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FuzzyColony
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I did PESA, Cambodia, and AA+ in separate boxes, and I did a box that was half PESA and half Cambodia. I didn't see much of a difference, so I'm guessing it was the conditions, which were variable. That said, I used six 8oz BRF cakes (1.5qt) to inoculate about 4qt sub, and I think I got a solid 1+ oz out of it. Going to make conditions more consistent this time. Thanks for the feedback!
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scab eater
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Have a shoebox that is almost 100% after 3 days! Fastest colonization I have ever seen
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FishLevelMidnight
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Caps McGee said: Just let it sit under a foil tent in the SAB for a bit... 

That's right. I will put them under glass or foil for 12-24 H to ensure they are dry (helps combat bacteria) before wrapping in foil for storage/shipment.
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Apc123
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I love this tek I use it all the time. I also think its a great idea if u have a jar that might be questionable, like if u think it might be bacterial or something u can just use this tek and fruit it by itself just in case thanks again this has got me plenty of mushies 
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Caps McGee
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scab eater said: Have a shoebox that is almost 100% after 3 days! Fastest colonization I have ever seen
No pic, never happened lol
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Mateja


Registered: 07/14/16
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scab eater said: Have a shoebox that is almost 100% after 3 days! Fastest colonization I have ever seen
That's normal for spawned BRF cakes but for grains it's almost alarming.. what did you use and how much of it?
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mushfuss
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Mateja]
#25390692 - 08/15/18 05:30 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm thinking about trying this, nice writeup.
Thanks for the humidity chamber tek, Mateah.
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Asura
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Zero Nowhere said: I've never tried an albino or leucistic. They sure look cool though. Especially nates. He had some awesome pe too a while back.
Honestly, everybody's grows look cool. Will these fucking shoeboxes fruit already??!
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Zero Nowhere
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Asura]
#25390709 - 08/15/18 05:38 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah I know. All pe looks bad ass. I'm gonna have to try it some day
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Psicomb



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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Apc123]
#25390710 - 08/15/18 05:38 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Apc123 said: I love this tek I use it all the time. I also think its a great idea if u have a jar that might be questionable, like if u think it might be bacterial or something u can just use this tek and fruit it by itself just in case thanks again this has got me plenty of mushies 

Agreed. I've been doing more monos lately but shoeboxes have been a godsend for jars that didn't make the team for my monos.
P.S. nice shroomies
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Mateja


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushfuss]
#25390775 - 08/15/18 06:04 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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mushfuss said: I'm thinking about trying this, nice writeup.
Thanks for the humidity chamber tek, Mateah.
Hope you grow some mushies friend!
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pixelpopper
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Psicomb]
#25390796 - 08/15/18 06:12 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Psicomvb said:
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Apc123 said: I also think its a great idea if u have a jar that might be questionable, like if u think it might be bacterial or something u can just use this tek and fruit it by itself just in case 
Agreed. I've been doing more monos lately but shoeboxes have been a godsend for jars that didn't make the team for my monos.
Yep.. my primary use for shoeboxes at this point
Edited by pixelpopper (08/15/18 06:12 PM)
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Proton_California
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#25391291 - 08/15/18 10:19 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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mushboy said: I was bored. made a shoebox write up. couldnt find too many. made it simple.
Experience shoeboxes Small spawn trays by Ziran Stoopid simple way to fruit your shoebox
GET YOUR FIELD CAPACITY DOWN!!
Shoeboxes are a lot of fun. they are a great go-between from trays in a sgfc to full blown monos. a normal tote can hold 3 shoeboxes/trays. You can also just crack the lid and fruit inside its own tote. super multitasking.

Each tray can hold up to six quarts. you can make some hefty trays with a 1:1 ratio. normally i do 2 quarts spawn and 2quarts cvg. Filling up the mono with the trays is basically they same as doing a mono. the same principals of the mono are in play. a good thing is that if 1 tray goes bad you can localize and toss it without disrupting the remaining trays. seeing a speck of trich on a gaint mono sucks ass.
I use 80qt totes.

Each shoebox is about a dollar depending on where you shop. i prefer to grab them at target. the ones at mega hardware stores are always filthy with thick dust. the ones at target are always super clean. i avoid walmart at all costs.

Get you spawn ready! today will be 2 quarts of AA+, 2q of mexican(cube) and 1q from a jar that had the label fall off. oops. 

Take your coco based substrate(I PCed mine in 4qt batches)

Then i dump my spawn in the shoebox.
 dump in 1.5 quarts... roughly.. of PCVG.

Mix it all up really good. get in the corners. be thorough. I just use gloves wiped with iso. you can go bare handed but i hate dirty nails.
 Make it as level as you possibly can. I get really upset with myself if i do not make them level.
I then clean up the edges with a wet iso cloth and apply the remaining half Q(roughly) as a top layer to cover grains and make level.

4 total quarts fills it right to the fabricated ridge in the tote. makes leveling easier 
  SUPER OCD ABOUT BEING LEVEL!
Sometimes you realize you didnt mix it up that well.. its not a big deal but try to mix it up your best.

Thats all. repeat as needed. Label as desired. I like to label with..
-variety -date when tray was made(today) -how much and what type of sub used
when you have lot of different things going, proper labeling is super important
 (i cracked my tote. fixed it with packing tape. who cares)
So this is essentially a monotub but the boxes inside just compartmentalize any potential breakout of contamination?
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Mateja


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The shoeboxes are what holds the substrate and the monotub which the cakes are inside of is the FC kind of.
Most growers fruit straight from the shoebox with the lid on but you could also fruit like in the last pic.
It's not to compartmenalize contamination even tho spawning 4 jars to 4 shoeboxes instead of spawning all 4 jars in the same tub
Gives you an advantage in case one of the jar was bad.
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Proton_California
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Mateja]
#25391439 - 08/16/18 12:25 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mateah said: The shoeboxes are what holds the substrate and the monotub which the cakes are inside of is the FC kind of.
Most growers fruit straight from the shoebox with the lid on but you could also fruit like in the last pic.
It's not to compartmenalize contamination even tho spawning 4 jars to 4 shoeboxes instead of spawning all 4 jars in the same tub
Gives you an advantage in case one of the jar was bad.
Awesome
Thanks for the reply
What method would you suggest for first grow?
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Mateja


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If you're working with agar I would suggest this method, and if you're working with spores
I would suggest PF Tek>fruiting cakes or PF Tek>spawning cakes
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mushboy
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Proton_California said: So this is essentially a monotub but the boxes inside just compartmentalize any potential breakout of contamination?
anyone got any 1000liter tubs? id like to see 3 60-80~ quart monos inside a giant 1k liter mono
wait a minute.. thats basically a closet/greenhouse...
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Caps McGee
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#25391916 - 08/16/18 08:55 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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MUSHBOY! What up thug?
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mushboy
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no thug life. i got nothing mushroom related going. hence the lack of posting.
ghetto pass revoked
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Proton_California
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Mateja]
#25392031 - 08/16/18 10:11 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mateah said: If you're working with agar I would suggest this method, and if you're working with spores
I would suggest PF Tek>fruiting cakes or PF Tek>spawning cakes
Thank you - very helpful Mateah
Here is my first run ... I have only gotten to the inoculation/spawning phase
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25387743#25387743
Edited by Proton_California (08/16/18 10:12 AM)
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