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Puduwoke
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ttching8475 said: Spawned my first shoebox last night.

Join the club mate!
Keep us updated with pictures! Guys a second question. My mushrooms open the veils "early" very small mushrooms. I read it could be to wet substrate or genetics, it was a MS after all. My question is. Could it be because my GH was at 94-97%RH during the whole time? Should I lower the RH to around 90% When my pinset is in? Thanks!
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Re: Making shoe-boxes [Re: Puduwoke]
#25381809 - 08/11/18 02:42 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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They don't "open early "... genetics or conditions, do they look wet, or have wavy caps? Fuzzy feet? All these are subjective, pictures?
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Last of four shoeboxes from a GT clone>agar>agar>agar>oats>CV
  
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flyhighfunguy said: I posted this in the AA+ thread as well but figured id post it here as well for some mixed opinions.
Im growing my first run of AA+ right now using shoeboxes with 2 quarts each. Im noticing that pretty much all of the caps have a blue-ish hue to them, almost like they've been bruised. Some are so blue that they almost look black. Is this normal, and if so what causes this? Also, what do you guys think of the pinset? Its not as dense as some of my past ones, however, the fruits are by far the fattest ive ever seen.
 
Towards the bottom left of the tub you can see the super fat mushroom with the almost blue/black looking cap that i mentioned. Id almost think it was an abort if it wasnt getting so fat/still growing.
Just popped the dub tub off for another look at those weird looking AA+'s, and they are starting to grow pretty rapidly now. The caps are just barely starting to open up, so i think these are gonna be some pretty nicely sized fruits. The caps range from beige, to sky blue, to dark blue, however none of them seem to be aborts. The stems are incredibly fat and thick.
 Not the best picture, but you can see good enough i hope.
Just checked the weird looking AA+ tubs again today because i thought the veils were breaking, but none of the veils are even tearing at all yet. These things just keep looking weirder and weirder. No cubensis ive grown yet has had caps this shape/color, and they've got the fattest stems ive ever grown. You guys think its just some weird AA+ genetics?
 
Edited by flyhighfunguy (08/11/18 07:39 PM)
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Enkidu
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Enkidu]
#25382397 - 08/11/18 07:52 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enkidu said: Sweet tub
Thanks, its definitely turning out way better than expected. The spawn took forever to colonize, probably like a month and a half. Right now im just wondering how i should go about a second flush tho. When you bottom water to prepare for a flush, do you also give it a misting as well? Ive been getting bottom/side pins when only bottom watering, so im wondering if i should bottom water and then also mist the top until its glistening. I usually have tons of moisture on top during the first flush but not much during later flushes.
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Enkidu
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I usually dump in water then wait and see where pins emerge and flip the sub if it's pinning on the bottom edges or flip it on its side if they're all over
Usually I just water for hours then forget about it and mist here and there if I want or don't or mist fruits or I'm lazy
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Enkidu]
#25382411 - 08/11/18 07:59 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enkidu said: I usually dump in water then wait and see where pins emerge and flip the sub if it's pinning on the bottom edges or flip it on its side if they're all over
Usually I just water for hours then forget about it and mist here and there if I want or don't or mist fruits or I'm lazy 
How do you safely remove the sub and flip it if you've got some bottom pins growing? I've got a 4th flush tub with a good amount of them, i just dont want to abort them or anything when trying to flip it.
If i bottom watered, and then also misted, do you think i could avoid the bottom/side pins altogether?
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flyhighfunguy said: I posted this in the AA+ thread as well but figured id post it here as well for some mixed opinions.
Im growing my first run of AA+ right now using shoeboxes with 2 quarts each. Im noticing that pretty much all of the caps have a blue-ish hue to them, almost like they've been bruised. Some are so blue that they almost look black. Is this normal, and if so what causes this? Also, what do you guys think of the pinset? Its not as dense as some of my past ones, however, the fruits are by far the fattest ive ever seen.
 
Towards the bottom left of the tub you can see the super fat mushroom with the almost blue/black looking cap that i mentioned. Id almost think it was an abort if it wasnt getting so fat/still growing.
Just popped the dub tub off for another look at those weird looking AA+'s, and they are starting to grow pretty rapidly now. The caps are just barely starting to open up, so i think these are gonna be some pretty nicely sized fruits. The caps range from beige, to sky blue, to dark blue, however none of them seem to be aborts. The stems are incredibly fat and thick.
 Not the best picture, but you can see good enough i hope.
Just checked the weird looking AA+ tubs again today because i thought the veils were breaking, but none of the veils are even tearing at all yet. These things just keep looking weirder and weirder. No cubensis ive grown yet has had caps this shape/color, and they've got the fattest stems ive ever grown. You guys think its just some weird AA+ genetics?
  
