Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Left Coast Kratom Kratom Powder For Sale   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   North Spore Bulk Substrate

Jump to first unread post Pages: < First | < Back | 223 | 224 | 225 | 226 | 227 | 228 | 229 | 230 | 231 | 232 | 233 | 234 | 235 | 236 | 237 | 238 | 239 | 240 | 241 | 242 | 243 | Next > | Last >
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
Offlinegrow4fun
I'm a teapot


Registered: 03/02/18
Posts: 171
Last seen: 2 years, 10 months
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Xerbia]
    #25094773 - 03/27/18 02:07 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Xerbia said:
How do pans do in the shoebox?



I think someone said they are in the middle of testing that out.

I want to know how they do in these tubs as well.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleflyhighfunguy


Registered: 09/13/17
Posts: 1,550
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Tormato]
    #25094792 - 03/27/18 02:12 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Tormato said:
Quote:

flyhighfunguy said:
Quote:

grow4fun said:
Provide fresh air, daylight helps too, no need to mist, should be enough moisture to last till 2nd flush. See the droplets of water on the top of the lid? it does that shit for you. keep it simple.



Oh wow that's a mind fuck lol, this whole time I've been thinking that misting is one of the most important things, and now your telling me I don't even need to mist at all for a couple flushes :confused::confused:

Can anyone confirm this? That would be awesome if I literally just let these tubs sit here until it's time to harvest but I thought misting was super important



Mist only as needed. It's all about surface conditions. This link has some good info -------> Proper Surface Moisture



Is the mycelium supposed to start beading with moisture as soon as it pops through the surface or does it take a little time? Because i know for a fact that my sub was hydrated properly but from what i can see the small spots of myc popping through right now dont have any droplets on them. The side of the sub/tub is building a ton of condensation tho. Its been 2 days since spawn.


Edited by flyhighfunguy (03/27/18 02:14 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleTormatoMFacebookDiscordReddit
The Goddess Kali Meh 😛
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 07/01/17
Posts: 6,067
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: flyhighfunguy]
    #25094859 - 03/27/18 02:32 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

flyhighfunguy said:
Is the mycelium supposed to start beading with moisture as soon as it pops through the surface or does it take a little time? Because i know for a fact that my sub was hydrated properly but from what i can see the small spots of myc popping through right now dont have any droplets on them. The side of the sub/tub is building a ton of condensation tho. Its been 2 days since spawn.



I usually wait until the surface is 100% colonized before I start misting...uncolonized sub can get contaminated easily.


--------------------
Helpful Threads

The Shroomery Store

Tormato's Q&A Thread Post Questions Here or PM me!

"Lately it occurs to me what a long, strange trip it's been." ~ Grateful Dead

Before you start...Do you have a Pressure Cooker and a Dehydrator? I highly recommend getting both!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleGerms
Space Force
 User Gallery

Registered: 06/26/11
Posts: 4,607
Loc: Texas
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: grow4fun]
    #25094911 - 03/27/18 02:48 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

grow4fun said:
Quote:

Xerbia said:
How do pans do in the shoebox?



I think someone said they are in the middle of testing that out.

I want to know how they do in these tubs as well.





Panaeolus Cyanescens in a shoebox on straight coir and verm


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinevoodoochild1000
psychonautic
 User Gallery


Registered: 02/04/15
Posts: 2,531
Loc: Cascades! Flag
Last seen: 8 months, 16 days
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Tormato]
    #25094915 - 03/27/18 02:48 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Tormato said:
Quote:

flyhighfunguy said:
Quote:

grow4fun said:
Provide fresh air, daylight helps too, no need to mist, should be enough moisture to last till 2nd flush. See the droplets of water on the top of the lid? it does that shit for you. keep it simple.



Oh wow that's a mind fuck lol, this whole time I've been thinking that misting is one of the most important things, and now your telling me I don't even need to mist at all for a couple flushes :confused::confused:

Can anyone confirm this? That would be awesome if I literally just let these tubs sit here until it's time to harvest but I thought misting was super important



Mist only as needed. It's all about surface conditions. This link has some good info -------> Proper Surface Moisture





From tek... quote

Surface Moisture:

While your waiting for your pinset to fill out you want to see beads of moisture covering the entire surface of your substrate.

