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Psicomb



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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Rot]
#25699786 - 12/24/18 09:13 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Settle down there Rot lol. You gotta improvise since you messed up and picked up the loose coir. Just put it in a bucket and fill it with water until it is at field capacity or something. I had the same coir situation when I first started and heads up it contams much quicker than a brick since it already has been sitting for who knows how long with some moisture in it. My bag started to get moldy after 2 or 3 weeks.
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LtLurker
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Rot] 1
#25699813 - 12/24/18 09:21 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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People put a bunch of time and detail into those stickies, so that the community doesn't have to answer the same basic questions everyday. If you can't follow directions without a supervisor at every step, well that's a you problem, not a forum problem.
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Rot
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: LtLurker]
#25699820 - 12/24/18 09:24 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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LtLurker said:

People put a bunch of time and detail into those stickies, so that the community doesn't have to answer the same basic questions everyday. If you can't follow directions without a supervisor at every step, well that's a you problem, not a forum problem.
Can't follow directions? If you take someone who has never grown before and have them read one of these guides not a single person would be able to grow from them. There are so many different things and variables that are left out of these guides.
Then when I PM'd you a question you decide to reply with "don't pm me". You are a toxic piece of shit.
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Caps McGee
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: LtLurker] 1
#25699832 - 12/24/18 09:28 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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The loose coir will work fine... measure out 8 quarts:that's a brick... add 3-3.5 quarts of boiling water, and let it sit overnight before use... I'm not understanding what's so confusing or difficult here?
I grew directly from teks, before I even registered and posted... it can be done with the right tek, followed to the "T", and some patience... your frustration lies with stress, not the individuals in this thread who are trying to help... ya know?
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mushroomnate
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Rot said: then perhaps I shouldn't be here.
That could possibly be the case. There are a lot of helpful members here that will help guide you in the right direction,hell some more than others.(step by step) I feel that research and trial & error are great teachers in themselves. Teach a man to fish....... Everyone here is willing to help,but we're not gonna grow them for you. The more I see your replies the more I feel you may not be ready to grow the mushroom.
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ithikuss
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Caps McGee said: The loose coir will work fine... measure out 8 quarts:that's a brick... add 3-3.5 quarts of boiling water, and let it sit overnight before use... I'm not understanding what's so confusing or difficult here?
I grew directly from teks, before I even registered and posted... it can be done with the right tek, followed to the "T", and some patience... your frustration lies with stress, not the individuals in this thread who are trying to help... ya know?
 If you can read and follow directions, it's like a cake recipe with an extremely long bake time.... eventually you stop having to look at the cookbook and it's all instinct... I started trying bulk out like a few months ago, and now I have done like 20 shoeboxes... and more fungus than I'll ever know what to do with... gave about a QP to my ma for christmas
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LtLurker
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Rot]
#25699850 - 12/24/18 09:34 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Rot said:
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LtLurker said:

People put a bunch of time and detail into those stickies, so that the community doesn't have to answer the same basic questions everyday. If you can't follow directions without a supervisor at every step, well that's a you problem, not a forum problem.
Can't follow directions? If you take someone who has never grown before and have them read one of these guides not a single person would be able to grow from them. There are so many different things and variables that are left out of these guides.
Then when I PM'd you a question you decide to reply with "don't pm me". You are a toxic piece of shit.
This will be my last response cause we getting way off topic now, but that response is full of shit.
I responded I will answer you in the thread not in pm, then repeated your question and answered it. It's common practice to respond in public threads so it can be read and corrected. I don't like pm'ing questions.
As Caps touched on, I also grew for months succesfully just reading the site before I ever made an account. So have many others here.
I help people nearly everyday here in the getting started forum, you're one of the few to be a dick instead of reading the links given and trying. It's not hard, none of this is hard. Read.
Edited by LtLurker (12/24/18 09:35 AM)
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ithikuss
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: LtLurker]
#25699862 - 12/24/18 09:38 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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LtLurker said:
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Rot said:
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LtLurker said:

