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Caps McGee
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It happens, but can be avoided ... I get best results with a 2 hour float, and then a significant surface misting the following day or second day afterwards... then treat it like a cake: maintaining surface moisture, allowing evaporation to occur between mistings to stimulate pinning
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Caps McGee said: It happens, but can be avoided ... I get best results with a 2 hour float, and then a significant surface misting the following day or second day afterwards... then treat it like a cake: maintaining surface moisture, allowing evaporation to occur between mistings to stimulate pinning
Alright I'll try that out with my next boxes. I think my problem must be that I'm not misting frequently enough after floating the sub. After the first flush and floating the sub, do you usually have to mist fairly frequently? In order to maintain surface moisture I think I'd have to mist at least once a day after the first flush.
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My boxes contain subs and ovoids.. i think i better wait for fall temps, possibly do a bit of a cold shock, and add some water and sandy (preferably river)mud to simulate a landslide.
Cause they're looking nice and all but not doing shit at room temp
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Caps McGee
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Solipsis]
#25472826 - 09/19/18 01:30 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes, usually daily, twice a day if it's hot, 3rd flush or later, or the sub had dried significantly at some point (seems to be much more difficult to get/keep hydrated... keep at it, as long as secondary decomposers don't start, it'll flush... side pins are still fruit!
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flyhighfunguy


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Caps McGee said: Yes, usually daily, twice a day if it's hot, 3rd flush or later, or the sub had dried significantly at some point (seems to be much more difficult to get/keep hydrated... keep at it, as long as secondary decomposers don't start, it'll flush... side pins are still fruit!
Alright yea thats definitely my problem then. I havent been misting them nearly enough. I've definitely noticed thats its more difficult to keep proper moisture during later flushes. During my first flush its basically set and forget. However during the later flushes misting becomes much more necessary. I appreciate the help, ive got some jars colonizing now so ill have some new boxes going soon to try this out with
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Caps McGee
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Hellz to the yeah bro bro!
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TheMadHatter420
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That happens more with later flushes as the gap between substrate and FC can cause a good micro climate. Keep surface conditions good and you shouldn't get bottom pins at least.
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Caps McGee
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TMH420, how much that fruit in your avatar weigh? Is it in the proper location yet? She's a beaut!
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Twin APE boxes knotting up.
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Caps McGee
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Got my damned mouth watering, you're figuring those APE out huh? Have to change your name to mushroomAPE! can't wait to work with it
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I noticed my 1st PE shoe-boxes are pulling from the edge early. From my few grows I usually don't see that until the first flush on regular cubes.
If I remember correctly, PE is a slow colonizing thirsty verity and it's recommended to bottom water after pins form?
It's 9 days in with only a sprinkling of substrate, enough to cover the exposed millet (no official casing per-say). Top has been latched down the whole time. 1:2 Spawn to sub.
I am thinking just let it go, just mist to keep the condensation on the mycellium until knots and primordia start forming. Then flip the lid and then bottom water. Am I on the right line of thinking here?
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Cthulhu23
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There arenβt that many, but the ones that are there are big! Purdy, too. B+ 2qts oat spawn. 2nd half of the 1st flush. Pulled 56g wet off the 1st 3 shrooms that opened a few days ago. Harvesting tonight and I think Iβm going to print these seeing as how pretty they are.
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Caps McGee said: Got my damned mouth watering, you're figuring those APE out huh? Have to change your name to mushroomAPE! can't wait to work with it
Thanks. I'm working on it.Those APE boxes are some of the last "cake" boxes I've got going. Gonna be spawning some different APE clones that I have on grain here pretty soon.We'll see how that adventure goes.
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Caps McGee
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R.I.P.Zappa said: I noticed my 1st PE shoe-boxes are pulling from the edge early. From my few grows I usually don't see that until the first flush on regular cubes.
If I remember correctly, PE is a slow colonizing thirsty verity and it's recommended to bottom water after pins form?
It's 9 days in with only a sprinkling of substrate, enough to cover the exposed millet (no official casing per-say). Top has been latched down the whole time. 1:2 Spawn to sub.
I am thinking just let it go, just mist to keep the condensation on the mycellium until knots and primordia start forming. Then flip the lid and then bottom water. Am I on the right line of thinking here?

I don't know if I'd bottom water until closer to harvest, I've not grown pe, but I've noticed bottom watering too early with other varieties can slow things down a bit... depends on how dry it is really... subs can shrink significantly and still have water, but you don't wanna let it go too far either... you've got a handle on things, and if you think you need to bottom water to rehydrate, go for it! You'll learn something about the variety either way!
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Cthulhu23
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Cthulhu23]
#25473934 - 09/19/18 09:40 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cthulhu23 said: There arenβt that many, but the ones that are there are big! Purdy, too. B+ 2qts oat spawn. 2nd half of the 1st flush. Pulled 56g wet off the 1st 3 shrooms that opened a few days ago. Harvesting tonight and I think Iβm going to print these seeing as how pretty they are.

What you see here ended up being 183g wet. Combined with the 3 shrooms from yesterday (55g) that opened earlier, the 1st flush was 238g wet. Best Iβve gotten so far!
Printing 6 of the caps as they were decently sized and are symmetrical.
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YarnDi
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Cthulhu23]
#25474281 - 09/20/18 02:23 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Another GT Box fruiting

This one is just starting to pin
Edited by YarnDi (09/20/18 03:09 AM)
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mortuu
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: YarnDi]
#25474672 - 09/20/18 07:47 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey fellas I am back My last attempt was failed and i decided to start again. I have found a shoebox model like this one

There is a hole on side of the box for air exchange, idk how efficient it is. What do you think? will it work?
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mortuu]
#25474674 - 09/20/18 07:52 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why wouldnt it?
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mortuu
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: JHOVA]
#25474788 - 09/20/18 08:55 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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I will give a shot and let all you know
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Caps McGee
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mortuu]
#25474941 - 09/20/18 10:22 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just a 50 cent, unmodified 6qt container works... shoebox not really large enough to require or benefit from a hole for FAE... prolly dry out fast
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