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mushroomnate
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: LtLurker]
#25087067 - 03/24/18 11:55 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes, I mean spawn:coir/verm.I use bucket tek coir/verm as my bulk sub.
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mushroomnate
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flyhighfunguy said: And yea i think he's saying that he writes 1:2 since that's technically what it is but after fluffing up it could also be considered a 1:1 I guess he's saying?
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LtLurker said: yea. Once it's grated it's a little fluffier, but 4 pints still fill around 1/3 of a 6qt shoe box for me.
Maybe you just need to see how much yours breaks out to? That suggestion to use half is new to me. Idk what we might be doing different, could be couple things.
So, nate you write, 1:2 spawn:total sub? I thought it was Spawn:coir. Like 1:2 is 1qt spawn and 2qt coir. I'm a little confused how you wrote that.
Wouldn't a third of a 6 quart shoebox be 2 quarts? Or do you mean it fills it a third of the way once mixed with substrate also?
8 1/2pints = 4 pints = 2 quarts add 2 quarts of coir and it's 2/3rd full. 1:1 or 2:2 however you like to write it.
Yea my bad nate, I reread it after and realized what you meant.
Edited by LtLurker (03/24/18 12:00 PM)
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: LtLurker]
#25087896 - 03/24/18 06:54 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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So.... I'm still kind of confused on whether to mist or not to mist because I've gotten contradictory information from multiple sources...
I have for tubs that I spawned on 3 / 9 and one of them has a bunch of growth and side pins Etc. but the other three have nothing yet... and I have one of my tubs that I spawned on 3/13 that's starting to have pins and I just don't understand why I have the one tub starting hella early and the others have nothing and the one that I did later is the Second tub to show pins ..what gives?
I guess I'm just expecting things to happen about the same time or am I being impatient or is that just how it goes? I just want to figure out if I'm doing something wrong so I can fix the problem immediately before more time goes by...
My main question is am I misting it too much and not allowing time for evaporation to happen or should I keep missing it multiple times a day and keep a constant layer of microbeads on the surface of the substrate?
most people say to keep it constantly moist but I've had a couple people say to give it time to dry in between mistings.... I just really want to come to a conclusion on how to approach it and follow through with that technique...any ideas?
Spawned 3/9

Spawned 3/13

.. so I missed it this morning about 9 to 10 hours ago. I guess my question is should I miss them several times a day and keep the beads on the surface or should I give it time for the beads to evaporate off and then mist?
I hypothesize that the pins are growing on the side because of the water that falls down the side of the tub and it's creating a strong up flow of evaporation along that narrow space between the substrate and the sidewall... if that's true then I feel like maybe I need to mist it more and create more of that evaporation flow on the surface but if anybody has any ideas let me know
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Trichoderma? spawned 6 days ago, rye berries to straight coir.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: wushroow]
#25088091 - 03/24/18 08:18 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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6 days after putting into fruiting.. still seem/look okay? I anticipated pins by now but then again it's only been 6 days as well
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: wushroow]
#25088122 - 03/24/18 08:31 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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wushroow said: Trichoderma? spawned 6 days ago, rye berries to straight coir.

Definitely looks like it, sorry man.
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wonderousovoid said:

6 days after putting into fruiting.. still seem/look okay? I anticipated pins by now but then again it's only been 6 days as well
That looks really wet. Have you been misting it? If so, I wouldn't mist it again until after the first flush.
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6 days after putting into fruiting.. still seem/look okay? I anticipated pins by now but then again it's only been 6 days as well
Next time I would put a thin casing layer of coir on top
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Sutty86]
#25088870 - 03/25/18 07:21 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Popped the lid on some GT I'd spawned to coir/verm - not even 100% colonized & there's pins everywhere!!!

I adjusted my field capacity gauging - went a tad damper this time. Looks like it's working.
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wushroow said: Trichoderma? spawned 6 days ago, rye berries to straight coir.

toss
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far out. id be concerned though.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#25088883 - 03/25/18 07:38 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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OranguTrump said:

far out. id be concerned though. 
Uh oh? Too wet? Only a tad more so than previous, they were dry / drying out too quick. The white fuzz seems to be all good colonizing & the surface doesn't seem "wet".
What should I be looking out for? I appreciate all help, I really do!
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OranguTrump said:
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OranguTrump said:

far out. id be concerned though. 
Uh oh? Too wet? Only a tad more so than previous, they were dry / drying out too quick. The white fuzz seems to be all good colonizing & the surface doesn't seem "wet".
What should I be looking out for? I appreciate all help, I really do!
Well typically pinning before full colonization is a sign that your sub maybe contaminated and the mushrooms are trying to complete their life cycle before they get taken over by the nasties.
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So i tried dubbing my tubs for the first time and i keep running into this issue on most of them, wondering if anyone has some solutions or tips. The sides have been pooling and started to develop some metabolites, seems to be cause by the condensation running down the side. I've done by best to dab up the pooling but the damage already seems to be done.
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Shrooms4life said:
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OranguTrump said:
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OranguTrump said:

far out. id be concerned though. 
Uh oh? Too wet? Only a tad more so than previous, they were dry / drying out too quick. The white fuzz seems to be all good colonizing & the surface doesn't seem "wet".
What should I be looking out for? I appreciate all help, I really do!
Well typically pinning before full colonization is a sign that your sub maybe contaminated and the mushrooms are trying to complete their life cycle before they get taken over by the nasties.
Ahhh - that would suck. Well, I'll harvest what I can if that happens.
Will watch for contams...
Thanks very much - I'm learning, learning, learning.
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Explicitdetail said: So i tried dubbing my tubs for the first time and i keep running into this issue on most of them, wondering if anyone has some solutions or tips. The sides have been pooling and started to develop some metabolites, seems to be cause by the condensation running down the side. I've done by best to dab up the pooling but the damage already seems to be done.

Slightly increase FAE to get a little more evap ? You can offset the Dub to create gaps, I've done it a lot to try and dial in on optimum conditions. Maybe just slightly crack for a little more airflow.
Looks like them boys are about to start busting out
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Explicitdetail said: So i tried dubbing my tubs for the first time and i keep running into this issue on most of them, wondering if anyone has some solutions or tips. The sides have been pooling and started to develop some metabolites, seems to be cause by the condensation running down the side. I've done by best to dab up the pooling but the damage already seems to be done.

I had metabolites form on the sides although not as extensive as what I'm saying and yours. I was told it was nothing to worry about as long as everything smells good and so far it hasn't seemed to have caused me any problems...best wishes!
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Enkidu]
#25089455 - 03/25/18 12:18 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yea I’m not really worried about this first flush, more worried about it tamming out quicker on later flushes. Oh well dubbing is cool but I think I’ll go back to putting them in my big monos. Thanks for the replies
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Spawned a week ago, rye berries to coir. Look ok? Should I case this?
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: wushroow]
#25089884 - 03/25/18 03:33 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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wushroow said: Spawned a week ago, rye berries to coir. Look ok? Should I case this?

Looks good so far...case if you want to
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