See my last post for the current state of the corn.
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Re: possible blue-green mold in my grain jars [Re: NubeEnLaMontana]
#24069020 - 02/06/17 02:58 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have similar concerns
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dankdun
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Re: possible blue-green mold in my grain jars [Re: dankdun]
#24069022 - 02/06/17 03:00 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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dankdun
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Re: possible blue-green mold in my grain jars [Re: dankdun]
#24069030 - 02/06/17 03:14 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mad Season
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Re: possible blue-green mold in my grain jars [Re: dankdun]
#24069656 - 02/06/17 11:29 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Damn you opened that? Shit is moldy AF!
Also instead of bumping an 8 year old thread, make your own next time!
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NothingsChanged
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Re: possible blue-green mold in my grain jars [Re: Mad Season]
#24073430 - 02/07/17 07:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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is that an air stone on the jar lid?
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