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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: sir_spins_alot]
    #24761920 - 11/05/17 03:15 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Have you started fruiting yet? Looks ready


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Hopeless_Hound]
    #24762074 - 11/05/17 04:28 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Me? No I thought I had to wait 7-10 days.
Would you case or just let it go?


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: sir_spins_alot]
    #24762078 - 11/05/17 04:30 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

I mean you can... but honestly that looks fully colonized, casing is unnecessary with cubes and that tub looks really good to me. I would fruit it


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Hopeless_Hound]
    #24762123 - 11/05/17 04:54 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Definitely looks ready for fruiting :thumbup:

There's no set time period you have to wait to fruit. Go by how much the tub is colonized.

You can also introduce fruiting conditions pretty much whenever


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: pixelpopper]
    #24762133 - 11/05/17 04:59 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

I always fruit at spawning, requires more care but I enjoy the time I have with my babies.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: pixelpopper]
    #24762134 - 11/05/17 04:59 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Great to hear guys thanks.  How do you fruit yours?  I was planing on just flipping the lids upside down or dubing them. With misting do they usually hold enough water till pinning starts?


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: sir_spins_alot]
    #24762139 - 11/05/17 05:01 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Ill keep updating results every few days.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: sir_spins_alot]
    #24762143 - 11/05/17 05:04 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Previous tubs I flipped the lid and I usually fucked it around a bunch of different positions depending on how wet/dry my sub was, ok results I guess. I personally got into a car wreck and the lid to my shoebox was in the car(we were moving places at the time). I had no money so It was fruited open air for this last tub, my best results by far, waiting on the second flush.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Hopeless_Hound]
    #24762149 - 11/05/17 05:06 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah man that flush is unbelievable the weight you got off one Box just blows my mind looks like fresh air exchange is probably the number 1 priority


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: sir_spins_alot]
    #24762152 - 11/05/17 05:10 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Yea it's crazy, it looks like a lot less from the top, but there are so many that aren't visible from that angle, I personally guessed 400-500 g wet, very dense clusters. I'll be surprised if I get anything second flush, how far can 4 bacterial ms pints go? I even dropped the wet spot bacterial grain in the tub! It was only roughly 10% of 1 jar but I'm sure that will come back to bite me second flush, I guess we'll see.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Hopeless_Hound]
    #24762156 - 11/05/17 05:13 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Those are very attractive looking mushrooms as well. I hope the cloning works out for you :thumbup:


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Hopeless_Hound]
    #24762167 - 11/05/17 05:18 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

4 bacterial ms pints!?!  That's fucking wild man.  I must of missed that part.  Makes it even more mind blowing!

The far right picture really shows the massive amount of mushrooms there literally just fucking stacks upon stacks of them looks like a big mono tubs worth.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: pixelpopper]
    #24762169 - 11/05/17 05:19 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks I hope so too, it's funny because this is 1 of 3 tubs, all done with ms, 3 different amounts of spawn, this is the middle tub relative to the other 2, this 1 has the highest weight of any of the other two combined in 1 flush. Surely if they were all MS(same syringe even), and the only difference is open air, that must be the biggest factor, that and I made sure it stayed hydrated, I found it better to be a bit on the wet side because it would dry up fairly quickly after a heavy mist.(3-5 hours)


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Hopeless_Hound]
    #24762200 - 11/05/17 05:31 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)


This tub used the most spawn, about 16 half pints. They were more bacterial but I was satisfied, total yield first flush was about 360 g wet, not terrible but pretty bad for the amount of spawn, it's gone on to produce more in outside flushes that amount to around 2.5 Oz dry total



This tub was a lot less bacterial, 3 jars 100% with a slight funky growth but they took a while to colonize, about a month and a couple weeks, 1 stopped at 90%. Spawn was otherwise unoteworthy.
First flush including side and bottom pins total was 1052.7, didn't have time to pick all the little ones but there was a mess of pins hidden underneath the canopy that got fairly far, at least for aborts. The tub also had 6 pairs of twins and 1 double capped mushroom which is lost amongst its brothers.
Btw those are the same tub I was poor so the old sub got thrown out and now it's the container for this shoebox. 1 thing I forgot which I think may have played a part, this tub the coir was pced, the other was prepared bucket tek(its infected with vert). Nothing hiding in the casing layer on this tub so far.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Hopeless_Hound]
    #24762341 - 11/05/17 06:34 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

To think I almost threw away those jars(no I didn't I would've still used 3 the 4th was the big if) but it also makes me wonder why multispore is so looked down upon? I'm sure a clone would perform better under the same conditions(maybe? Probably?) but even so if results like this are even possible with so little spawn and absolutely no isolation why is syringe to grain so looked down on? I didn't get any contam(to my knowledge) from inoculant, growth was clean until shaken(I shouldn't have) so I'm pretty sure it was too moist grain getting getting the filter wet. I've gotten some completely contam free jars with small amount of spore solution(1/4 cc) per jar and no shaking, I think the shaking issue is a design flaw with my jars, when I started this I was super broke so I did the cheapest possible grow with barebone supplies(blanket covering a table propped up with a chair in he middle, than sanitized with a metric fuckton ISO and Lysol as my substitute still air "box"). let's just say I can afford to support the hobby now.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Hopeless_Hound]
    #24762677 - 11/05/17 10:11 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)



AA+ 2 jars pictured top and side view.

A2G took like 3 weeks to colonize. Super hard to break up at 100% on my bikes tire.
Recovered after 2 days .
Passed the smell test.

2 tubs 1:2 spawn C/V and one half quart jar to 1 quart C/V. Psuedo cased all of em


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: JHOVA]
    #24762686 - 11/05/17 10:14 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Awesome I can't wait to start some AA So pretty.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Hopeless_Hound]
    #24762688 - 11/05/17 10:16 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: PreparationH]
    #24762701 - 11/05/17 10:21 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Keep an eye out for the giveaway:awesomenod:


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: JHOVA]
    #24763065 - 11/06/17 05:43 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Do you just lift the substrate up when harvesting if you have some growing on dudes and bottom?


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