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Is anyone into carnivorous plants?
    #24027051 - 01/20/17 11:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Just bought some Drosera and nepenthes seeds, cant wait to get them going.

I read gibberellic acid helps the seeds germinate somehow, can anyone shed more light on this for me?
Nepenthes left drosera right

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Re: Is anyone into carnivorous plants? [Re: Nobler Hino]
    #24028280 - 01/21/17 01:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I've never grown Nepenthes or Drosera from seed, but from what I can read online it seems like the fresher the seed the better, and to sow them on sphagnum moss and put your pot in a sealed plastic baggie for humidity.


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Re: Is anyone into carnivorous plants? [Re: trichlover]
    #24028810 - 01/21/17 05:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I have a typical flytrap that I hope I put into dormancy and didn't kill, if it comes back in the spring I was thinking about getting a couple more cultivars.


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Re: Is anyone into carnivorous plants? [Re: NDStepp84]
    #24029711 - 01/22/17 05:44 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I've never grown Nepenthes or Drosera from seed, but from what I can read online it seems like the fresher the seed the better, and to sow them on sphagnum moss and put your pot in a sealed plastic baggie for humidity.




Yep, this is what i also read.
Apparently for a higher success rate, you need to add a gram of gebberellic acid to a liter of distilled water then soak the seeds for 24 hours in a napkin soaked in the solution. I think the reason they do it this way is because waiting for a year full of climate changes to split the seed is just too long a wait. The gibberellic helps shorten the germination time.


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I have a typical flytrap that I hope I put into dormancy and didn't kill, if it comes back in the spring I was thinking about getting a couple more cultivars.



Yeah man, venus flytraps are really cool. Ive seen venus flytrap extract online too, wonder what it is good for.


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Re: Is anyone into carnivorous plants? [Re: Nobler Hino] * 1
    #24029765 - 01/22/17 07:05 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Nobler Hino said:Ive seen venus flytrap extract online too, wonder what it is good for.




Like most snake oils, its main effect is probably to lighten wallets. :laugh:  :tinfoil:


But at least one of the constituents has potential use:
Plumbagin, a Medicinal Plant–Derived Naphthoquinone, Is a Novel Inhibitor of the Growth and Invasion of Hormone-Refractory Prostate Cancer


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Re: Is anyone into carnivorous plants? [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
    #24030269 - 01/22/17 11:29 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I've had a couple purple pitcher plants, I don't have experience staring from seed. I have killed all of my pitcher plants during hibernation. I've had a couple Sarracenia purpurea and they do fine in the summer, but then I forget to keep them wet during the winter and they die. :shrug: 

Really cool plants though, water it with distilled water only and feed it small crickets if its looking weak. No fertilizer, they are carnivorous for a reason.


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Re: Is anyone into carnivorous plants? [Re: Guess]
    #24030401 - 01/22/17 12:28 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I have a Pinguicula plant that, in combination with bti, completely solved my fungus gnat problem
I also have a Drosera tokaiensis and a Nepenthes...something
Really beautiful plants I'll get some pics for ya

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Re: Is anyone into carnivorous plants? [Re: the_r3dz]
    #24030545 - 01/22/17 01:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah man lets see em!


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Re: Is anyone into carnivorous plants? [Re: Nobler Hino]
    #24033387 - 01/23/17 02:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Its been a bitch trying to find someone who will ship gibberellic acid to me because of my location.

I found one supplier but a couple of days after i order it, they wanted to add 70$ to the s/h lol, i cancelled my order.

Any advice out there?


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Re: Is anyone into carnivorous plants? [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
    #24034508 - 01/23/17 08:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Nobler Hino said:Ive seen venus flytrap extract online too, wonder what it is good for.



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Like most snake oils, its main effect is probably to lighten wallets. :laugh:  :tinfoil:


But at least one of the constituents has potential use:
Plumbagin, a Medicinal Plant–Derived Naphthoquinone, Is a Novel Inhibitor of the Growth and Invasion of Hormone-Refractory Prostate Cancer




http://breastcancerconqueror.com/a-plant-extract-that-eats-cancer-cells/

It reminds me of the 'doctrine of signatures.' Has jaws, eats cancers.