If/when your substrate starts to dry, give it a generous misting.
Mist from above your tub, letting the mist gently fall to the surface of your sub. It will bead up all on its own.
You want to avoid pooling of water on the surface!

  ....i read this as you want constant beads on pins...mayby I started too soon.....next run I will wait....i thought I understood...

  So if I have condensation on sidewalls but no visible beads on surface it should be good? Is that a good rule of thumb....cutting back water now....:facepalm3:


--------------------
....."So Great!"....-Me on 1.5mg LSD :vibin:

...."We don't need this" -Larkin in response to my "just picked wild LSD!" post:canthelpbutlaugh:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineExplicitdetail
Rickshaw Bandit
Male User Gallery


Registered: 02/03/17
Posts: 592
Loc: North of the Equator
Last seen: 1 month, 8 days
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #25094949 - 03/27/18 03:02 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I only mist when the surface looks like it needs it. Not really on a schedule if I don’t see moisture on the surface I give it mist.


--------------------
"Problems that remain persistently insoluble should always be suspected as questions asked in the wrong way."


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleflyhighfunguy


Registered: 09/13/17
Posts: 1,550
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #25094950 - 03/27/18 03:03 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

voodoochild1000 said:
Quote:

Tormato said:
Quote:

flyhighfunguy said:
Quote:

grow4fun said:
Provide fresh air, daylight helps too, no need to mist, should be enough moisture to last till 2nd flush. See the droplets of water on the top of the lid? it does that shit for you. keep it simple.



Oh wow that's a mind fuck lol, this whole time I've been thinking that misting is one of the most important things, and now your telling me I don't even need to mist at all for a couple flushes :confused::confused:

Can anyone confirm this? That would be awesome if I literally just let these tubs sit here until it's time to harvest but I thought misting was super important



Mist only as needed. It's all about surface conditions. This link has some good info -------> Proper Surface Moisture





From tek... quote

Surface Moisture:

While your waiting for your pinset to fill out you want to see beads of moisture covering the entire surface of your substrate.

If/when your substrate starts to dry, give it a generous misting.
Mist from above your tub, letting the mist gently fall to the surface of your sub. It will bead up all on its own.
You want to avoid pooling of water on the surface!

  ....i read this as you want constant beads on pins...mayby I started too soon.....next run I will wait....i thought I understood...

  So if I have condensation on sidewalls but no visible beads on surface it should be good? Is that a good rule of thumb....cutting back water now....:facepalm3:



Idk this is confusing me too. I'm pretty sure your first idea is right. Up until now I've always thought that there should always be beads of moisture on the surface when waiting for pins and all the way up until harvest. I thought that you usually needed to mist to achieve this, unless you have a completely perfectly dialed in monotub or something


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleTormatoMFacebookDiscordReddit
The Goddess Kali Meh 😛
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 07/01/17
Posts: 6,067
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: flyhighfunguy]
    #25094970 - 03/27/18 03:10 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Yes. You always want a light beading of moisture on the surface of the myc while waiting for pins. Once the pins appear up your FAE and continue misting as needed. You can have a little bit of beading on pins, but you don’t want to drown them in water or they’ll abort...that how I do it at least...never had an issue :shrug:


--------------------
Helpful Threads

The Shroomery Store

Tormato's Q&A Thread Post Questions Here or PM me!

"Lately it occurs to me what a long, strange trip it's been." ~ Grateful Dead

Before you start...Do you have a Pressure Cooker and a Dehydrator? I highly recommend getting both!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTheRealMccoy001
Feel like a stranger
Registered: 03/21/18
Posts: 9
Last seen: 5 years, 9 months
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Tormato]
    #25095050 - 03/27/18 03:40 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I am also having trouble with moisture content and rh in my shoeboxes. Spawning (b+>brf>cv; 2@ 4brf/2q & 1@ 3brf/1.5q)  was 12 days ago and since then the sub has been shrinking, about 1/4" off each wall. Other than that everything is well. I've been misting heavily to prevent this when it began but I couldn't keep up. I checked for field cap before spawn and it was sufficient. I'm now getting early sidepins  due to this. Does anybody have a proven remedy to this I could do now? I was thinking bottom watering and then a late top layer? Idk. Next time a monotub is going to be used. What kind of tubs are you using to as a fc for shoeboxes, I saw mention of a damp towel for rh? Thanks.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleTormatoMFacebookDiscordReddit
The Goddess Kali Meh 😛
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 07/01/17
Posts: 6,067
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: TheRealMccoy001]
    #25095061 - 03/27/18 03:47 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