That's a winner flyhighfunguy!! Great job!
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Yeah it is a nice tub.
I just put my hand flat on the sub then flip it over then pull the plastic tub off then drop it back in the tub upside down.
Ime it's hard not to get side pins and bottom pins because that's like the last places the water evaps so the extra moisture seems to cause pin formation there.
Imo it doesn't really matter much where the second flush pins pop up, I just try to make sure they have space to grow wherever they do
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Stick a second empty shoebox inside the one with the substrate like you're stacking them. Flip the tubs upside down with the substrate sandwiched in between, lift the original shoebox off the substrate, and voila you have the substrate sitting on top of the bottom of a 6qt sterilite like a little table for it.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Enkidu]
#25382477 - 08/11/18 08:34 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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mushroomnate said:
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flyhighfunguy said:
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flyhighfunguy said:
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flyhighfunguy said: I posted this in the AA+ thread as well but figured id post it here as well for some mixed opinions.
Im growing my first run of AA+ right now using shoeboxes with 2 quarts each. Im noticing that pretty much all of the caps have a blue-ish hue to them, almost like they've been bruised. Some are so blue that they almost look black. Is this normal, and if so what causes this? Also, what do you guys think of the pinset? Its not as dense as some of my past ones, however, the fruits are by far the fattest ive ever seen.
 
Towards the bottom left of the tub you can see the super fat mushroom with the almost blue/black looking cap that i mentioned. Id almost think it was an abort if it wasnt getting so fat/still growing.
Just popped the dub tub off for another look at those weird looking AA+'s, and they are starting to grow pretty rapidly now. The caps are just barely starting to open up, so i think these are gonna be some pretty nicely sized fruits. The caps range from beige, to sky blue, to dark blue, however none of them seem to be aborts. The stems are incredibly fat and thick.
 Not the best picture, but you can see good enough i hope.
Just checked the weird looking AA+ tubs again today because i thought the veils were breaking, but none of the veils are even tearing at all yet. These things just keep looking weirder and weirder. No cubensis ive grown yet has had caps this shape/color, and they've got the fattest stems ive ever grown. You guys think its just some weird AA+ genetics?
  
That's a winner flyhighfunguy!! Great job!
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Enkidu said: Yeah it is a nice tub.
I just put my hand flat on the sub then flip it over then pull the plastic tub off then drop it back in the tub upside down.
Ime it's hard not to get side pins and bottom pins because that's like the last places the water evaps so the extra moisture seems to cause pin formation there.
Imo it doesn't really matter much where the second flush pins pop up, I just try to make sure they have space to grow wherever they do
Lol i appreciate it guys, im super excited about these tubs. And alright sweet ill try that out. When this flush is over should i flip the sub back over so the surface is facing up again before i bottom water it, or do you just leave the sub flipped and bottom water it like that?
EDIT: Also, i just thought about this. There are a handful of pins on top also, and a few on the sides as well. However, there are a ton of pins on the bottom. What would you do in this situation you think?
Edited by flyhighfunguy (08/11/18 08:37 PM)
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: nube424]
#25382514 - 08/11/18 09:00 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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nube424 said: Could u have possibly mixed up jars?
i have mixed up fully colonized jars one time and still had three full flushes
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Re: Making shoe-boxes [Re: Nakoa]
#25382515 - 08/11/18 09:01 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nakoa said: Last of four shoeboxes from a GT clone>agar>agar>agar>oats>CV
  

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Puduwoke
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Caps McGee said: They don't "open early "... genetics or conditions, do they look wet, or have wavy caps? Fuzzy feet? All these are subjective, pictures?
Thanks for the responds mate. I have a shoebox going right next to it, which was spawned the same day, pins looking great so I think you are right about them being wet, the caps look more wet then the others. But this could be to me over watering the casing right? Not only that the substrate was to wet to begin with? Reason I'm asking is that, in my opinion I misted them just the same way both the shoebox and this round tray with the small mushrooms. So shouldnt the shoebox also turn out the same way? Here pictures of the small mushrooms, thanks again mate!
Edit: The tray has shrunk quite a lot alerady before the first flush, could that play apart? To much moister lost from the casing? Reading in the GGMM.
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Edited by Puduwoke (08/11/18 11:13 PM)
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Re: Making shoe-boxes [Re: Puduwoke]
#25383279 - 08/12/18 10:13 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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These 2nd flush APE just keep getting bigger. The veils just started to tear so I'm thinking they are getting close to harvest?

I have had my eye on this one for a clone from the start.
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Those look awesome mushroomnate, the caps almost kinda slightly look like mine do. Do you guys think these are just weird aa+ genetics, or are these maybe APE like you guys thought at first? The caps definitely look very different from any other cubensis I've grown.

Edited by flyhighfunguy (08/12/18 11:06 AM)
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Re: Making shoe-boxes [Re: Puduwoke]
#25383503 - 08/12/18 12:31 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Puduwoke said:
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Caps McGee said: They don't "open early "... genetics or conditions, do they look wet, or have wavy caps? Fuzzy feet? All these are subjective, pictures?
Thanks for the responds mate. I have a shoebox going right next to it, which was spawned the same day, pins looking great so I think you are right about them being wet, the caps look more wet then the others. But this could be to me over watering the casing right? Not only that the substrate was to wet to begin with? Reason I'm asking is that, in my opinion I misted them just the same way both the shoebox and this round tray with the small mushrooms. So shouldnt the shoebox also turn out the same way? Here pictures of the small mushrooms, thanks again mate!
Edit: The tray has shrunk quite a lot alerady before the first flush, could that play apart? To much moister lost from the casing? Reading in the GGMM.

Treat each sub independently and cater to it's needs... even spawned together and kept together, they'll lose water at different rates... Bottom watering is great to add moisture back with out drenching and compromising surface conditions
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Thank you, learnt a lot from this growth, still only first flush. Will give you a picture tomorrow after work when I harvest the small "bucket" Thanks everyone.
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