Maybe, it's reasonable, that things like mushrooms, bog plants, and eaters of insects, would have immune properties, to protect them, in their natural environment.

Also, some believe that carnivorous plants narcotize their prey, so have psychoactive properties.

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Re: Is anyone into carnivorous plants? [Re: durian_2008]
    #24034565 - 01/23/17 09:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Nobler Hino said:Ive seen venus flytrap extract online too, wonder what it is good for.



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Like most snake oils, its main effect is probably to lighten wallets. :laugh:  :tinfoil:


But at least one of the constituents has potential use:
Plumbagin, a Medicinal Plant–Derived Naphthoquinone, Is a Novel Inhibitor of the Growth and Invasion of Hormone-Refractory Prostate Cancer




http://breastcancerconqueror.com/a-plant-extract-that-eats-cancer-cells/

It reminds me of the 'doctrine of signatures.' Has jaws, eats cancers.




Thanks for the link, my mom was just diagnosed, we found out its either 1A or 2A beyond that were still waiting


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Re: Is anyone into carnivorous plants? [Re: Nobler Hino]
    #24035703 - 01/24/17 10:40 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

A member of my household is getting an MRI, this morning.

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Its been a bitch trying to find someone who will ship gibberellic acid to me because of my location.




It's possible to make rooting hormones, from common, plant materials.

And, busy vendors should purchase bulk shipping. Many people, online, offer flat rates or free, worldwide shipping.

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Re: Is anyone into carnivorous plants? [Re: durian_2008] * 2
    #24035715 - 01/24/17 10:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

My mom gets hers on Thursday, if you need to talk feel free to message me.
Best wishes to you friend :hug:



As for rooting hormone, most garden centers carry the miracle grow kind. If not something similar.


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Re: Is anyone into carnivorous plants? [Re: Nobler Hino]
    #24035942 - 01/24/17 12:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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My mom gets hers on Thursday, if you need to talk feel free to message me.
Best wishes to you friend :hug:



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Its been a bitch trying to find someone who will ship gibberellic acid to me because of my location.

I found one supplier but a couple of days after i order it, they wanted to add 70$ to the s/h lol, i cancelled my order.

Any advice out there?




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It's possible to make rooting hormones, from common, plant materials.

And, busy vendors should purchase bulk shipping. Many people, online, offer flat rates or free, worldwide shipping.



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As for rooting hormone, most garden centers carry the miracle grow kind. If not something similar.




May I ask where you're located?

There's no need to be overly-specific, if that makes you feel uncomfortable.

(I think I have misspoken, as gibberellin is technically a lengthening hormone.)

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Re: Is anyone into carnivorous plants? [Re: durian_2008] * 1
    #24039358 - 01/25/17 05:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Kelp has plenty of gibberellic acid.


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Re: Is anyone into carnivorous plants? [Re: El Torcho]
    #24040795 - 01/26/17 09:47 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

:thumbup: Probably, because, it grows very long, very fast.

Chemicals have been extracted from different seeds, tendrils, etc.

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Re: Is anyone into carnivorous plants? [Re: durian_2008]
    #24041353 - 01/26/17 01:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Im in the virgin islands, maybe U.S., maybe British :wink: lol the flag under my avatar doesnt help.

But yeah, screw gibberellic acid, im going the route of patience.
4 to 8 weeks typically for the beginner friendly species of drosera and nepenthes.

Im going to post all my progress here from seed.

If you have any carnivorous plants, please share along with me.


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Re: Is anyone into carnivorous plants? [Re: Nobler Hino]
    #24041487 - 01/26/17 02:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Just buy a sack of kelp meal. Soak some of it in some water, then use that 'tea' to soak your seeds. Kelp should have a place in your garden anyways. Besides the auxins, there's plenty of macro, micro, and trace nutes.


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Re: Is anyone into carnivorous plants? [Re: El Torcho]
    #24041515 - 01/26/17 02:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks bro, +5


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Re: Is anyone into carnivorous plants? [Re: Nobler Hino]
    #24048628 - 01/29/17 10:52 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

imho, it would change the overall form of the plant. Someone might dabble, with plant hormones, to create a mutant.

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