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potnug



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I've never used a liner and probably never will. I get side pins with certain cultures. I just don't mind em too much. I'm experimenting with how I pack my substrate in at spawn to reduce side pin action. It's fungus at the end of the day it's gonna grow where it can. Mushboy doesn't seem to have issues with side pins  Maybe he can drop some wisdom
The shoebox I got pinning now that I've been posting pics of has a couple side pins right now actually and I have pics of a similar culture that gave me some side pins. Shoeboxes are like big cakes for some cultures in the sense that they'll grow from all sides of it, even the bottom sometimes.

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: potnug] 1
#24688654 - 10/06/17 02:30 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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PE shoeboxes
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Steevo]
#24688736 - 10/06/17 03:19 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Booyah!
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mushboy
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box o' dicks!!
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Thepowerofplants88

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#24689338 - 10/06/17 07:09 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Any difference between a "shoebox" and a monotub? What is better?
Edit: Let me guess,, DO YOUR RESEARCH.
Edited by Thepowerofplants88 (10/06/17 07:13 PM)
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Just_A_Noob
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Shoebox is basically a mini monotub
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You will get a shit ton more shrooms with a mono.
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So I made a liner for my shoebox

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Steevo]
#24689930 - 10/06/17 11:38 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Steevo said: PE shoeboxes

Looking good bro
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Quote:
mushroom_therapy said: You will get a shit ton more shrooms with a mono.
..if you can pull off a mono..
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in_dot
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mushroom_therapy said: You will get a shit ton more shrooms with a mono.
Yea but these shoeboxes are perfect for testing clones or if you are just wanting some for personal use.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: in_dot]
#24690036 - 10/07/17 01:25 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Or just so not all your eggs are in one basket
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mushroom_therapy
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Yeah, they are great for many reasons. And they fruit a lot faster than a mono. I've started lining my shoeboxes by cutting out a black trash bag and putting one layer in the shoe box. Hopefully I will hve more success this way. This was my best shoebox, usually I get way too many aborts ):
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Second part of the first flush. Plus a TON of side and bottom pins.
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Steevo
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mushroom_therapy said: Yeah, they are great for many reasons. And they fruit a lot faster than a mono. I've started lining my shoeboxes by cutting out a black trash bag and putting one layer in the shoe box. Hopefully I will hve more success this way. This was my best shoebox, usually I get way too many aborts ):

What are you hoping the liner will help with?
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Steevo]
#24691314 - 10/07/17 03:22 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pre-venting Side pants. I understand its surface conditions however it doesn't hurt to try it because going to be having 20 shoeboxes going.
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potnug



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mushboy
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not to be a douche but it going to hurt.
if you dont work on the surface conditions all the liner will really do is hide the pins. ignorance can be bliss i guess. sure the liner 'clings' to the substrate to prevent a micro climate... but you gotta ask why is the substrate shrinking so much before the 1st flush??
some cultures can guzzle water but if you keep your surface tight and your bulk prep is solid, the tote is the liner.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: potnug]
#24691343 - 10/07/17 03:34 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Again, my latest shooboxes seem to be getting a bit bacterial.
I've been doing the bucket tek, then PC-ing the 20/80 Verm/Coir mix in autoclavable bags, ~10l at a time for around 90mins at pressure. I try maintain a clean environment when I mix up the spawn and sub. The spawn is pretty clean looking, no visible metabolite drops or discolouration or wetness when I spawn. Is there a better method than this?
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its the spawn thats bacterial. not the tote. fix your spawn. you could fruit in a fucking old trashcan if you wanted.
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I try maintain a clean environment when I mix up the spawn and sub. The spawn is pretty clean looking, no visible metabolite drops or discolouration or wetness when I spawn
your barking up the wrong tree. its in your spawn. clean up your inoculate.
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