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Re: Anarchists, Antifa, and the Black Bloc -- get behind the scary masks [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #24071090 - 02/06/17 11:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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You are going to sit here and say it isn't cowardice to go around destroying property wearing a mask?

I don't care how you rationalize it.  The only thing you are trying to do is avoid getting caught because you don't want to be held accountable for your behavior.



I support property destruction as a valid tactic, but I can't say I support every occasion of it. If you want my completely honest opinion, I am uncertain of how much value is gained from the property destruction that was committed by the black bloc at the inauguration. This type of property destruction is mostly symbolic. On the other hand, I fully support the property destruction that prevented Milo from speaking at Berkeley. That had the direct effect of shutting down his platform that night, and I believe the harm his speech would have caused to have been the greater ill.

I do not expect you to accept this rationalization, because to you the State has a monopoly on violence. Only the State is allowed to rationalize violence. Anarchists do not accept that premise, no one has the right to threaten our community with violence. We reject the right of the government and police--who have more in common with fascists than they do with us--to decide for us when fascists have crossed the line from merely expressing themselves into posing an immediate threat. We will not abdicate our freedom to judge when and how to defend ourselves.

You don't have to accept it, but understand it. You won't be shaming us out of acting.


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Re: Anarchists, Antifa, and the Black Bloc -- get behind the scary masks [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
    #24071098 - 02/06/17 11:58 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

You lost me as "I support property destruction".

Enjoy prison, terrorist.


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Re: Anarchists, Antifa, and the Black Bloc -- get behind the scary masks [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 2
    #24071103 - 02/07/17 12:00 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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You are going to sit here and say it isn't cowardice to go around destroying property wearing a mask?

I don't care how you rationalize it.  The only thing you are trying to do is avoid getting caught because you don't want to be held accountable for your behavior.



I support property destruction as a valid tactic




I support killing those that endanger lives through their rioting. there could be a
reason we dont have riots like that in the south. lots of people hold the same view

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This type of property destruction is mostly symbolic. On the other hand, I fully support the property destruction that prevented Milo from speaking at Berkeley.





so you do not support free speech but you support costing private citizens money
and livelihoods. how is this anarchism and not simply fascism


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Re: Anarchists, Antifa, and the Black Bloc -- get behind the scary masks [Re: Senor_Doobie] * 1
    #24071102 - 02/07/17 12:00 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Wtf is antifa




You've been defending thi shit for days and you don't even know what Antifa is?



I haven't been defending anything. I don't really give a shit. I just think it's funny how obsessed you people are with a bunch of college students. College students are immature idiots. They do the same thing when their sports teams win or lose or when their pedophile protecting football coach is fired. Nobody really cares outside of your little alt right cult.



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Re: Anarchists, Antifa, and the Black Bloc -- get behind the scary masks [Re: Senor_Doobie] * 1
    #24071109 - 02/07/17 12:02 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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You lost me as "I support property destruction".

Enjoy prison, terrorist.



Do you consider Samual Adams and the Sons of Liberty to have been terrorists too?



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Re: Anarchists, Antifa, and the Black Bloc -- get behind the scary masks [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #24071110 - 02/07/17 12:02 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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You won't be shaming us out of acting.



On account of you being mask-wearing cowards.


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Re: Anarchists, Antifa, and the Black Bloc -- get behind the scary masks [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
    #24071113 - 02/07/17 12:03 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

What is this? Some look at me "im an anarchist ama"? This is a foolish ploy for attention if I've ever seen one. I just read Your previous posts about you advocating people removing words from their speech.. who are you talk shit on fascists when you are advocating restricting people's speech? Not as if I support fascism in any way, I would say I oppose any belief taken to extreme. People have a right to offend others. Grow up


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Re: Anarchists, Antifa, and the Black Bloc -- get behind the scary masks [Re: TheHulk69]
    #24071115 - 02/07/17 12:05 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I don't really give a shit.




Willful ignorance, gotcha.


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Re: Anarchists, Antifa, and the Black Bloc -- get behind the scary masks [Re: TheHulk69]
    #24071119 - 02/07/17 12:06 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Haven't you heard, it's not nice to say mean things about Milo yannopololpolisisis


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Re: Anarchists, Antifa, and the Black Bloc -- get behind the scary masks [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #24071126 - 02/07/17 12:08 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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You lost me as "I support property destruction".

Enjoy prison, terrorist.



Do you consider Samual Adams and the Sons of Liberty to have been terrorists too?






are the fascist bitch bois actively engaging in a revolution? all I see it criminal
property destruction and attacks on innocent civilians, maybe they need to declare
war and get this shit started already.


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Re: Anarchists, Antifa, and the Black Bloc -- get behind the scary masks [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #24071132 - 02/07/17 12:10 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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You lost me as "I support property destruction".

Enjoy prison, terrorist.



Do you consider Samual Adams and the Sons of Liberty to have been terrorists too?






are the fascist bitch bois actively engaging in a revolution? all I see it criminal
property destruction and attacks on innocent civilians, maybe they need to declare
war and get this shit started already.



They won't though, because they are pussies and cowards, dude.


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Re: Anarchists, Antifa, and the Black Bloc -- get behind the scary masks [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #24071133 - 02/07/17 12:11 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

When you guys settle on a definition for antifa let me know


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Re: Anarchists, Antifa, and the Black Bloc -- get behind the scary masks [Re: koods]
    #24071138 - 02/07/17 12:13 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Senor_Doobie said:
You are going to sit here and say it isn't cowardice to go around destroying property wearing a mask?

