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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: ChocolateMilk]
    #25719701 - 01/02/19 07:20 PM (5 years, 28 days ago)

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My first clone pin! 


About to be a whole lite more:biggrin:


These are definitely coming in different from my first batch.  I’m hoping they’ll be chubby with gnome hat caps😋




I'm excited to see these boys grow out! My RH just started colonizing:)




Me too:-).  I can already tell there are going to be a lot of side pins in at least one box.  They did really well when I took them out of the SB and put into my FC last time.  Very tempting.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Brain Bulb]
    #25719928 - 01/02/19 09:27 PM (5 years, 28 days ago)

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Trying to start the new year off right!

3 boxes of my Roatan Honduras clone:


2 boxes of Brazilians:


AA+:


Pan. Cyan Australia: (Now cased)


Caerulescens: (Now cased)


Just found green mold in my APE SB but have some more spawning!



What's your setup on those pan cyans? Ive been trying to grow cyans for a while with no success




I’m on my 3rd attempt myself. 

Cleaned up spores from print on agar ~ Used 150mL GSW/LME for LI ~ Used sterile swabs to collect healthy myc from plate then stirred into LI ~ Inoculated 1 lb bag of rye berries with 12cc’s of LI.  After colonized I spawned to a SB with 70/20/10 ~ Hpoo/Coir/Verm sub at 80F with 95-99% RH.  Once fully colonized I cased with 50/50 Peat/Coir and a little verm ~ Put my SB into SGFC set to 80F with 80-85% RH.  6500k CFL bulb on 13 hours on, 8 hours off cycle.

Just cased them yesterday so I’ll keep you posted!  Wish me luck, lol.  Same to you!



Sounds like we're doing it almost identically lol. Did you add calcium carbonate to your casing and check the PH?


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: dmar]
    #25720430 - 01/03/19 07:00 AM (5 years, 27 days ago)

I  have a couple shoeboxes fully colonized. They have been eating the substrate to the point where there’s a centimeter clearance on all sides. How can I force it to pin? I heard something about fridging it overnight.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: MechaLegend]
    #25720532 - 01/03/19 08:19 AM (5 years, 27 days ago)

Don't do that: cold shock is for some gourmets..  cubensis is a tropical species... increase FAE slightly and continue to monitor surface conditions... how long after spawning are they?

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: MechaLegend]
    #25720540 - 01/03/19 08:26 AM (5 years, 27 days ago)

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I  have a couple shoeboxes fully colonized. They have been eating the substrate to the point where there’s a centimeter clearance on all sides. How can I force it to pin? I heard something about fridging it overnight.




You don't. You wait until it's ready to pin and it pins. I wouldn't try to force it to do anything unless there's something strange going on or you want to risk doing more damage than good and be dissapointed. That's just me.

Usually for me they seem to start pinning a few days or so after full colonization.

Maybe post a pic


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: MechaLegend]
    #25720573 - 01/03/19 08:46 AM (5 years, 27 days ago)

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I  have a couple shoeboxes fully colonized. They have been eating the substrate to the point where there’s a centimeter clearance on all sides. How can I force it to pin? I heard something about fridging it overnight.




The clearance actually sounds like your sub dried out. Consider bottom watering. The mycelium doesn't "eat" the substrate, it extracts nutrients and water from it. So most of the shrinkage your seeing is probably water loss. Fruiting will just happen with the right surface conditions.

Edit: oh yea, what they said as well ^


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: juniperus]
    #25720706 - 01/03/19 10:06 AM (5 years, 27 days ago)

Shrinking is normal, I'd avoid rehydrating until between flushes, unless it has been a number of weeks and develops a rather heavy pinset, there should be plenty of water... mist to maintain surface moisture, but only when it needs it... evaporation is a pinning trigger and should be allowed to occur between mistings to stimulate pinning and avoid over-saturating the substrate...


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Enkidu]
    #25720735 - 01/03/19 10:31 AM (5 years, 27 days ago)

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I  have a couple shoeboxes fully colonized. They have been eating the substrate to the point where there’s a centimeter clearance on all sides. How can I force it to pin? I heard something about fridging it overnight.




You don't. You wait until it's ready to pin and it pins. I wouldn't try to force it to do anything unless there's something strange going on or you want to risk doing more damage than good and be dissapointed. That's just me.

Usually for me they seem to start pinning a few days or so after full colonization.

Maybe post a pic



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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: MechaLegend]
    #25720743 - 01/03/19 10:34 AM (5 years, 27 days ago)

It's way too dry. Looks like too much fae.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: nube424]
    #25720758 - 01/03/19 10:45 AM (5 years, 27 days ago)

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It's way too dry. Looks like too much fae.