TheRealMccoy001 said:
I am also having trouble with moisture content and rh in my shoeboxes. Spawning (b+>brf>cv; 2@ 4brf/2q & 1@ 3brf/1.5q)  was 12 days ago and since then the sub has been shrinking, about 1/4" off each wall. Other than that everything is well. I've been misting heavily to prevent this when it began but I couldn't keep up. I checked for field cap before spawn and it was sufficient. I'm now getting early sidepins  due to this. Does anybody have a proven remedy to this I could do now? I was thinking bottom watering and then a late top layer? Idk. Next time a monotub is going to be used. What kind of tubs are you using to as a fc for shoeboxes, I saw mention of a damp towel for rh? Thanks.



The shrinking is normal. As the myc consume the sub it will shrink a bit. Proving better conditions on the top surface is about all you can do at this point. Once side pins set in you kinda just gotta ride it out. Liners can help prevent side pinning, but it really comes down to keeping the top conditions prime.


--------------------
Helpful Threads

The Shroomery Store

Tormato's Q&A Thread Post Questions Here or PM me!

"Lately it occurs to me what a long, strange trip it's been." ~ Grateful Dead

Before you start...Do you have a Pressure Cooker and a Dehydrator? I highly recommend getting both!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineEnkidu
"No-Such-Person"
Male

Registered: 07/09/16
Posts: 10,698
Last seen: 6 months, 12 days
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Tormato]
    #25095090 - 03/27/18 03:58 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Dub tub. You take the lid off and flip an empty shoebox on top


--------------------
Within You , Without You


:mushroom2::levitate::mushroom2:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineOranguTrump
Marginally Effective
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 05/26/17
Posts: 234
Loc: Canada Flag
Last seen: 4 years, 10 months
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Enkidu]
    #25095106 - 03/27/18 04:04 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

My first good harvest!

Golden Teacher 156g wet first flush



--------------------
Ordained minister in The Church Of The Flying Spaghetti Monster


dave's not here


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleTormatoMFacebookDiscordReddit
The Goddess Kali Meh 😛
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 07/01/17
Posts: 6,067
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: OranguTrump]
    #25095115 - 03/27/18 04:06 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

OranguTrump said:
My first good harvest!

Golden Teacher 156g wet first flush





:fuckyeah::snoopyes::amusedapplause:


--------------------
Helpful Threads

The Shroomery Store

Tormato's Q&A Thread Post Questions Here or PM me!

"Lately it occurs to me what a long, strange trip it's been." ~ Grateful Dead

Before you start...Do you have a Pressure Cooker and a Dehydrator? I highly recommend getting both!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAsuraS
Cyantist


Registered: 08/01/11
Posts: 5,047
Loc: Texas
Last seen: 12 days, 3 hours
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: OranguTrump]
    #25095126 - 03/27/18 04:11 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

OranguTrump said:
My first good harvest!

Golden Teacher 156g wet first flush






:friendsshocked: :trippnballs:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineOranguTrump
Marginally Effective
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 05/26/17
Posts: 234
Loc: Canada Flag
Last seen: 4 years, 10 months
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Asura]
    #25095141 - 03/27/18 04:15 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Tormato said:
Quote:

OranguTrump said:
My first good harvest!

Golden Teacher 156g wet first flush





:fuckyeah::snoopyes::amusedapplause:



Quote:

Asura said:
Quote:

OranguTrump said:
My first good harvest!

Golden Teacher 156g wet first flush






:friendsshocked: :trippnballs:




No joke - I'm grinning like a madman & getting moist eyes...

Thanks guys - I'm pumped over this one!


--------------------
Ordained minister in The Church Of The Flying Spaghetti Monster


dave's not here


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleTormatoMFacebookDiscordReddit
The Goddess Kali Meh 😛
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 07/01/17
Posts: 6,067
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: OranguTrump]
    #25095161 - 03/27/18 04:21 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Feels good doesn’t it!?
:justcantwait:


--------------------
Helpful Threads

The Shroomery Store

Tormato's Q&A Thread Post Questions Here or PM me!