I don't care how you rationalize it.  The only thing you are trying to do is avoid getting caught because you don't want to be held accountable for your behavior.



I support property destruction as a valid tactic, but I can't say I support every occasion of it. If you want my completely honest opinion, I am uncertain of how much value is gained from the property destruction that was committed by the black bloc at the inauguration. This type of property destruction is mostly symbolic. On the other hand, I fully support the property destruction that prevented Milo from speaking at Berkeley. That had the direct effect of shutting down his platform that night, and I believe the harm his speech would have caused to have been the greater ill.

I do not expect you to accept this rationalization, because to you the State has a monopoly on violence. Only the State is allowed to rationalize violence. Anarchists do not accept that premise, no one has the right to threaten our community with violence. We reject the right of the government and police--who have more in common with fascists than they do with us--to decide for us when fascists have crossed the line from merely expressing themselves into posing an immediate threat. We will not abdicate our freedom to judge when and how to defend ourselves.

You don't have to accept it, but understand it. You won't be shaming us out of acting.




"I believe the harm his speech would have caused to have been the greater ill"

Why is that, if his speech wasn't good, what influence would it have?  Or are you suggesting that people are so stupid that can be influenced by a retard like Milo?

So instead of Milo spewing his bullshit you would rather have innocent people getting injured in some riot as these protesters destroy the campus?  :facepalm:

Listening to speeches can't cause people to do anything that isn't already there inside of them, Milo doesn't have any power over people, it's only people like you that give him power.


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Re: Anarchists, Antifa, and the Black Bloc -- get behind the scary masks [Re: TheHulk69]
    #24071144 - 02/07/17 12:18 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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who are you talk shit on fascists when you are advocating restricting people's speech? Not as if I support fascism in any way, I would say I oppose any belief taken to extreme. People have a right to offend others. Grow up



Note, although I cannot speak for everyone who claims antifa, I do not attack people simply for having dissenting or ugly opinions. I oppose fascists because of what they do, not what they say. I'm not opposed to free speech; I'm opposed to the fact that they advance an agenda of hate and terror. I have no power to censor them; thanks to the “neutrality” of the capitalist market, they continue to publish hate literature in print and the internet. But I will not let them come into my community to build the power they need to enact their hatred.

The government and the police have never protected everyone’s free speech equally, and never will. It is in their self-interest to repress views and actions that challenge existing power inequalities. Anarchists don’t like being silenced by the state--but we don’t want the state to define and manage our freedom, either. I support self-defense and self-determination above all. What’s the purpose of free speech, if not to foster a world free from oppression? Fascists oppose this vision; thus I oppose fascism by any means necessary.

Fascists are only attempting to express their views “peacefully” in order to lay the groundwork for violent activity. Because fascists require a veneer of social legitimacy to be able to carry out their program, giving them a platform to speak opens the door to their being able to do physical harm to people. Public speech promoting ideologies of hate, whether or not you consider it violent on its own, always complements and correlates with violent actions.


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Re: Anarchists, Antifa, and the Black Bloc -- get behind the scary masks [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 2
    #24071145 - 02/07/17 12:19 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Nothing to understand about you cowards. You're a very small minority and most people don't like you. Put your hands on me or any of my friends, family or property and I'm yanking your flag pole from your dainty hands and shoving it up your asses.


Also.."we prevented Milo from speaking!" Yeah, and then you got him even more recognition and a number 1 spot on Amazon book sales :rofl:


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Re: Anarchists, Antifa, and the Black Bloc -- get behind the scary masks [Re: Eminence]
    #24071150 - 02/07/17 12:22 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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you're a very small minority



Bingo. Makes you wonder why there are half a dozen threads a week about them.


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    #24071160 - 02/07/17 12:28 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Because even though they're a small minority, they still cause a lot of bullshit for everyone around them, mostly people who aren't even doing anything to them. And it still seems to be justified by too many "liberals" who insist on calling them protesters.


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Re: Anarchists, Antifa, and the Black Bloc -- get behind the scary masks [Re: Eminence]
    #24071169 - 02/07/17 12:33 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Also.."we prevented Milo from speaking!" Yeah, and then you got him even more recognition and a number 1 spot on Amazon book sales



Nothing exists in a bubble. It can't be helped that reactionary media throws his face all over the news the next day; they do the same with mass shooters, their viewers love a villain story. Our response isn't to stop acting locally, though. What you say might be true on the national level, but I assure you that his presence was drastically reduced for the local community that decided it didn't want Milo there.


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Re: Anarchists, Antifa, and the Black Bloc -- get behind the scary masks [Re: Eminence] * 1
    #24071171 - 02/07/17 12:33 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Exactly.

And these little quivering nitwits have the gall to try to start a thread to gain members?  It's pathetic.

And it pisses me off, and I'm not going to stand by while people feel scared to wear a fucking Trump hat to the wrong place at the wrong time.

Fuck these miserable faggots


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Re: Anarchists, Antifa, and the Black Bloc -- get behind the scary masks [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #24071174 - 02/07/17 12:34 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Also.."we prevented Milo from speaking!" Yeah, and then you got him even more recognition and a number 1 spot on Amazon book sales



Nothing exists in a bubble. It can't be helped that reactionary media throws his face all over the news the next day; they do the same with mass shooters, their viewers love a villain story. Our response isn't to stop acting locally, though. What you say might be true on the national level, but I assure you that his presence was drastically reduced for the local community that decided it didn't want Milo there.





If you want to advocate violence, you should really just stick to doing it in your own head.  Maybe then you'll only hurt yourself.


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