Will misting be enough or should I fill it up with water overnight and pour it out in the morning? I thought it was doing fine because I was under the impression that it yellows a little and starts to crack when it loses too much moisture.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Enkidu]
    #25720775 - 01/03/19 10:55 AM (5 years, 27 days ago)

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Last one needs air, other ones look like they might need air too.

They got my reaching up into the air which seems to be because of high humidity, trying to colonize the air, more air helps lower that humidity, don't go overboard. Maybe just flip all the lids is prolly what I would do and then chill and reduce stress






Do you find the myc going aerial like that is actually a telltale sign of too much humidity? I ask because all my tubs of this one GT cluster clone have extremely aerial growth. Looks pretty if nothing else.

All spawned to straight coir+gypsum.


Also I can't imagine that "classical" colonization conditions are totally outdated. For instance I wrap my colonizing shoeboxes in trashbags. I've tried leaving them out of the bags before and they tend to dry up. I would think the main advantage to restricting FAE during colonization is moisture retention, no?


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: One Up]
    #25720833 - 01/03/19 11:41 AM (5 years, 27 days ago)

Yes, it's a sign it needs more air.

They are outdated. Colonizing in a trashbag is silly. Mycellium wants light and air. Lid closed on a colonizing tub should retain humidity fine, try adding a top layer if it's drying out on you anyway. Mist as/if needed.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: LtLurker]
    #25720934 - 01/03/19 12:54 PM (5 years, 27 days ago)

So this is day 9 and the growth doesn't look much different. Should I just keep the 4 boxes lids shut or is it time to open one side or flip the lid?



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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: LtLurker]
    #25720941 - 01/03/19 12:58 PM (5 years, 27 days ago)

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Yes, it's a sign it needs more air.

They are outdated. Colonizing in a trashbag is silly. Mycellium wants light and air. Lid closed on a colonizing tub should retain humidity fine, try adding a top layer if it's drying out on you anyway. Mist as/if needed.





Interesting thanks for the reply.

I'm also doing my tubs with a layer of spawn (about an inch thick) sandwiched between 2 layers of coir. Seems to colonize very fast and very evenly. Is there a real advantage to mixing it all together? Seems like a nice neat stripe of spawn would have a better chance at an even pinset.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Rot]
    #25720943 - 01/03/19 12:58 PM (5 years, 27 days ago)

I'd open it up, looks a bit wet


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25720951 - 01/03/19 01:02 PM (5 years, 27 days ago)

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I'd open it up, looks a bit wet




How far open are we talking? Lid off completely or just flip the lid?


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Rot]
    #25721047 - 01/03/19 01:38 PM (5 years, 27 days ago)

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Rot said:How far open are we talking? Lid off completely or just flip the lid?



Flipping the lid of a shoebox lets in a TON of air. My early problems involved me trying to mod bod's unbodded monotub tek to shoeboxes... flipping the lids made my substrate dry like a stone. Should be good enough.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: ShaperDreaming]
    #25721319 - 01/03/19 04:20 PM (5 years, 27 days ago)

FEELING NERVOUS

Can I get an expert eye to look at my shoebox surfaces please? Some boxes are sidepinning like crazy but I'm not sure what that means about my surface conditions. Boxes have lids flipped with plenty of FAE, misting a couple of times a day. Weather is hot here (22C - 29C) on average with humidity around 60%

Some boxes are starting to pin on the surface.


Box 1: 19 December:




Box 2: 19 December:




Box 3: 23 December:




Box 4: 23 December:



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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: One Up]
    #25721426 - 01/03/19 05:35 PM (5 years, 27 days ago)

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Interesting thanks for the reply.

I'm also doing my tubs with a layer of spawn (about an inch thick) sandwiched between 2 layers of coir. Seems to colonize very fast and very evenly. Is there a real advantage to mixing it all together? Seems like a nice neat stripe of spawn would have a better chance at an even pinset.



I know layering used to be really common. I think most people have found that mixing it up was giving them faster colonization and more even pinsets. It's just not very common to see layering much anymore.

Bongoman - Tub 1 is trash man. You got some serious mold happening. Rest I don't see anything bad or matted. I think jsut some patience, or try top layer. I'm not the best at colonized surfaces, maybe someone sees something I don't.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: bongoman] * 1
    #25721443 - 01/03/19 05:43 PM (5 years, 27 days ago)

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FEELING NERVOUS

Can I get an expert eye to look at my shoebox surfaces please? Some boxes are sidepinning like crazy but I'm not sure what that means about my surface conditions. Boxes have lids flipped with plenty of FAE, misting a couple of times a day. Weather is hot here (22C - 29C) on average with humidity around 60%

Some boxes are starting to pin on the surface.


Box 1: 19 December:




Box 2: 19 December:




Box 3: 23 December:




Box 4: 23 December:





Don't proclaim expertise per se, but looks like it's matted from drying out and then overmisting... how's your FAE setup,  still snapped?


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