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Enkidu
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Brain Bulb said: In Bod’s SB Tek he mentioned to ways to start SB’s. 1.) Mix GS with sub and case it or 2.) Just put the GS in and add your sub on top. I decided to go with the later of the two this time.
And yes, so far it’s about 1/2 way to the top around the edges. (I know it looks wet, just misted).

That doesn't look good bro and you really shouldn't be misting sub that isn't even 100% colonized yet.
It just fucks with your water content in a negative way, making it harder to colonize and more suceptible to contam
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Failboat
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Enkidu]
#25616602 - 11/15/18 02:36 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Brain Bulb
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Enkidu]
#25616632 - 11/15/18 02:53 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enkidu said:
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Brain Bulb said: In Bod’s SB Tek he mentioned to ways to start SB’s. 1.) Mix GS with sub and case it or 2.) Just put the GS in and add your sub on top. I decided to go with the later of the two this time.
And yes, so far it’s about 1/2 way to the top around the edges. (I know it looks wet, just misted).

That doesn't look good bro and you really shouldn't be misting sub that isn't even 100% colonized yet.
It just fucks with your water content in a negative way, making it harder to colonize and more suceptible to contam
Yeah I was worried about that so I added some FAE holes covered with MPT this morning. I won’t be watering anymore. I didn’t know it affected colonization though. Very good to know. Thanks!
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ithikuss
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Yeah... no need to even mist on first flush usually, though sometimes.. If thats just a regular shoebox, it won't need holes, fae from the lid is enough. Also, that's to metabolited out and yellow, I expect black gooey to show up not to far behind... I'd chuck it, get it out of the house and start on the next project.
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Failboat
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: ithikuss]
#25616733 - 11/15/18 03:40 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Every time I mist i fuck it up....
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dont trust midgets
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: ithikuss]
#25616735 - 11/15/18 03:40 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Damn! I thought I had some shorties from my last flush, but yours take the cake.
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ithikuss
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dont trust midgets said: Damn! I thought I had some shorties from my last flush, but yours take the cake.
lol right? pretty sure was the genetics going on in the syringe that, and the last 3 tubs came from.... though I got almost 1/2 lb from them (qp on first flush, then more from flowing flushes.) and still a few giants fruits coming from their 3rd flush, soooo... can't complain... I have expectations of some with actual stems from the clones coming soon to a picture near you..
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Failboat
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: ithikuss]
#25616771 - 11/15/18 03:51 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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I had some odd genetics like that with my TYC
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ithikuss
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Failboat]
#25616806 - 11/15/18 04:08 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Long as they work eh? lol. They seem to pack a bit of a punch, not that I have a chance to grow anything to compare them to. (other than when I was a pf cake daveler here n there like once a year..). Thank goodness we can get a David from prometheus like and mess with the genetics and clone em for better next tubs tehe...
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: ithikuss]
#25616815 - 11/15/18 04:14 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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I ran a few pounds of TYC so far, although I don't know exactly how much as I have stopped counting, and all reviews have been positive. I figure the chodes have less stem weight overall and so if the caps actually are more potent then yes short fuckers FTW, but idk. I cloned a medium height guy with a solid tem so I hopw it's relatively potent and I'm set.
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Tormato said:
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Brain Bulb said:
Box #2: (Started 11/10. This pic is from 11/11 and my GS is just about ready for 2 more SB’s. Trying different subs, casings, etc.)

Can’t wait!
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Jesus! How much casing did you use?

This might be too much on top. You could get a good flush with a lot less casing.I used to do my boxes like that in the past(just cased spawn,no bulk sub)and it can work out well,but that thick layer (along with what I want to say is overmisting)seems to invite this IMO...
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I would go something around .5 inch-1 inch max. I got one going with about 1/2 inch. You still get the "cool" rhizo.
 Also,stop misting your tubs! If your sub was at field capacity,there should be no need to mist until full colonization at the earliest.
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Brain Bulb
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#25617417 - 11/15/18 09:00 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks all for giving me some constructive advice to work with! I’ll definitely use the info going forward.
Picked up some wood pellets today to use as my spawning material for future Caerulescens grows. Would a grain to wood pellet transfer work? Think that would be better since it is a wood lover.
In the meantime the second flush on my SB’s are coming along! Decided to leave them in my FC and I’m glad I did.
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Brain Bulb said: In the meantime the second flush on my SB’s are coming along! Decided to leave them in my FC and I’m glad I did.