People put a bunch of time and detail into those stickies, so that the community doesn't have to answer the same basic questions everyday. If you can't follow directions without a supervisor at every step, well that's a you problem, not a forum problem.
Can't follow directions? If you take someone who has never grown before and have them read one of these guides not a single person would be able to grow from them. There are so many different things and variables that are left out of these guides.
Then when I PM'd you a question you decide to reply with "don't pm me". You are a toxic piece of shit.
This will be my last response cause we getting way off topic now, but that response is full of shit.
I responded I will answer you in the thread not in pm, then repeated your question and answered it. It's common practice to respond in public threads so it can be read and corrected. I don't like pm'ing questions.
As Caps touched on, I also grew for months succesfully just reading the site before I ever made an account. So have many others here.
I help people nearly everyday here in the getting started forum, you're one of the few to be a dick instead of reading the links given and trying. It's not hard, none of this is hard. Read.
Yeah bro, a whole page of asking every step isn't helpful for yourself, especially when half is common sense shyte... IMO LtLurker here gave you a whole lot of answers and links and shit... more than I woulda bothered at that point. I am a heres a link or two, good luck. or an opinion on what my eyes see in a 'how's this look?' question.... Not just bias either cuz LtLurker is a cool dude
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mushroomnate said:
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The more I see your replies the more I feel you may not be ready to grow the mushroom.
Or ready to consume them! Chances are, their message to you will be a slap in the face... I don't know you from Adam, and don't make assumptions... but based on the defensive nature of your responses here, you don't take kindly to contrary... A bit of maturity will take you much further than finger pointing and making excuses...
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Rot said: then perhaps I shouldn't be here.
This reminds me of something my 6 year old would say: made me giggle... you're well on your way, don't let a bit of impatience and frustration get in your way,or burn bridges
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LtLurker
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: USMiro]
#25699888 - 12/24/18 09:47 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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USMiro said: Here ya go!
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18182209
I think we all missed brainbulb's question. Good post Miro! I made slants pretty much the same way from what I see scrolling through it.
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Caps McGee
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: LtLurker]
#25699893 - 12/24/18 09:48 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's the tek I use for slants as well
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n2gourmet
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: LtLurker]
#25699904 - 12/24/18 09:53 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you have to much water in the coir when you're done just squeeze it out hand full at a time. Add a little verm if you need to. I had to do that because my coir was already expanded from my other ventures in growing and 3.5 quarts was way to much water.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: LtLurker]
#25699906 - 12/24/18 09:54 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Rot said: then perhaps I shouldn't be here.
That could possibly be the case. There are a lot of helpful members here that will help guide you in the right direction,hell some more than others.(step by step) I feel that research and trial & error are great teachers in themselves. Teach a man to fish....... Everyone here has been willing to help,but with Quote:
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USMiro said: Here ya go!
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18182209
I think we all missed brainbulb's question. Good post Miro! I made slants pretty much the same way from what I see scrolling through it.
 Gonna have to look into this.The stack o pastyplates in the fridge is'nt the "look" I'm going for.
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Caps McGee
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Slants are definitely more space convenient
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I have 4 boxes, 3 are colonising very fast, 1 very slowly, all with the same ratio of spawn to substrate.
I'm guessing the slow colonisation in one box might indicate bacterial contamination. The slow box smells like cheap vodka, or a bit like iso propyl. It's not an unpleasant smell but I suspect it's not a good sign?
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: bongoman] 1
#25700285 - 12/24/18 12:57 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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LtLurker
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: bongoman]
#25700301 - 12/24/18 01:02 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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bongoman said: I have 4 boxes, 3 are colonising very fast, 1 very slowly, all with the same ratio of spawn to substrate.
I'm guessing the slow colonisation in one box might indicate bacterial contamination. The slow box smells like cheap vodka, or a bit like iso propyl. It's not an unpleasant smell but I suspect it's not a good sign?
trust your nose. That's not what you want. Smelling bad before colonized rarely gives fruits ime.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: LtLurker]
#25700345 - 12/24/18 01:26 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Another quick question re lids.
I'm using these boxes:
https://sistemaplastics.com/products/klip-it-rectangular/7l-rectangle
Which have a silicone gasket and four clips designed to create an airtight seal.
I'm wondering if having the box fully clamped during colonisation might be too anaerobic?
For now I've removed the gasket and have the lids on unclasped during colonisation.
Any thoughts appreciated.
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Caps McGee
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: bongoman]
#25700356 - 12/24/18 01:32 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'd just flip it... Leave it unclamped at minimum ... what you've done should work fine, never a need to be air tight: toss the gaskets lol
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