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Re: How Myco-Curious Builds A Bulk Humidifier... [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #16885393 - 09/21/12 08:43 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

yeah, fluctuating anything is beneficial.

that's why we do lights on lights off. it fluctuates.

temp fluctuation is actually good too.

think about it an outdoor situation, is it always the same temp and humidity?


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Re: How Myco-Curious Builds A Bulk Humidifier... [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #16885427 - 09/21/12 08:58 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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you dont want your fruiting chamber to have constant humidity.

you want it to fluctuate quite a lot actually.




I see, perhaps then the only benefit then would be for absentee growers as insurance against humidity dropping bellow 90%. I wasn't aware of the fluctuating humidity thing, are you certain? I have never read anything by Stamets or anyone else suggesting this.





it can fall below 90% for hours at a time, no problems here.

also i've honestly never read any of stamets work.

all my knowledge comes from here, and experience.

but as the poster above me said. mushrooms like EVERYTHING to fluctuate.

if the substrate never has evaporation. the mushrooms will never grow.


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Re: How Myco-Curious Builds A Bulk Humidifier... [Re: k00laid]
    #16885449 - 09/21/12 09:04 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I see what you're saying, however nature doesn't usually supply optimum growing conditions, thats why we build greenhouses. I'm not arguing, just making an observation. A humidistat would have min and max settings, so if the device parameters are min 90 and max 100 (depending on species grown) this will supply the GH with fluctuating humidity levels as the humidity drops to the min setting and then kicks on to boost humidity to the max setting, fluctuating in perpetuity. I could be wrong of course.......
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you dont want your fruiting chamber to have constant humidity.

you want it to fluctuate quite a lot actually.




I see, perhaps then the only benefit then would be for absentee growers as insurance against humidity dropping bellow 90%. I wasn't aware of the fluctuating humidity thing, are you certain? I have never read anything by Stamets or anyone else suggesting this.





it can fall below 90% for hours at a time, no problems here.

also i've honestly never read any of stamets work.

all my knowledge comes from here, and experience.

but as the poster above me said. mushrooms like EVERYTHING to fluctuate.

if the substrate never has evaporation. the mushrooms will never grow.




Stamets comments on the growing parameters for cubes, and states that the humidity should never drop below 90% I'm sure mushrooms will grow anyways however I believe this is just optimum, plus wouldnt FAE cause evaporation and thats one of the reasons FAE is as important as humidity? I see what you're saying, however nature doesn't usually supply optimum growing conditions, thats why we build greenhouses. I'm not arguing, just making an observation. A humidistat would have min and max settings, so if the device parameters are min 90 and max 100 (depending on species grown) this will supply the GH with fluctuating humidity levels as the humidity drops to the min setting and then kicks on to boost humidity to the max setting, fluctuating in perpetuity. I could be wrong of course.......

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Re: How Myco-Curious Builds A Bulk Humidifier... [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #16885458 - 09/21/12 09:07 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Plus, professional mushroom grow houses for commercially produced mushrooms operate with humidistats and thermostats and it would seem fitting to follow suit in order to maximize potential. Take into consideration that cubes arent the only mushrooms grown in peoples basements, this addition to the TEK will benefit those seeking to grow other species as well.

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Re: How Myco-Curious Builds A Bulk Humidifier... [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #16885463 - 09/21/12 09:08 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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I see what you're saying, however nature doesn't usually supply optimum growing conditions, thats why we build greenhouses.


Stamets comments on the growing parameters for cubes, and states that the humidity should never drop below 90%.






1) i disagree.
2) he also wrote once, that you should incubate at 84 degrees fahrenheit.


this science is always growing.

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no not really :shrug:


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Re: How Myco-Curious Builds A Bulk Humidifier... [Re: k00laid]
    #16885499 - 09/21/12 09:19 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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no not really :shrug:




This statement is false, sorry I happen to know this for a fact.

If you look far enough back in time all literature on the subject becomes out of date, however incubating at 84 is not incorrect information. It isnt wise to incubate at 84 because people like you and me likely don't have a proper incubation room that will maintain a constant temp without fluctuating to the right of that parameter and thereby damage the mycelium. not below 90% humidity is an optimum, so is 84F but most people incubate in totes so this isn't recommended because of fluctuations in temp.

