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flyhighfunguy


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Psicomb]
#25094211 - 03/27/18 10:44 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Do you guys have any preferred ways of harvesting shoeboxes? Is it usually pretty easy to just get in there with a knife and cut them out?
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LtLurker
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The angle can be hard. It's easier if you fill the tub with water so the sub floats at the top, or if you used a liner pull it out by the liner.
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flyhighfunguy


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: LtLurker]
#25094243 - 03/27/18 10:57 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yea I was thinking about using bods tek to float the sub up, but some people have told me to just give it a heavy misting for the second flush, so Iām worried floating it up with water may cause it to be too wet. If the sub still has a good amount of moisture is it still ok to float it up with water?
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A heavy mist is all it should need, and if you can cut out your harvest easy enough it's fine. But floating the sub then draining it isn't gonna hurt it.
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flyhighfunguy


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: LtLurker]
#25094265 - 03/27/18 11:07 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Alright good to know. Hopefully I can just get in there with a knife but if it's too hard I'll just float it up. Thanks for the help
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I don't know if it's right or wrong but I pulled out my sub by the liner, then cut all shrooms. Then I dunked the whole thing under tap water an weighted it down for 6 hours. Then drained. 2nd flush is coming along nicely. It's dry as fuck here though and my subs dry quick
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Nice pinset!
I've been having problems with my pin set. I wonder if I'm misting too much? When do you start misting and how often do you mist?
Some have said they don't start misting or even open the lid until they see pins popping?
Everything seemed great until it was time for pens to sat then I got a lot of side pins and overall a pretty so soap and set and I'm concerned about my other shoe boxes doing the same.
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grow4fun



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voodoochild1000 said:
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Explicitdetail said:

Nice pinset!
I've been having problems with my pin set. I wonder if I'm misting too much? When do you start misting and how often do you mist?
Some have said they don't start misting or even open the lid until they see pins popping?
Everything seemed great until it was time for pens to sat then I got a lot of side pins and overall a pretty so soap and set and I'm concerned about my other shoe boxes doing the same.
Don't need to mist before pinning as long as your substrate was prep'd proper, provide good FA and daylight and they should pin like that. Also comes down to genetics too.
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grow4fun



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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: grow4fun]
#25094589 - 03/27/18 12:58 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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What are your thoughts on this substrate? Whats up with the yellow and dark blue?

Edit: some backstory, the substrate is 1:1 vg, moistened with just luke warm tap water. Is it bacteria or what?
Edited by grow4fun (03/27/18 01:56 PM)
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flyhighfunguy


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: grow4fun]
#25094609 - 03/27/18 01:05 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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grow4fun said:
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voodoochild1000 said:
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Explicitdetail said:

Nice pinset!
I've been having problems with my pin set. I wonder if I'm misting too much? When do you start misting and how often do you mist?
Some have said they don't start misting or even open the lid until they see pins popping?
Everything seemed great until it was time for pens to sat then I got a lot of side pins and overall a pretty so soap and set and I'm concerned about my other shoe boxes doing the same.
Don't need to mist before pinning as long as your substrate was prep'd proper, provide good FA and daylight and they should pin like that. Also comes down to genetics too.
I thought once it was fully colonised your supposed to create the little beads of moisture with misting and allow them to evaporate and then repeat to trigger pinning.
Are you saying the substrate usually does this on its own as long as it's at field capacity?
I have a bunch of shoeboxes going roght now and I was planning to start misting once the sub fully colonized to maintain the beads of moisture/evaporation, so this would be good to know.
Edited by flyhighfunguy (03/27/18 01:10 PM)
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grow4fun



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flyhighfunguy said:
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grow4fun said:
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voodoochild1000 said:
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Explicitdetail said:

Nice pinset!
I've been having problems with my pin set. I wonder if I'm misting too much? When do you start misting and how often do you mist?
Some have said they don't start misting or even open the lid until they see pins popping?
Everything seemed great until it was time for pens to sat then I got a lot of side pins and overall a pretty so soap and set and I'm concerned about my other shoe boxes doing the same.
Don't need to mist before pinning as long as your substrate was prep'd proper, provide good FA and daylight and they should pin like that. Also comes down to genetics too.
I thought once it was fully colonised your supposed to create the little beads of moisture with misting and allow them to evaporate and then repeat to trigger pinning.
Are you saying the substrate usually does this on its own as long as it's at field capacity?
I have a bunch of shoeboxes going roght now and I was planning to start misting once the sub fully colonized to maintain the beads of moisture/evaporation, so this Wld be good to know.
Provide fresh air, daylight helps too, no need to mist, should be enough moisture to last till 2nd flush. See the droplets of water on the top of the lid? it does that shit for you. keep it simple.
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flyhighfunguy


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: grow4fun]
#25094671 - 03/27/18 01:29 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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grow4fun said: Provide fresh air, daylight helps too, no need to mist, should be enough moisture to last till 2nd flush. See the droplets of water on the top of the lid? it does that shit for you. keep it simple.
Oh wow that's a mind fuck lol, this whole time I've been thinking that misting is one of the most important things, and now your telling me I don't even need to mist at all for a couple flushes 
Can anyone confirm this? That would be awesome if I literally just let these tubs sit here until it's time to harvest but I thought misting was super important
Edited by flyhighfunguy (03/27/18 01:32 PM)
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grow4fun



