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hermanium

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Yes. Saw your response in the other thread. Thanks!
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Re: Making Shoeboxes [Re: hermanium]
#25328562 - 07/15/18 08:09 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fabian88
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Re: Making shoeb [Re: mushboy]
#25328570 - 07/15/18 08:13 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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mushboy said: Wtf is making shoeb?!
Nice hpoo boxes bro. Just be patient. I dont think potency is relative to colonization/growth speeds.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15181139/fpart/all#UNREADhttp://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15181139/fpart/all#UNREAD
Should check out that link Mushboy has some TCs talking about increased time and potency.....itβs hypothsized itβs why PE are so strong cause they take longer while fruiting.......itβs worth a look
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Fabian88]
#25328633 - 07/15/18 08:42 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Stop changing the subject header 

Fuckin bucket tek is failing me hard right now. Itβs been a week and the second shoebox looks like its only been a day since inoculation.
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hermanium

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: JHOVA]
#25328674 - 07/15/18 09:03 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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In lieu of that article ^^, would it be helpful to limit GE more in shoeboxe-type grows for higher potency? The attached-lid shoebox may permit too much GE to allow for the more complete consolidation described by Primal Soup. As noted by most growers in this thread, we get fruits even with the lid attached. There isn't really a distinction between a consolidation phase and a FC phase in shoebox-type grows.
For example, my shoebox did not fully colonize before it started pinning and fruiting - I had the lid on up until the first pins formed. I'm thinking of a solution to limit GE further.. maybe seran wrapped top with a couple holes punched in the top?
Edited by hermanium (07/15/18 09:17 PM)
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: hermanium]
#25328875 - 07/15/18 10:55 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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hermanium said: In lieu of that article ^^, would it be helpful to limit GE more in shoeboxe-type grows for higher potency? The attached-lid shoebox may permit too much GE to allow for the more complete consolidation described by Primal Soup. As noted by most growers in this thread, we get fruits even with the lid attached. There isn't really a distinction between a consolidation phase and a FC phase in shoebox-type grows.
For example, my shoebox did not fully colonize before it started pinning and fruiting - I had the lid on up until the first pins formed. I'm thinking of a solution to limit GE further.. maybe seran wrapped top with a couple holes punched in the top?
I've actually got 4 shoeboxes covered in glad wrap, no holes, pinning nicely... this may work in addition to the lid, without holes, as it is permeable
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pixelpopper
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Eats recently recommended to me doing that with the plastic wrap, for monos
I'm sure it will work great for a shoebox also
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mushboy
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Re: Making shoeb [Re: Fabian88] 1
#25329227 - 07/16/18 06:48 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fabian88 said:
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mushboy said: Wtf is making shoeb?!
Nice hpoo boxes bro. Just be patient. I dont think potency is relative to colonization/growth speeds.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15181139/fpart/all#UNREADhttp://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15181139/fpart/all#UNREAD
Should check out that link Mushboy has some TCs talking about increased time and potency.....itβs hypothsized itβs why PE are so strong cause they take longer while fruiting.......itβs worth a look
That's a loosely assumed theory. TC or not. I don't buy it. Dood was using ms too so ....
Not all TCs are ... well. Correct.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#25330384 - 07/16/18 06:30 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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My very first APE shoebox. 10 Days from spawn.

Edited by mushroomnate (07/16/18 06:31 PM)
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Mr Bionic
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Spawned 4 shoeboxes on 06/25. After 8 days of colonization cracked the lid on tub 1 and 2 and left lids on 3 and 4. Tub 4 contaminated and was tossed. Tub 1 and 2 looked like they were drying out on the edges so I closed the lid after about 5 days. The all 3 are moving slowww. I think the sub was too wet. Do these guys have any hope? What should I do? I cracked tub 1 again today.
1. Tubs 1 and 2 have this piss like yellow on the sides of the tubs.

