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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Legend21]
    #25321990 - 07/12/18 09:58 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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This first one is turning out good
The second one looks like shit and probably won’t have time to finish I had 14 days since spawn and now I leave in two I leave on Saturday It moved slow




First tub might make it, could harvest second prior to leaving, or just rinse your sub of spores real well before next flush




Yeah I’m hoping the first one makes it I know the second one won’t. And if I leave it for a week I’ll come back to a huge sporesplosion :lol: I’ll just throw the second one outside if no fruits are mature by then.




It won't hurt anything, but you'll definitely want to rinse: spores laying on the sub gives it the impression that it's job is done for the season


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Legend21]
    #25321991 - 07/12/18 09:58 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

No need to rinse spores off spent subs.

I've had some go 4-5 flushes that had huge spore dumps on the first and second flush (like PURPLE sub) and saw no issues in future flushes.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: FishLevelMidnight]
    #25321992 - 07/12/18 09:58 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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No need to rinse spores off spent subs.

I've had some go 4-5 flushes that had huge spore dumps on the first and second flush (like PURPLE sub) and saw no issues in future flushes.



Interesting...


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25322009 - 07/12/18 10:12 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

I’ll probably just throw it outside idk if I trust leaving it here for a week then again I am going to spawn a shoebox of PE before I leave that will give it a week to colonize before I get back. I’m just absolutely terrified of leaving for a week and coming back to a tub of trich that has just been sporulating in my house lol


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Legend21]
    #25322072 - 07/12/18 10:45 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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I’ll probably just throw it outside idk if I trust leaving it here for a week then again I am going to spawn a shoebox of PE before I leave that will give it a week to colonize before I get back. I’m just absolutely terrified of leaving for a week and coming back to a tub of trich that has just been sporulating in my house lol



Just leave it closed? Personally, I'd be more worried about a freshly spawned tub than a fully colonized/ already pinning one... good luck to you, wherever you decided


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25322122 - 07/12/18 11:22 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks bro, whatever I do I’ll decide by Saturday night :rofl:


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Legend21]
    #25322134 - 07/12/18 11:31 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: FishLevelMidnight]
    #25322216 - 07/12/18 12:19 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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No need to rinse spores off spent subs.

I've had some go 4-5 flushes that had huge spore dumps on the first and second flush (like PURPLE sub) and saw no issues in future flushes.



:whathesaid: I've had subs that looked like a cube circle jerk took place and they kept on flushing :thumbup:


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Tormato]
    #25322226 - 07/12/18 12:26 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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No need to rinse spores off spent subs.

I've had some go 4-5 flushes that had huge spore dumps on the first and second flush (like PURPLE sub) and saw no issues in future flushes.



:whathesaid: I've had subs that looked like a cube circle jerk took place and they kept on flushing :thumbup:




Yep. Never found spores to cause any noticeable effect on additional flushes


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: pixelpopper]
    #25322303 - 07/12/18 12:59 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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No need to rinse spores off spent subs.

I've had some go 4-5 flushes that had huge spore dumps on the first and second flush (like PURPLE sub) and saw no issues in future flushes.



:whathesaid: I've had subs that looked like a cube circle jerk took place and they kept on flushing :thumbup:




Yep. Never found spores to cause any noticeable effect on additional flushes




I remember reading at one point that spores were a signal to the myc to regrow and strengthen up or something rather than fruit again asap.

What I dont know is if the person writing got just pulled that out of their ads, which is always a possibility. 

I havent seen problems with spores on the substrate either.  :smile:


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Sivarted]
    #25322309 - 07/12/18 01:00 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

It doesn't make sense to me :justdontknow:

Why would an established myc network in the process of fruiting just stop because of some spores laying around?


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: pixelpopper]
    #25322322 - 07/12/18 01:04 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

It could make sense in a "I already reproduced so much I'm buried in it, wait for better conditions" sort of way.

But yeah, pretty farfetched even in that context.  :laugh:


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Sivarted]
    #25322323 - 07/12/18 01:05 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Doesnt really matter either way.  I think most people try to harvest before spores drop, and if you don't manage to, well...

Whatever happens happens.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
    #25322351 - 07/12/18 01:24 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

So.. just to be sure, say i have 12 jars ready to go (4 jars each of 3 different species) I should be using 2 jars of spawn and 2 quarts of cvg? (just re-read the first post so i think that's correct) So i have enough for 6 shoeboxes, how many bricks of coir should i need for this? I have never used it and now sure how much coir will expand when hydrated. Only have one brick right now and a bag of verm..


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: icetech]
    #25322367 - 07/12/18 01:33 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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It doesn't make sense to me :justdontknow:

Why would an established myc network in the process of fruiting just stop because of some spores laying around?



It came from RR he’s said it before a few times I believe
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when spores are allowed to drop like that, any future flush if one comes at all will be poor.  Usually, green molds take over before another flush can develop.

When mycelium makes a full spore drop, it signals to shut down or go into die-back mode since the life cycle is complete.  Pick before that happens.

Also, spores taste horrible so the food quality of the mushrooms goes to shit if you don't pick on time.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Legend21]
    #25322392 - 07/12/18 01:43 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

hmm interesting but doesn't match my experience


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: pixelpopper] * 1
    #25322403 - 07/12/18 01:49 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

That is a claim that isn’t backed by any actual science. A lot of what RR said is gold, but that doesn’t make him infallible


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: FishLevelMidnight]
    #25322405 - 07/12/18 01:50 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I agree. That’s just where I think everyone is getting that from


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: FishLevelMidnight]
    #25322407 - 07/12/18 01:52 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

The entire point of the myc lifecycle is to produce fruits. It doesn't make sense to me that it would stop fruiting just because there are spores present. It would make more sense for the myc to be pushing out as much fruits as possible no matter what

But I just grow em, I'm no scientist


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: pixelpopper]
    #25322433 - 07/12/18 02:06 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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The entire point of the myc lifecycle is to produce fruits. It doesn't make sense to me that it would stop fruiting just because there are spores present. It would make more sense for the myc to be pushing out as much fruits as possible no matter what

But I just grow em, I'm no scientist



Me either, I see RRs point though if you think about it spores dropping is the last part of its lifecycle. Everything it has done in its lifecycle  is to drop those spores to make sure that the spores keep it going. Kind of like some animals that die after they reproduce. I don’t agree or disagree with it I don’t know enough to have an opinion on it anyway.


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