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Psicomb]
#25617736 - 11/16/18 12:29 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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MagickMushroom
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Looking good, bro. I see you have side pins too. Mushrooms are pretty cool and unpredictable. I know there's a lot of info on avoiding side pins, with some people saying it doesn't make a difference, but it's always cool to see side pins. They can be a challenge to harvest, but some of the biggest flushes my friend has had were from side pins, even though the light source was from atop.
But yea, I know this has already been said, but you really don't need to mist your shoebox directly after spawning, especially if your field capacity is dialed in. You'll want to wait 3 to 10 days to let it fully colonize. Then, once the whole thing is fully colonized, you can add a layer of casing on top, if you want. Some people swear by casing, others say it causes contams whenever they use it.
While there are definite principles/guidelines to growing healthy mushrooms, I think this is a very personal and *YOU*nique method, depending on the person, the straing, the geographic location/climate, and quality of materials/supplies used. That's probably why there is so much conflicting info and advice on the forums and Youtube.
Anyway, nice work so far, can't wait to see your updates.
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Brain Bulb
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MagickMushroom said: Looking good, bro. I see you have side pins too. Mushrooms are pretty cool and unpredictable. I know there's a lot of info on avoiding side pins, with some people saying it doesn't make a difference, but it's always cool to see side pins. They can be a challenge to harvest, but some of the biggest flushes my friend has had were from side pins, even though the light source was from atop.
But yea, I know this has already been said, but you really don't need to mist your shoebox directly after spawning, especially if your field capacity is dialed in. You'll want to wait 3 to 10 days to let it fully colonize. Then, once the whole thing is fully colonized, you can add a layer of casing on top, if you want. Some people swear by casing, others say it causes contams whenever they use it.
While there are definite principles/guidelines to growing healthy mushrooms, I think this is a very personal and *YOU*nique method, depending on the person, the straing, the geographic location/climate, and quality of materials/supplies used. That's probably why there is so much conflicting info and advice on the forums and Youtube.
Anyway, nice work so far, can't wait to see your updates.
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Brain Bulb said: SB #2 taking off!

Thanks MM!
Wasn’t my intention at all but there were way more side pins showing than pins on top so I figured I’d put them in a FC and let them do their thing. It’s basically just a large cake... One species had real skinny pins and a ton of them on the first flush so they were a pain to harvest but the other wasn’t bad at all. They both started to do the same thing after I soaked them so I might as well run with it and see how the second flush turns out.
The funny thing is the box started with about 80% side pins on the first flush is now fruiting mainly on top.
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Legend21
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Anybody Know why my clone cultures keep ending up being small mushrooms? This is probably the third variety that has done it to me and I never cloned small fruits 
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Enkidu
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Legend21]
#25619523 - 11/16/18 06:16 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Spawn and pinset
Low spawn and big pinset equals smaller fruits
More spawn and less pinset equals bigger fruits
You guys agree ?
I like more small fruits all closed veil as of late
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Legend21]
#25619547 - 11/16/18 06:28 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Legend21 said: Anybody Know why my clone cultures keep ending up being small mushrooms? This is probably the third variety that has done it to me and I never cloned small fruits 

Did the yield change? I know my b+ makes a pile of small fruits but the yield is going up compared to previous shoe boxes. I kept the same spawn ratio the lighting has changed a little, days getting shorter, but overall everything is the same. The only difference is its T3 instead of the T2 plates, I think it's a genetic thing but I'm no expert. Nice flush keep up the good work.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: MH5109]
#25619562 - 11/16/18 06:41 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enkidu said: Spawn and pinset
Low spawn and big pinset equals smaller fruits
More spawn and less pinset equals bigger fruits
You guys agree ?
I like more small fruits all closed veil as of late
I guess that’s a possibility. Seems like multi spore has done better for me then clone cultures so far but I should try more spawn.
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Legend21 said: Anybody Know why my clone cultures keep ending up being small mushrooms? This is probably the third variety that has done it to me and I never cloned small fruits 

Did the yield change? I know my b+ makes a pile of small fruits but the yield is going up compared to previous shoe boxes. I kept the same spawn ratio the lighting has changed a little, days getting shorter, but overall everything is the same. The only difference is its T3 instead of the T2 plates, I think it's a genetic thing but I'm no expert. Nice flush keep up the good work.
I’ll have to check when these are fully dried. I think my B+ clone was a little less on total yield. Probably is just because it’s a better pinset. Glad to know it’s not just me then I figured I was doing something wrong.
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