Visit a mushroom farm and you will see humidifiers set to humidistats and heaters set to thermostats in order to regulate the environment for peak performance within optimum parameters for any given species.

I don't see how applying these practices in a home would be any less effective than at an industrial mushroom farm.

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Re: How Myco-Curious Builds A Bulk Humidifier... [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #16885579 - 09/21/12 09:32 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Well, I plan on growing shitake and oyster mushrooms in the future and will likely incorporate this TEK into my grow, it seems cheeper than industrial grade material but just as effective for small time hobbyists that have a booth at the local farmers market. right now I'm growing oyster in a SGFC, it worked well enough in order to introduce me to growing oysters but wont be suitable for the market, need more space. I'm sure a humidistat and thermostat will be key, don't know anything about cubes but I'm sure mushrooms of all types would benefit.

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Re: How Myco-Curious Builds A Bulk Humidifier... [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #16885636 - 09/21/12 09:46 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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I see, perhaps then the only benefit then would be for absentee growers as insurance against humidity dropping bellow 90%. I wasn't aware of the fluctuating humidity thing, are you certain? I have never read anything by Stamets or anyone else suggesting this.



He is right about humidity fluctuations.  One option, you can get a 15 minute timer and rig it so the blower can only turn on for, say,  15 minute every hour.  That way the humidity will be maintained during those 15 min, followed by a drop, and then raised again once the timer kicks back on.

For my setup, I have the blower/humidifier running nonstop, controlled by a hygrometer. I have an intake fan that comes on to maintain FAE.  The introduction of FAE causes the humidifier to kick on, but cant quite beat out the FAE, so the FAE lowers the RH, but only for a short time when the humidifier once again humidifies the GH.

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Re: How Myco-Curious Builds A Bulk Humidifier... [Re: Thadeous]
    #16886287 - 09/21/12 11:56 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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p9hu7 said:
I see what you're saying, however nature doesn't usually supply optimum growing conditions, thats why we build greenhouses.


Stamets comments on the growing parameters for cubes, and states that the humidity should never drop below 90%.






1) i disagree.
2) he also wrote once, that you should incubate at 84 degrees fahrenheit.




I get my biggest and thickest fruits from outside. Humidity fluctuates between 60%-90% here in the summer. Temps are 85-100F each day.


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Re: How Myco-Curious Builds A Bulk Humidifier... [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #16887868 - 09/21/12 04:45 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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I don't see how applying these practices in a home would be any less effective than at an industrial mushroom farm.




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Re: How Myco-Curious Builds A Bulk Humidifier... [Re: the walrus]
    #19202290 - 11/28/13 07:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The 15 gallon blue mixing barrel can be found at your local concrete/cement company. They usually will have a small shop that sells the tools of this trade. Home stores do not carry this barrel.

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Re: How Myco-Curious Builds A Bulk Humidifier... [Re: mycocurious]
    #19345759 - 12/30/13 10:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm sorry to post in an old thread, but I cannot find a more recent thread about bulk humidifiers. How big of barrel and how many head fogger will be necessary to run 6 four tier green houses? I appreciate any input. Thanks!

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Re: How Myco-Curious Builds A Bulk Humidifier... [Re: Gum Base]
    #21723716 - 05/26/15 06:30 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Old post but good tec. Thanks.


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Re: How Myco-Curious Builds A Bulk Humidifier... [Re: OldYamaha]
    #21844785 - 06/23/15 05:30 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

I know this is an old post, but I was wondering if you could use a 55 gallon drum for the humidifier, just since they are local and inexpensive?

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Re: How Myco-Curious Builds A Bulk Humidifier... [Re: Sunrael]
    #21856877 - 06/25/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: How Myco-Curious Builds A Bulk Humidifier... [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #21884713 - 07/01/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Is that a 4" imput pipe, with a 3" output pipe? I wonder if a Radon kit blower would work?


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    #21885329 - 07/01/15 10:06 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah its a 4 inch and a 3 inch, it works perfectly.

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    #21896549 - 07/04/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks. :smile:


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Re: How Myco-Curious Builds A Bulk Humidifier... [Re: mycocurious]
    #24042906 - 01/27/17 02:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

need this for reference


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saving this thread...awsome

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