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Nitrogoxygen
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WHAT HOW IS THAT SO PERFECTLY LEVEL!?
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mushboy
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Tormato]
#25096702 - 03/28/18 09:46 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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this is another on of your shoes right voodoo? you are soaking your stuff. do the opposite. stop misting so much.
 
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Put your faith in the mushrooms my dude. They generally make it pretty clear when they need attention, I really think you're thinking too hard about what they need. Remember that they grow in not-so-ideal conditions in the wild all the time so it doesn't have to be picture perfect or exactly how you envision it. They are really resilient. Think of them at being at a teenage-stage in life right now; generally can fare okay for themselves on their own with a little guidance and oversight from Pops (you).
Edited by Psicomb (03/28/18 09:51 AM)
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Psicomb]
#25096742 - 03/28/18 10:02 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's hard to judge sometimes voodoo, it all comes with experience man! I still have trouble learning to just let shit ride and not micro manage the living fuck out of my brows the times I'm at home! I walk into my closet at least twice an hour still lol.
Your tubs are drenched man! You will never acquire beads of moisture because it's just drenched and soaked into the substrate! I probably wouldn't mist that thing again till it is dry!!
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flyhighfunguy


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Could you still harvest like munchauzen showed in that pic even if you have a full canopy? Wouldnt flipping the sub onto your hand crush the mushrooms?
Edited by flyhighfunguy (03/28/18 10:07 AM)
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Shrooms4life
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flyhighfunguy said: Could you still harvest like munchauzen showed in that pic even if you have a full canopy? Wouldnt flipping the sub onto your hand crush the mushrooms?

Yes you can still harvest like that, the shrooms are pretty strong and normally don't break at all when I do it, but its possible to fuck anything up If you aren't careful.
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mushboy
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its like misting dry body hair. it beads on my stomach and chest furr when im about to go under the water flow in the shower. of course after that the hair gets all matted and drench. and water no longer looks beady and sexy on my chest.
now i just look like a soaking wet gorilla. glistening can only happen on a dry surface.
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voodoochild1000
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Ok.... I guess I'm coming to the conclusion that I was misting too much..
I was under the impression I needed constant beads..
.. so is it safe to say if I see condensation on the side walls that the sub is probably good to go?
... like I said when I touch the substrate in those previous pictures I can still feel moisture on my finger. So even if there is not microbeads on the surface there still moisture in the substrate and it's evaporating up and out of the substrate and hopefully that will help with pins? .. I guess what I'm trying to figure out is how to tell exactly when it's too dry and needs a misting? Would lack of condensation on the side walls be an indicator that it's getting pretty dry?
Would that be A good rule of thumb? If the side walls have condensation then it should be good to go?
... thank you so much for taking the time to help me out and like I said I'm not trying to be annoying or redundant I'm just really trying to wrap my head around it ASAP so I can improve my scenario..
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mushboy
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voodoochild1000 said:
.. so is it safe to say if I see condensation on the side walls that the sub is probably good to go?
i will never and have never said anything about condensation on the walls. in fact, i wipe away excess condensation sometimes. neither has anyone else so why are you coming to that conclusion?
watch the substrate with your EYEBALLS. i dont touch the sub.. and its shouldnt be 'wet' if i ever did thats for sure. i can tell your subs are too wet because they, LOOK just like mine when they are too wet, and the sub LOOKS too dark in color.
you are too wet. sometimes you cant fix errors you just gotta ride them out and apply next time.
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flyhighfunguy


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#25096820 - 03/28/18 10:31 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shrooms4life said:
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flyhighfunguy said: Could you still harvest like munchauzen showed in that pic even if you have a full canopy? Wouldnt flipping the sub onto your hand crush the mushrooms?

