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Mateja


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Mateah said: If the surface conditions are too fucked I would put a thin top layer so that the myc has something better to shoot off from than the matted down surface.
..even at this point?...not too late...?
Nope, the myc will happily colonize it in an attempt to try to fruit
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Edited by Mateja (03/30/18 02:11 PM)
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Psicomb



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You will figure it out as you go man. Trust the mushrooms, they know how to take care of themselves pretty well. You are thinking way too hard. Trust yourself too, you gotta sometimes just go with your gut. Use this picture as a tool. I didn't mist this tub once:
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Edited by Psicomb (03/30/18 02:13 PM)
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voodoochild1000
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: JHOVA]
#25102347 - 03/30/18 02:11 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Josex said: Yeah I knew you were doing that (misting and fanning at least 6 times a day), just wanted you to clarify what you did to keep a record for people to see.
It's your first tub and quite impressive considering that, but it's not looking decent at all... it could have looked really decent though, probably a hell of a flush with taller and healthier looking fruits, but unfortunatly it's looking arid af due to operator error.
Trust the plastic box and the mycs ability to keep good conditions for you. You (or anyone else) are fucking horrible at that.
A tub is not a cake in a SGFC that you gotta mist, this is truly set and forget or mostly. You shouldn't be misting your tub if you did everything correctly in the first place. You see the surface matted? That's from so much misting and drying, misting and drying... that's the way myc has to protect itself against the assault and it ruins what could otherwise have been a good and moist pinning platform.
If you think you ain't gonna be able to scrap what you've read so far about misting and fanning, like it's really ingrained in your brain already and you are gonna keep doing it no matter what, at least add a non-nutritious casing layer next time so that you can mist and fan 6 times a day or whatever you want. The casing will protect the surface from you. 
Im planning on no misting till after 1st flush on this next run...definently gonna go in another direction than this time..
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voodoochild1000
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Psicomb]
#25102351 - 03/30/18 02:13 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Psicomvb said: You will figure it out as you go man. Trust the mushrooms, they know how to take care of themselves pretty well. Use this picture as a tool. I didn't mist this tub once: 
Fluffy!...ok I'm starting to get it...thanks for the patience!
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Psicomb



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Psicomvb said: You will figure it out as you go man. Trust the mushrooms, they know how to take care of themselves pretty well. Use this picture as a tool. I didn't mist this tub once: 
Fluffy!...ok I'm starting to get it...thanks for the patience!
Zoom in and you will see beads of water that were self-produced on the mycelium.
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voodoochild1000
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Psicomb]
#25102361 - 03/30/18 02:17 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Psicomvb said: You will figure it out as you go man. Trust the mushrooms, they know how to take care of themselves pretty well. You are thinking way too hard. Trust yourself too, you gotta sometimes just go with your gut. Use this picture as a tool. I didn't mist this tub once:

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Psicomvb said: You will figure it out as you go man. Trust the mushrooms, they know how to take care of themselves pretty well. Use this picture as a tool. I didn't mist this tub once: 
Fluffy!...ok I'm starting to get it...thanks for the patience!
Zoom in and you will see beads of water that were self-produced on the mycelium.
...i saw... do u do a casing layer?..if so what and how thick...?...your shit looks great man...
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Psicomb



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Thank you, nah I just make it really level upon spawning. Sometimes a top layer, but not always. It depends on how lazy I am feeling that day tbh.
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voodoochild1000
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Mateja]
#25102369 - 03/30/18 02:20 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mateah said: If the surface conditions are too fucked I would put a thin top layer so that the myc has something better to shoot off from than the matted down surface.
..even at this point?...not too late...?
Nope, the myc will happily colonize it in an attempt to try to fruit 
Ok..will throw casing layer on when I get back tomorrow...worth a shot! Can I use str8 coir from the bag?...how thick of layer?
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Psicomb



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You should look up these questions my dude, it's all in the shroomery history.
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voodoochild1000
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Psicomb]
#25102376 - 03/30/18 02:23 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Psicomvb said: Thank you, nah I just make it really level upon spawning. Sometimes a top layer, but not always. It depends on how lazy I am feeling that day tbh.
Think I will experiment... half cased..other half no casing... Got 48 jars going currently.....the plan is to not water till 1st flush done
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voodoochild1000
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Psicomb]
#25102379 - 03/30/18 02:24 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Psicomvb said: You should look up these questions my dude, it's all in the shroomery history.
...my bad...on it
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Mateja


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Voodo, enough top layer to cover the white color of the surface and to transform it into the color of coir. But there should be tiny tiny pockets of air between the coir, try to lay it very pouros, so that it breaths better. About 6mm is enough to achieve this. Don´t pack it down at all let it be something that´s made out of 2.77 dimensions if that makes sense. Not quite solid materia, but almost, you should be able to see the myc under the coir in some spots. Not too thick.
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voodoochild1000
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Shrooms4life said: Dude just stop with the whole worrying about beads of moisture shit.. you are the cause of your grow turning out the way it is..
How many times are you going to have to hear the same thing before it sticks man?? I'm normally one of the nicest people on these forums but it's getting redundant now.
In your before pic the coir is still dark brown, you say that when you lift up your tote it still has weight to it and you've mentioned you touched it and it was still moist and yet you still grab that spray bottle...
You have it stuck in your head that if you can't see these magical moisture beads then its dried up which just isn't the case!! You aren't going to save your pinset at this point... your mycelium is matted to fuck town and it's not going to correct itself, take a break from the forums for a day or 2 and stop worrying so damn much man!
Put this time and effort into starting over, a new clean state and if you fuck those up do it again! I bet you by your 4th or 5th shoebox grow you won't be asking these questions 15 times an hour, like everything in life you will get better with practice and time!
Rant over people!! Fuck what a long day so far :'(
...sorry man...i feel you...my apologies...i really do appruciate the help...no more questions for now...have an awesome day
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Mycolorado
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Those pics have knots all over the place. Put them out of sight and mind, work on some more projects and check them in 5 days.
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voodoochild1000
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Mycolorado said: Those pics have knots all over the place. Put them out of sight and mind, work on some more projects and check them in 5 days.
Gonna grow thin casing layer on and let them ride
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Asura
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..even at this point?...not too late...?
Went through this with a recent KSSS grow. I said fuck it, treated the matted surface like a first flush and harvested it (scraped it off). Managed to get some fruits. The effort was not worth it. Once the sub is soaked you're fucked basically. I should have started over.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Asura]
#25102763 - 03/30/18 05:07 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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..even at this point?...not too late...?
Went through this with a recent KSSS grow. I said fuck it, treated the matted surface like a first flush and harvested it (scraped it off). Managed to get some fruits. The effort was not worth it. Once the sub is soaked you're fucked basically. I should have started over.
Couldn't you just flip the sub if you over misted the top?
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Failboat]
#25102768 - 03/30/18 05:09 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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No, the whole sub was soaked through like a soggy sponge. I couldn't tell until it was too late. Just looking at surface conditions, you would never know.
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Madcapper144
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Asura]
#25103010 - 03/30/18 07:04 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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So I was trying to just not fuck with my sheobox after spawning till I got a pin set but after looking at it yesturday it looked dry so I misted it today and there was some slight bruising. It's been 8 days since spawn and the area I got is being heated with a small space heater( blowing above not tword the sheoboxes). My question is that if I remove the lids and dub them now will that help keep moisture in allowing me to fuck with them less or will it provide to much fae and dry it out? I defiantly want to dub for fruiting just wondering if I should do it early?
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Enkidu
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I wouldn't.
I dub after a pinset. I think that's usually around 2 weeks for me after spawnimg
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