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Caps McGee
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Well experiment for sure, but general consensus seems to be that a thin top layer at spawn and keeping the lid snapped for pinset, and not dubtubbing until the fruit are nearly touching the lid... these boxes are so shallow they allow the airflow... at the seal, so same rate with lid or second tub: only difference being more air volume to keep humid,thus drying faster... minimal space
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OK that actually makes a lot of sense on why as soon as I dubtubed them is when I noticed them drying faster. Good looking out, sorry for doubting yah when I asked the other day. I'll see how these go and do it lidded next time the whole way thru.
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ChocolateMilk said: Thank you. I misted pretty good after this pic, I also bottom watered it the other day the edges were starting to get a lil tan, my room rh is about 35% but my boxes are much higher, just tryna get the balance between them down. Without compromising Fae.
I find having the lid completely snapped until pinset development, and then popping it open to do best anyway... the imperfect fit of the lid provides adequate FAE for the colonizing culture, and maintains humidity much more efficiently... some of these guys even stack them until dubtub is necessary
This is my first time with the shoebox, and wanted to kinda get a feel for it, I'm sure what your saying would work , but I already dubtubed them, I had them capped till I saw knots form a few days ago, i could have waited till pins tho. I will DEFFINENTLY be doing more of them, I just got a lil anal about it, being my first few . They really do almost all of it themselves.
Yeah man they do all the work themselves for sure. I'm on my fourth set of shoeboxes, and I've tried different things but in the end I found that just dubbing it and leaving it alone is the way to go. I mist once or twice a day, but other than that, there's nothing to it. Shoeboxes are my favorite especially for a noob because they're easy to harvest all the side pins if you fuck up the surface moisture end wind up with almost nothing but side pins. All you gotta do is flip it over and take the cake out to pick them and then put it back when you're done! (I have to do that alot because I suck at surface moisture). My problem has been that I was dubbing at 100% colonization instead of waiting until full pinset. Im going to try keeping lids on until I can't anymore on this next one and see if that fixes the problem of my surface drying out.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: dmar] 1
#25725205 - 01/05/19 01:26 PM (5 years, 25 days ago) |
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Nice little pinset coming in on this GT clone shoebox...
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Enkidu
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Nakoa]
#25725575 - 01/05/19 04:46 PM (5 years, 25 days ago) |
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Enkidu]
#25725777 - 01/05/19 06:16 PM (5 years, 25 days ago) |
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Any tips for doing pan cambo's in a shoebox?
Holy god this is a long thread. wonder if OP has followed the entire thing
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Mushboy has definitely followed this thread the whole way...he's a shoe box hero!!!
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Caps McGee
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Re: Making shoeboxes *DELETED* [Re: mushboy]
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Caps McGee
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: thelanzii] 1
#25725878 - 01/05/19 07:07 PM (5 years, 25 days ago) |
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Looks like stress fruiting from contamination... likely bacteria... many of these will likely abort... looks wet too... either increasing FAE or laying off misting a bit should help the flush finish...
Overmisting could be your whole issue
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ChocolateMilk said: Thank you. I misted pretty good after this pic, I also bottom watered it the other day the edges were starting to get a lil tan, my room rh is about 35% but my boxes are much higher, just tryna get the balance between them down. Without compromising Fae.
I find having the lid completely snapped until pinset development, and then popping it open to do best anyway... the imperfect fit of the lid provides adequate FAE for the colonizing culture, and maintains humidity much more efficiently... some of these guys even stack them until dubtub is necessary
What do you mean pop it open? Couldn't you just leave the lid on until the fruits got too large then did the dubtub?
Getting ready to spawn shortly. Jars are about 80%.
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Caps McGee
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I mean the lids typically have clips that snap into place, after pinset, i take the lid off, and replace it, but don't snap it: let the clips rest on the rim of the tub... this increases the gap slightly, increasing FAE slightly... unsnapping is middle ground dialed in for me... allows the FAE a full on dubtub would, while still containing the space to only what's necessary
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Caps McGee said: I mean the lids typically have clips that snap into place, after pinset, i take the lid off, and replace it, but don't snap it: let the clips rest on the rim of the tub... this increases the gap slightly, increasing FAE slightly... unsnapping is middle ground dialed in for me... allows the FAE a full on dubtub would, while still containing the space to only what's necessary
Meh mine dont really have clips.. they just kinda sit on there. Just cheap shoeboxes. Sit on there imperfectly. Doesn't seal.
Anyway, do most of you guys to the bucket tek for your coir? Or do you just get to field capacity & spawn?
Because I much rather not boil... but I will if it makes the difference like night and day
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I've never not done it, but have read the myc seems to appreciate it when it's "cooked" a little... I also read someone recently just uses hot tap water and reported having no issues for some time
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: thelanzii] 1
#25726022 - 01/05/19 08:31 PM (5 years, 25 days ago) |
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I have 10 shoeboxes right now pretty much all doing this
Not sure where I went wrong
I didn't use a top layer for the first time so my surface conditions could have been off
Might have messed up mixing some of them
yield doesnt look bad, could be a hell of a lot worse
Nice looking box to me
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Caps McGee said: Well experiment for sure, but general consensus seems to be that a thin top layer at spawn and keeping the lid snapped for pinset, and not dubtubbing until the fruit are nearly touching the lid... these boxes are so shallow they allow the airflow... at the seal, so same rate with lid or second tub: only difference being more air volume to keep humid,thus drying faster... minimal space
Iām starting to see pins and Iām having drying issues. Should I sift a thin layer of coir on and mist?
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Enkidu]
#25726081 - 01/05/19 09:18 PM (5 years, 25 days ago) |
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Nice looking box to me 

shrooms are shrooms mang. give em air. maybe bottom water if you think its dry otherwise let em chill
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#25726085 - 01/05/19 09:21 PM (5 years, 25 days ago) |
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Nice to see your name Mushboy
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Enkidu]
#25726087 - 01/05/19 09:22 PM (5 years, 25 days ago) |
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