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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: ShaperDreaming]
    #25737869 - 01/11/19 09:27 AM (5 years, 19 days ago)

Small caps and long shrooms USUALLY means a light problem. Not enough fae u would see fuzzy feet


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: nube424]
    #25737891 - 01/11/19 09:36 AM (5 years, 19 days ago)

this is the set up, fabric breaths so I know air is moving thru it.



I do not have any lighting set up, other then the celling fan/light

I also read that flipping the lid was common, then dub, or bag ect.
you suggest putting the lid on correctly and left unsnapped?


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Camera93]
    #25737898 - 01/11/19 09:39 AM (5 years, 19 days ago)

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One of my chitwan clone shoeboxes
spawned on 12/18 hoping for a lot of pins any day now



Another with some side pinning



Are these looking okay? Or does the lack of pins this long indicate somethings afoul?

Thanks for any input :mushroom2:




Contamination can do that too, but I don't think that's the case here.

Are you misting because the surface is pretty wet...I'd let that evaporate for sure.

Closet grows are tricky because light and FAE are at times not abundant enough :shrug:



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Small caps and long shrooms USUALLY means a light problem. Not enough fae u would see fuzzy feet



You can get the same effect with lack of FAE, but usually its like FAE is nonexistent to get long, leggy mushies.
I see it a lot with gourmets especially....:shrug:



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this is the set up, fabric breaths so I know air is moving thru it.



I do not have any lighting set up, other then the celling fan/light

I also read that flipping the lid was common, then dub, or bag ect.
you suggest putting the lid on correctly and left unsnapped?



That is not going to provide adequate FAE IMO....you need something to channel fresh air in and you definitely need a better light set up.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Tormato]
    #25737909 - 01/11/19 09:43 AM (5 years, 19 days ago)

Okay, I have lighting on the way *1 65k daylight cfl*

I have a small fan inside the closet I can set to burst every few hours for a min or so, sound reasonable?

I also haven't really misted at all, that just isn't really evaporating.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Tormato]
    #25737912 - 01/11/19 09:44 AM (5 years, 19 days ago)

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Small caps and long shrooms USUALLY means a light problem. Not enough fae u would see fuzzy feet



You can get the same effect with lack of FAE, but usually its like FAE is nonexistent to get long, leggy mushies.
I see it a lot with gourmets especially....:shrug:






Indeed, I read about depriving enoki (flammulina velutipes) mushrooms of FAE specifically to achieve long thin stipes with small caps.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Camera93]
    #25737916 - 01/11/19 09:47 AM (5 years, 19 days ago)

Don't be afraid to mist, but only do it when it needs it. Ie, when there's no moisture on the surface. Just let it all evaporate between mistings.

And better light will serve u well. I like my LED lighting. It's only 8w and it's bright as fuck.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: nube424]
    #25737919 - 01/11/19 09:49 AM (5 years, 19 days ago)

Lack of FAE causes fuzzy feet... insufficientlight causes long skinny stipes and small caps


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: juniperus]
    #25737922 - 01/11/19 09:50 AM (5 years, 19 days ago)

My Mazatec was very skinny steam and small caps but it was like a forest of them in that shoebox it had the same light as the golden teachers and same fae but all the mushrooms were very close together don’t know what the problem was. And the treasure coast in the boot box is looking the same


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Licky711]
    #25737927 - 01/11/19 09:53 AM (5 years, 19 days ago)

Sounds healthy


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Camera93]
    #25737938 - 01/11/19 09:58 AM (5 years, 19 days ago)

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Okay, I have lighting on the way *1 65k daylight cfl*

I have a small fan inside the closet I can set to burst every few hours for a min or so, sound reasonable?

I also haven't really misted at all, that just isn't really evaporating.



Lack of evaporation is a sign of insufficient FAE...like I said it's a combination of both lighting and FAE IMO.

Your setup is similar to a Martha Greenhouse which everyone I've encountered needed forced FAE from the outside. Either leave it unzipped or make a hole in the material and put the fan outside pumping air in...

:2cents:



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Lack of FAE causes fuzzy feet... insufficientlight causes long skinny stipes and small caps




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I agree, but not being to fuzzy i think fae was acceptable



Its not a light switch thing. Sometimes in vitro fruits with no fae have no fuzzy feet. Sometimes nearly open air ones do have fuzzy feet




for sure. sometimes its genetics. other times its conditions.




I think the jury is still out on the fuzzy feet root cause :lol:


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Tormato] * 1
    #25737948 - 01/11/19 10:03 AM (5 years, 19 days ago)

Or ditch the martha and just use tubs. :shrug:


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: LtLurker] * 1
    #25737950 - 01/11/19 10:04 AM (5 years, 19 days ago)

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Or ditch the martha and just use tubs. :shrug:



Yeah, I'm not sure why this is in an elaborate gig like this, but my first thought was ditch the closet thing and then put the lids on there normal (without latching) and that should fix your issues.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: LtLurker]
    #25737954 - 01/11/19 10:05 AM (5 years, 19 days ago)

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Or ditch the martha and just use tubs. :shrug:




:whathesaid: The beauty of shoebox grows!


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: LtLurker]
    #25737959 - 01/11/19 10:07 AM (5 years, 19 days ago)

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Or ditch the martha and just use tubs. :shrug:





The closet is just to house my tubs, I can't have them out in the open and I had hoped tbis would be better then an actual closet due to issues stated above me

Thank you all for the advice, I can't wait for the light to arrive, and ill figure out somthing with the fan


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: ShaperDreaming]
    #25737960 - 01/11/19 10:07 AM (5 years, 19 days ago)

I mean I could see it if you were into exotics and wanted open trays in there; but if you're just growing cubes, it's too ez to just use straight tubs.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Tormato]
    #25737962 - 01/11/19 10:08 AM (5 years, 19 days ago)

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Enoki properly deprived of FAE to get the trademark tall stem small cap growth, which is highly recommended for this species - TrancendingLife







That's where I got that.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: MadHatter333]
    #25738055 - 01/11/19 10:52 AM (5 years, 19 days ago)

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Abouts to chop down zee foressst!



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That’s a great shoebox!  Totes jelly!


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Steevo]
    #25738182 - 01/11/19 12:31 PM (5 years, 19 days ago)

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Don't worry it's drying basically faster than I can keep up with.




Ever try adding a casing layer?





Yeah I do at spawn


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25738298 - 01/11/19 01:37 PM (5 years, 19 days ago)

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@Caps:

Do you have a pic of your RW plates?  I have some going but it’s more of a fluffy myc.  Wanted something to reference.











Cool, thanks Caps!  Just did my second transfer last night so I’ll see what it looks like in a few days.  Hopefully it goes a little more rhizomorphic.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Brain Bulb]
    #25738323 - 01/11/19 01:53 PM (5 years, 19 days ago)

Going to spawn attempt #3 on APE’s tonight!  First one made it to spawn then got green mold and the second started showing tams in the jar.  Really hope this one works out!



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