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 Worthinho
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Hey, does this look dry too? This is my tub in question!
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 Germs
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 Re: Making shoeboxes  [Re: Worthinho]
#25238383 - 05/30/18 01:41 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Worthinho said:
Hey, does this look dry too? This is my tub in question!
Thank you!
Yes
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Enkidu
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Germs]
#25238388 - 05/30/18 01:47 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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No a thin casing layer (top layer for me put on at spawn ) should be fine and Imo better than a thick one.
I just use a layer of coir and verm from.my tub of sub saved over like stareatclouds said
Let your flush finish then rehydrate, at this point I wouldn't apply one for flush two myself. Just maybe do it next time if you want
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Enkidu]
#25238427 - 05/30/18 02:07 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Definitely don't put apply casing layers after a flush. At this point, tons of mold spores and other shit are on the surface and enclosing them in a moist tomb without FAE will promote their germination/growth.
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Tormato   
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Germs]
#25238599 - 05/30/18 03:23 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Germs said:
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Worthinho said:
Hey, does this look dry too? This is my tub in question!
Thank you!
Yes
 that’s why you’re getting a lot of side pins...better moisture there
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Tormato]
#25238665 - 05/30/18 03:55 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Whats the highest yield you guys have gotten off a single shoebox
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Whats the highest yield you guys have gotten off a single shoebox
First flush or full life span?
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33ish grams 1st flush. Something like that. 1qt of spawn to 1q coco.
I usually see 2 to 3oz total. I toss after 2nd flush tho
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#25238723 - 05/30/18 04:37 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm going to try this 
Thank you for this thread and all the information that went into it. I'm looking forward to a new adventure.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Skeletom]
#25238760 - 05/30/18 04:56 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I average about an oz and a half first flush and half to a full oz on the second. Like Mushboy I toss after flush 2. Most ever was just shy of 80g dry full life span.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Tormato]
#25239006 - 05/30/18 07:12 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Is it alright if I bottom water my shoebox, and then wait 24 hours before pouring off any excess? Could it cause any issues if it sits too long?
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Zero Nowhere
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I had to bottom water some of my boxes during winter because they were drying out. I left the water for 24 hours and they were fine.
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Josex
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If you can see water pooling at the bottom after 24 hours that can only mean you're doing something wrong:
-You either bottom watered when the myc didn't really need it (no fruits yet to pump that water into or else, not a heavy flush so the extra water ain't needed).
-You just poured/squirted more water than myc needed.
If done right and when you should, the water from bottom-watering should get absorbed in a matter of hours.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Josex]
#25239051 - 05/30/18 07:29 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Josex said:
If you can see water pooling at the bottom after 24 hours that can only mean you're doing something wrong:
-You either bottom watered when the myc didn't really need it (no fruits yet to pump that water into or else, not a heavy flush so the extra water ain't needed).
-You just poured/squirted more water than myc needed.
If done right and when you should, the water from bottom-watering should get absorbed in a matter of hours.
Every time ive bottom watered there has definitely been a lot of water absorbed, however there is always some left over. Maybe its because im not good at judging exactly how much water to put in? I figure that its better too put too much than too little, and then just dump off the excess if need be, right?
Is there a way to figure out exactly how much water to pour in so that there will be no extra left over?
Edit: Not sure if it makes a difference but im bottom watering to rehydrate for the 5th flush. As of right now there are no pins/mushrooms using up the water.
Edited by flyhighfunguy (05/30/18 07:31 PM)
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Circumstances vary so your guess is as good as mine. I do it the same as you flyhigh
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Well if you just poured more than you should, leaving it pooling for some hours isn't going to be a problem.
Idk, I never bottom watered shoeboxes but I did bottom-water cased grains in a shoebox (2 quarts of spawn) and 60ml of water gets absorbed real quick.
However I've bottom-watered lots of bigger tubs and depending on how heavy the flush is some will absorb 60ml real quick and bigger flushes can take 2 shots with the 60 ml syringe in a matter of hours, no pooling whatsoever.
Do you have any pics of that shoebox? maybe it doesn't even need bottom watering.
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Zero Nowhere
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My subs definately were drying out bad. I was putting in 50cc. It seemed like it absorbed about 40 and I would dump out about 10. I didn't really know what I was doing, but I new my sub needed some water
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Josex
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My understanding of bottom watering is to help with heavy flushes so they can flesh out a tad more. If you have to bottom water a shoebox because the sub just dries out then I think you need to up the water content of your sub when you prep it.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Josex]
#25239084 - 05/30/18 07:41 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Josex said:
Well if you just poured more than you should, leaving it pooling for some hours isn't going to be a problem.
Idk, I never bottom watered shoeboxes but I did bottom-water cased grains in a shoebox (2 quarts of spawn) and 60ml of water gets absorbed real quick.
However I've bottom-watered lots of bigger tubs and depending on how heavy the flush is some will absorb 60ml real quick and bigger flushes can take 2 shots with the 60 ml syringe in a matter of hours, no pooling whatsoever.
Do you have any pics of that shoebox? maybe it doesn't even need bottom watering.
Unfortunately the subs are in there fifth flush and have a ton of aborts/pins with yellow-ish caps that never matured grow (Still completely unable to figure out why, no one seems to know). And they have already been bottom watering for a few hours, so it would probably be hard to tell at this point.
Even if they didnt need the water that bad, could it hurt it at all? I figure if they need some water they'll absorb it, and whatever they dont really need just gets dumped off and doesnt really hurt anything right?
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My understanding of bottom watering is to help with heavy flushes so they can flesh out a tad more. If you have to bottom water a shoebox because the sub just dries out then I think you need to up the water content of your sub when you prep it.
I thought that bottom watering was only for heavy flushes as well, however mushboy told me that bottom watering is how he rehydrates his sub before flushes. I always thought it was necessary to fully dunk the substrate under water before flushes, but he said he just bottom waters and i think it seems to be working alright 
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Zero Nowhere
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Josex]
#25239085 - 05/30/18 07:41 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I agree. Haven't had to add water in awhile.
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