2. Tub 1 surface 
3. Tub 2 Surface

4. Tub 3 Surface
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Enkidu
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Mr Bionic]
#25330599 - 07/16/18 08:33 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I would flip the lids and most maybe once or twice a day unless they keep beads of kositure on the surface
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Enkidu]
#25330614 - 07/16/18 08:42 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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-------------------- Helpful Threads The Shroomery Store Tormato's Q&A Thread Post Questions Here or PM me! "Lately it occurs to me what a long, strange trip it's been." ~ Grateful Dead Before you start...Do you have a Pressure Cooker and a Dehydrator? I highly recommend getting both!
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Tormato]
#25330620 - 07/16/18 08:46 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lol nice.
Also the yellow might be bacterial or something ... Idk
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Tormato] 1
#25330636 - 07/16/18 09:03 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Tormato said: 3rd Flush Harvest time! 

 bets some of my 1st flushes.
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Tormato  
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#25330647 - 07/16/18 09:20 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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mushboy said:
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Tormato said: 3rd Flush Harvest time! 

 bets some of my 1st flushes.
Happy dance time!
-------------------- Helpful Threads The Shroomery Store Tormato's Q&A Thread Post Questions Here or PM me! "Lately it occurs to me what a long, strange trip it's been." ~ Grateful Dead Before you start...Do you have a Pressure Cooker and a Dehydrator? I highly recommend getting both!
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Tormato] 1
#25330671 - 07/16/18 09:48 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Tormato said: 3rd Flush Harvest time! 

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Mr Bionic
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Mr Bionic]
#25331026 - 07/17/18 06:35 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mr Bionic said: Spawned 4 shoeboxes on 06/25. After 8 days of colonization cracked the lid on tub 1 and 2 and left lids on 3 and 4. Tub 4 contaminated and was tossed. Tub 1 and 2 looked like they were drying out on the edges so I closed the lid after about 5 days. The all 3 are moving slowww. I think the sub was too wet. Do these guys have any hope? What should I do? I cracked tub 1 again today.
1. Tubs 1 and 2 have this piss like yellow on the sides of the tubs.

2. Tub 1 surface 
3. Tub 2 Surface

4. Tub 3 Surface

Can anyone else chime in here? What is the thinking behind flipping the lids? At what point should I consider a dunk?
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Tormato  
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Mr Bionic]
#25331053 - 07/17/18 07:13 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mr Bionic said: Spawned 4 shoeboxes on 06/25. After 8 days of colonization cracked the lid on tub 1 and 2 and left lids on 3 and 4. Tub 4 contaminated and was tossed. Tub 1 and 2 looked like they were drying out on the edges so I closed the lid after about 5 days. The all 3 are moving slowww. I think the sub was too wet. Do these guys have any hope? What should I do? I cracked tub 1 again today.
Can anyone else chime in here? What is the thinking behind flipping the lids? At what point should I consider a dunk?
Flipping the lid allows for more FAE which I would recommend. Don't think the tubs are out of the race just yet.
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Enkidu
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Tormato]
#25331121 - 07/17/18 08:25 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dunk after the first flush.
Just flip the lid and chill and wait for pins
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Enkidu]
#25331236 - 07/17/18 09:58 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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My one successful shoebox, first flush.
This is my first grow which consisted of 12 pf tek cakes total. Two fell to trich with the other 10 remaining viable. Once fully colonized, I shredded 3 cakes to 1 shoebox and had one that I fruited in the jar. I did a 1:1 ratio with pasteurized coir. The only thing I really did differently between the shoeboxes was two had normal lids and the one pictured had a clear reuseable food cover with holes instead of grocery bags (I couldn't get the bags to fit correctly without tearing).

I can honestly say that I have learned a ton so far using these teks. I still don't know shit. I seem to have a hard time finding the right balance for surface conditions. I have some bruising on the other shoeboxes due to too much FAE, but live and learn.
Hopefully the other boxes come around eventually, they have only a few small mushrooms and pins, but maybe that will change with patience.
Since starting, I've purchased a PC and all the things for agar. I've inoculated a sleeve of plates using the dog food agar tek. My plan is to go agar>agar>whole grains>coir(both shoeboxes and unmodified mono).
I picked up the correct tub for Bod's unmodified mono's, so I'll try that along with shoeboxes once the next run is underway.
Just figured I'd share this here since this is the thread I've been following the most.
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