"Lately it occurs to me what a long, strange trip it's been." ~ Grateful Dead

Before you start...Do you have a Pressure Cooker and a Dehydrator? I highly recommend getting both!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblemushboyMDiscord
modboy
 User Gallery


Registered: 04/24/05
Posts: 32,281
Loc: where?
Trusted Cultivator
OG Cultivator
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Tormato]
    #25095219 - 03/27/18 04:40 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Up until now I've always thought that there should always be beads of moisture on the surface when waiting for pins and all the way up until harvest.




i only keep it that way until the pinset has come in. so about at this point...

all the pins that can form, have formed..leave alone and watch nature/

Quote:

I thought that you usually needed to mist to achieve this




depends on your ambient conditions. if i lived in the desert, id mist a lot. if i lived in miami? probably never. it varies. hence 'mist when needed'.

but even then.. you dont HAVE TO MIST. just leave them alone to grow NOW.. make adjustments after.
dont try to multitask awesome pinsets, with learning surface conditions at the same time. i know i couldnt:shrug:

maybe some people can but i cant so just go step by step. grow the shoebox, take notes, improve for next time:awesomenod:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinegrow4fun
I'm a teapot


Registered: 03/02/18
Posts: 171
Last seen: 2 years, 10 months
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: flyhighfunguy]
    #25095236 - 03/27/18 04:47 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

flyhighfunguy said:
Idk this is confusing me too. I'm pretty sure your first idea is right. Up until now I've always thought that there should always be beads of moisture on the surface when waiting for pins and all the way up until harvest. I thought that you usually needed to mist to achieve this, unless you have a completely perfectly dialed in monotub or something




There should always be moisture on the surface.

Dood look on the ceiling of your lid, there should be a lot of condensation built on it from the substrate, the condensation will drop back onto the sub without needing to mist, hence why tubs are maintenance free, misting is only needed if there's a lack of moisture.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinegrow4fun
I'm a teapot


Registered: 03/02/18
Posts: 171
Last seen: 2 years, 10 months
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: grow4fun]
    #25095248 - 03/27/18 04:50 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

grow4fun said:
What are your thoughts on this substrate? Whats up with the yellow and dark blue?



Edit: some backstory, the substrate is 1:1 vg, moistened with just luke warm tap water. Is it bacteria or what?




Can someone pls comment on this?


Edited by grow4fun (03/27/18 04:53 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblemushboyMDiscord
modboy
 User Gallery


Registered: 04/24/05
Posts: 32,281
Loc: where?
Trusted Cultivator
OG Cultivator
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: grow4fun]
    #25095264 - 03/27/18 04:57 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

grow4fun said:
the condensation will drop back onto the sub without needing to mist




not quite... the same moisture that builds on the bottom of the lid, also builds on the subs surface.

i remember drip shields:rolleyes::stoned:

Quote:

grow4fun said:






darkblue/green lookin spots on the colonized grain areas are 99% always mold ime. you are seeing where its coming from(dirty spawn..literally)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: < First | < Back | 223 | 224 | 225 | 226 | 227 | 228 | 229 | 230 | 231 | 232 | 233 | 234 | 235 | 236 | 237 | 238 | 239 | 240 | 241 | 242 | 243 | Next > | Last >

Shop: PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Left Coast Kratom Kratom Powder For Sale   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   North Spore Bulk Substrate


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Shoebox incubator Jellynuts 4,121 5 08/02/04 02:56 PM
by Cole
* shoeboxes sludge 2,958 2 06/24/05 01:26 PM
by sludge
* making a incubator iamTheOne 781 1 05/30/03 12:35 PM
by KlingonFromUranus
* Do you want to make rye shakables? TrippinRhino 5,393 11 10/11/01 01:56 PM
by TrippinRhino
* Attention Newbies-Use Foil to make a sporeprint!
( 1 2 3 all )
Catzeye 25,692 46 02/23/02 12:20 PM
by bluhoney
* Tips on making Syringes 00Nick00 5,077 19 08/29/02 01:58 AM
by goldtop
* Making Spore Syringes Anonymous 7,245 13 09/04/02 08:14 PM
by Sammy
* Attention Newbies-Make Spore Prints With Foil! Catzeye 22,161 1 02/20/02 01:54 PM
by psilocybinjunkie

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
623,701 topic views. 38 members, 358 guests and 139 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.033 seconds spending 0.013 seconds on 15 queries.