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Oh wow that's a mind fuck lol, this whole time I've been thinking that misting is one of, if not the most important thing, and now your telling me I don't even need to mist at all for a couple flushes 
Can anyone confirm this? That would be awesome if I literally just let these tubs sit here until it's time to harvest but I thought misting was super important
Mist when you feel the sub is drying out or there isn't a much condensation in the tub itself. You can get a nice canopy and fat thick fruits without misting once during first flush if you know what you're doing. Tubs are meant to be maintenance free. Mist as you wish.
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voodoochild1000
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Nice pinset!
I've been having problems with my pin set. I wonder if I'm misting too much? When do you start misting and how often do you mist?
Some have said they don't start misting or even open the lid until they see pins popping?
Everything seemed great until it was time for pens to sat then I got a lot of side pins and overall a pretty so soap and set and I'm concerned about my other shoe boxes doing the same.
Don't need to mist before pinning as long as your substrate was prep'd proper, provide good FA and daylight and they should pin like that. Also comes down to genetics too.
I thought once it was fully colonised your supposed to create the little beads of moisture with misting and allow them to evaporate and then repeat to trigger pinning.
Are you saying the substrate usually does this on its own as long as it's at field capacity?
I have a bunch of shoeboxes going roght now and I was planning to start misting once the sub fully colonized to maintain the beads of moisture/evaporation, so this Wld be good to know.
Provide fresh air, daylight helps too, no need to mist, should be enough moisture to last till 2nd flush. See the droplets of water on the top of the lid? it does that shit for you. keep it simple.
...so no misting till 1st flush done?
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flyhighfunguy said:
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grow4fun said: Provide fresh air, daylight helps too, no need to mist, should be enough moisture to last till 2nd flush. See the droplets of water on the top of the lid? it does that shit for you. keep it simple.
Oh wow that's a mind fuck lol, this whole time I've been thinking that misting is one of, if not the most important thing, and now your telling me I don't even need to mist at all for a couple flushes 
Can anyone confirm this? That would be awesome if I literally just let these tubs sit here until it's time to harvest but I thought misting was super important
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flyhighfunguy said:
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grow4fun said: Provide fresh air, daylight helps too, no need to mist, should be enough moisture to last till 2nd flush. See the droplets of water on the top of the lid? it does that shit for you. keep it simple.
Oh wow that's a mind fuck lol, this whole time I've been thinking that misting is one of the most important things, and now your telling me I don't even need to mist at all for a couple flushes 
Can anyone confirm this? That would be awesome if I literally just let these tubs sit here until it's time to harvest but I thought misting was super important
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voodoochild1000
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: grow4fun]
#25094703 - 03/27/18 01:41 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oh wow that's a mind fuck lol, this whole time I've been thinking that misting is one of, if not the most important thing, and now your telling me I don't even need to mist at all for a couple flushes 
Can anyone confirm this? That would be awesome if I literally just let these tubs sit here until it's time to harvest but I thought misting was super important
Mist when you feel the sub is drying out or there isn't a much condensation in the tub itself. You can get a nice canopy and fat thick fruits without misting once during first flush if you know what you're doing. Tubs are meant to be maintenance free. Mist as you wish.
Same
I would also like some feedback on this. I think I've been missing way too much. Would over misting explain my lackluster pin-set?
To be clear. I can just leave the lid on till after my first flush and don't need to mist unless of course I see a complete lack of condensation inside the Box?
I feel like I research this and asked multiple questions and somehow s*** is still wanky
Ok....i am immediately stopping misting all tubs until 1st flush... hope that improves things..
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: grow4fun]
#25094719 - 03/27/18 01:47 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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voodoochild1000 said: ...so no misting till 1st flush done?
Same
I would also like some feedback on this. I think I've been missing way too much. Would over misting explain my lackluster pin-set?
To be clear. I can just leave the lid on till after my first flush and don't need to mist unless of course I see a complete lack of condensation inside the Box?
I feel like I research this and asked multiple questions and somehow s*** is still wanky
Ok....i am immediately stopping misting all tubs until 1st flush... hope that improves things..
Some people get away without misting. Depends on the size of the tub, the substrate/spawn ratio, how it was prepared. idk lots of stuff. You decide to mist, if the sub is drying out then mist it, won't hurt it at all. But i never heard of misting being a pinning trigger. The sub has/should have plenty of moisture to pin, if not then someone fucked up.
Yes over misting can ruin a pinset/prevent pins, can create too much humidity, can also create aborts which can also lead to contamination.
This hobby is all about experimentation.
Edit: I never mist to trigger pins, only to replace moisture that was lost, I always end up with a great pinset.
Edited by grow4fun (03/27/18 01:48 PM)
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flyhighfunguy said:
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grow4fun said: Provide fresh air, daylight helps too, no need to mist, should be enough moisture to last till 2nd flush. See the droplets of water on the top of the lid? it does that shit for you. keep it simple.
Oh wow that's a mind fuck lol, this whole time I've been thinking that misting is one of the most important things, and now your telling me I don't even need to mist at all for a couple flushes 
Can anyone confirm this? That would be awesome if I literally just let these tubs sit here until it's time to harvest but I thought misting was super important
Mist only as needed. It's all about surface conditions. This link has some good info -------> Proper Surface Moisture
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Tormato]
#25094753 - 03/27/18 02:00 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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How do pans do in the shoebox?
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