Yes you can still harvest like that, the shrooms are pretty strong and normally don't break at all when I do it, but its possible to fuck anything up If you aren't careful.
Alright sweet thank u.
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mushboy said: its like misting dry body hair. it beads on my stomach and chest furr when im about to go under the water flow in the shower. of course after that the hair gets all matted and drench. and water no longer looks beady and sexy on my chest.
now i just look like a soaking wet gorilla. glistening can only happen on a dry surface.
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mushboy said:
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.. so is it safe to say if I see condensation on the side walls that the sub is probably good to go?
i will never and have never said anything about condensation on the walls. in fact, i wipe away excess condensation sometimes. neither has anyone else so why are you coming to that conclusion?
watch the substrate with your EYEBALLS. i dont touch the sub.. and its shouldnt be 'wet' if i ever did thats for sure. i can tell your subs are too wet because they, LOOK just like mine when they are too wet, and the sub LOOKS too dark in color.
you are too wet. sometimes you cant fix errors you just gotta ride them out and apply next time.
This is still pretty confusing to me too lol I feel like I'm hearing so many different ideas. I guess what I need to know is there are supposed to be beads of moisture in the surface at all times right? And if that requires misting with my climate (30-35% humidity) then it's fine to mist regularly correct?
Edited by flyhighfunguy (03/28/18 10:34 AM)
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mushboy
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beads of moisture can only happen on a dry surface. you are soaking your surface therefore that cant happen.
so NO ITS NOT FINE TO MIST REGULARLY!
Edited by mushboy (03/28/18 10:52 AM)
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flyhighfunguy


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#25096864 - 03/28/18 10:43 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think you think I'm the other guy. My surface definitely isn't too wet and it will bead up but I feel like I may need to mist somewhat regularly to keep maintain the beads on my surface. I agree that that guys sub is too wet but mine seems fine. If there are absolutely no beads of moisture on my surface and it's not overly wet then I still don't need to mist?
Edited by flyhighfunguy (03/28/18 10:43 AM)
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mushboy
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yes im talkin to voodoo.
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flyhighfunguy


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#25096919 - 03/28/18 10:57 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm still pretty confused too tho. The main thing I need to know is do you need constant beads of moisture on the surface, and If so, is itnok to regularly mist to maintain the beads if my climate requires it? My sub is not overly wet like voodoos so it could definitely bead up. Should I still not mist even if there's no beads?
Edited by flyhighfunguy (03/28/18 10:59 AM)
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Zero Nowhere
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#25096932 - 03/28/18 11:01 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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mushboy said: its like misting dry body hair. it beads on my stomach and chest furr when im about to go under the water flow in the shower. of course after that the hair gets all matted and drench. and water no longer looks beady and sexy on my chest.
now i just look like a soaking wet gorilla. glistening can only happen on a dry surface.
I think I have a boner!
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mushboy
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you mist when you do not have a glisten surface. that is up to your ambient conditions and how hydrated the sub is.
you can not time it or schedule it or do it regularly. do you regularly water your lawn? no.. you do it when it looks dry as fuck and possibly half dead. then you think to yourself, 'oops..better not let it get that dry next time' and even then you only water a little because too much water on a dry lawn will kill the grass!
10 billion different metaphors but in the end it doesnt matter. regular misting should be the first sign you doing something wrong.
unless you are open air growing.. but thats another thread
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flyhighfunguy


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#25096944 - 03/28/18 11:05 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Alright sweet that makes sense now. Ill pop the lid like once a day probably to check up on the surface and see if it's glistening, but I'll be sure to only mist whenever there's no glisten. Idk why I thought you needed to mist pretty regularly to maintain the beads. I've seen people say they mist their shoeboxes up to 3 times a day so they must be going wayyy overboard.
Thanks for the help
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mushboy
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flyhighfunguy said: I've seen people say they mist their shoeboxes up to 3 times a day so they must be going wayyy overboard.
like 1/4 of this thread is people doing that and then the other part is people trying to say stop that
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#25096956 - 03/28/18 11:10 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Theres a difference between full on open fuckin air spraying as much as possible going hamloaf on a bitch
And having a nice moisture controlled mono where you can chill and mist every other day
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flyhighfunguy


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#25096962 - 03/28/18 11:11 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Lol well I'm glad I found out when I did. My tubs will be ready for fruiting in a few days and I definitely would of been going overboard woth the misting 
Edit: one last thing just so I'm certain, do you usually need to mist before the pins set or does that also just depend on the tub/ ambient conditions? I'm not sure if I should just not even touch the lid until I see pins?
Edited by flyhighfunguy (03/28/18 11:14 AM)
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