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 mushboy 
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 Making shoeboxes  93
#24038695 - 01/25/17 01:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I was bored. made a shoebox write up. couldnt find too many. made it simple.
Experience shoeboxes
Small spawn trays by Ziran
Stoopid simple way to fruit your shoebox
GET YOUR FIELD CAPACITY DOWN!!
Shoeboxes are a lot of fun. they are a great go-between from trays in a sgfc to full blown monos.
a normal tote can hold 3 shoeboxes/trays.
You can also just crack the lid and fruit inside its own tote. super multitasking.
Each tray can hold up to six quarts. you can make some hefty trays with a 1:1 ratio.
normally i do 2 quarts spawn and 2quarts cvg. Filling up the mono with the trays is
basically they same as doing a mono. the same principals of the mono are in play.
a good thing is that if 1 tray goes bad you can localize and toss it without disrupting
the remaining trays. seeing a speck of trich on a gaint mono sucks ass.
I use 80qt totes.
Each shoebox is about a dollar depending on where you shop. i prefer to grab them at target.
the ones at mega hardware stores are always filthy with thick dust.
the ones at target are always super clean. i avoid walmart at all costs.
Get you spawn ready! today will be 2 quarts of AA+, 2q of mexican(cube) and 1q from a jar that had the label fall off. oops. 
Take your coco based substrate(I PCed mine in 4qt batches)
Then i dump my spawn in the shoebox.
dump in 1.5 quarts... roughly.. of PCVG.
Mix it all up really good. get in the corners. be thorough.
I just use gloves wiped with iso. you can go bare handed but i hate dirty nails.
Make it as level as you possibly can. I get really upset with myself if i do not make them level.
I then clean up the edges with a wet iso cloth and apply the remaining half Q(roughly) as a top layer to cover grains and make level.
4 total quarts fills it right to the fabricated ridge in the tote. makes leveling easier 
 
SUPER OCD ABOUT BEING LEVEL!
Sometimes you realize you didnt mix it up that well.. its not a big deal but try to mix it up your best.
Thats all. repeat as needed. Label as desired. I like to label with..
-variety
-date when tray was made(today)
-how much and what type of sub used
when you have lot of different things going, proper labeling is super important
(i cracked my tote. fixed it with packing tape. who cares)
Edited by mushboy (06/25/18 09:31 AM)
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 Grambo
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 Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy] 2
#24038731 - 01/25/17 01:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nice.
I got a small sterelite to try but haven't used it yet. I got carried away with 4 SG's, 6 mono's and only tried 2 trays.
Might be my next thing to try as I work at isolations, but I'll most likely do cakes to test the fruits individually till I find a strong strain.
Thank you for the agar tips as well brother.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Grambo] 3
#24038757 - 01/25/17 02:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I read somewhere that smaller fruiting environments cause smaller fruits. How accurate is this statement? I really like the idea of using shoeboxes instead of one giant tub, but also don't want to compromise the size of my fruits. My dream is plucking a monster fruit 
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mushboy
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Pastywhyte said:
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its about water. more water=larger fruits.
larger substrates will have more water for a mushroom to feed from.
but 1.5inch subs can put out monsters easily if hydrated.
This. Available water and specific genetics has more to do with fruit size than sub persay. Of course a large bulk sub has a lot more water to draw from which often results in larger fruits but, you can get big fruits from even a pf cake if you supply enough water.
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Dactylium
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy] 3
#24038832 - 01/25/17 02:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Good shit mushboy 
I'm gonna run a couple of these for my LAGM project in your honor
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Tookitooki
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Dactylium] 3
#24038859 - 01/25/17 02:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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What size tote are you doing three shoeboxes in?. I can only get two in my 54-56qt monos
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mushboy
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thb, i dont know the same one i get for my SAB and cat boxes
they fit really snug.. sometimes slightly up on each other but only a bit
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Dactylium
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Cmon bro man up. Ditch the fruiting chamber and use a casing layer. 
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy] 3
#24038954 - 01/25/17 03:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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mushboy said:
thb, i dont know the same one i get for my SAB and cat boxes
they fit really snug.. sometimes slightly up on each other but only a bit
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy] 2
#24039667 - 01/25/17 07:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I see how you fit your three. I've noticed that running my totes with the shoeboxes, is harder to dial in, then running them as a mono. The humidity doesn't hold as well.
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Munchauzen
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy] 24
#24039736 - 01/25/17 08:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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started using em round 2 years ago and now they are all I use anymore
I don't put them in monos thou. I either just leave the lids on or dub them.
   
  
 
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Grambo
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Forgot we were talking shoebox for a moment when I saw the first pic, I was thinking 60qt tubs.
Look really good man.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Grambo] 2
#24039863 - 01/25/17 09:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've had 2 "shoeboxes" sitting around for months now. You've inspired me to actually put them to use.
I think I'm finally gunna spawn 3 mycoquarts of APE to half a brick of coir and let it consolidate in there for a while before taking up monotub space.
I'll keep ya posted! Just waiting on spawn to finish colonizing.
I can fit two of thsee in a standard 66qt mono perfectly.
Munch are these the same as yours?
What do you do to fruit them?
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Munchauzen
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nope. mine are smaller. no latching lid either.
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I don't put them in monos thou. I either just leave the lids on or dub them.
and in my experience, they didnt do well when i modded them for poly holes. too much fae and they dried out. straight unmodded dubs worked the best when the space was needed. fruits like APE i just leave the lid on. no need for dubbing. they get plenty of FAE either way.
Edited by Munchauzen (01/25/17 09:35 PM)
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mushboy
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I used the six quart totes. those larger ones with the latches make great minis
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They get enough FAE wit the lids left on?
Gunna have to search up the dub method
I use these for storing no pours or making prints right now but I personally really like 27qt for minis
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Munchauzen
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Quote:
ComebackKid said:
They get enough FAE wit the lids left on?
Gunna have to search up the dub method
yes.
what is there to search? look at that picture. you simply place a 2nd tub on top. thats it. no tape. no holes. put a 2nd tub on top. end of story 
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Dactylium
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BRB going to target
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Munchauzen
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Dactylium] 3
#24039896 - 01/25/17 09:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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they are $1 a piece at kroger
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Dactylium
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I bought a $10 tote for my bottles and I've left the lid off for days without them drying out. 
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