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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #25077233 - 03/20/18 09:08 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

That's what I thought but I also thought I may have let it colonized too long before giving fae, and the tubs I used were air tight since spawning.

I actually should add I didn't get much of a smell really but nothing hit me with a stench and i didn't smell.dirt but I'm also not sure what the exact smells/looks I'm looking for yet.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #25077234 - 03/20/18 09:09 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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Do these look alright? I couldn't tell if there were hints of green of if there was just thicker myc and the way the light looked

Excuse me if I'm a noob and these are contamed as hell but they seemed alright looking to me as well as questionable. Nothing smells off





Looks fine to me :thumbup:


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: wonderousovoid]
    #25077238 - 03/20/18 09:11 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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Do these look alright? I couldn't tell if there were hints of green of if there was just thicker myc and the way the light looked

Excuse me if I'm a noob and these are contamed as hell but they seemed alright looking to me as well as questionable. Nothing smells off







Look fine to me :shrug: maybe give a little misting.

The myc looks real light and fluffy to me, if you mist i bet it comes down to the top layer and looks more "normal".

I've had more than one tub that looked like that when I flipped the lid.

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Enkidu]
    #25077245 - 03/20/18 09:14 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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Do these look alright? I couldn't tell if there were hints of green of if there was just thicker myc and the way the light looked

Excuse me if I'm a noob and these are contamed as hell but they seemed alright looking to me as well as questionable. Nothing smells off







Look fine to me :shrug: maybe give a little misting.

The myc looks real light and fluffy to me, if you mist i bet it comes down to the top layer and looks more "normal".

I've had more than one tub that looked like that when I flipped the lid.

Looks good bro.





Honestly, these tubs look like they have just recently been set out to fruit. Fresh air will change the surface appearance after awhile...looks good bro don't panic!


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: voodoochild1000] * 1
    #25077260 - 03/20/18 09:22 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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My very 1st Pins! Day 11....

I noticed that my substrate is sort of pulling away from the side of the shoe box and I'm a little concerned about getting a bunch of side pins.

Any suggestions on how to maintain an even flush across my substrate?:shrug:




This post https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23999053/fpart/1/vc/1 Got my surface conditions like the post mabey a week after spawning.

Lid kept on and I did not need to mist again until harvest I did bottom water a little after dub tubbed

This pic of another box I got going really shows good surface conditions according to CBKs post


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Tormato]
    #25077286 - 03/20/18 09:34 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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Do these look alright? I couldn't tell if there were hints of green of if there was just thicker myc and the way the light looked

Excuse me if I'm a noob and these are contamed as hell but they seemed alright looking to me as well as questionable. Nothing smells off







Look fine to me :shrug: maybe give a little misting.

The myc looks real light and fluffy to me, if you mist i bet it comes down to the top layer and looks more "normal".

I've had more than one tub that looked like that when I flipped the lid.

Looks good bro.





Honestly, these tubs look like they have just recently been set out to fruit. Fresh air will change the surface appearance after awhile...looks good bro don't panic!




Yep just initiated fruiting a day or two ago. I believe two. Thanks for the confirmation just trying to dial in what I'm looking for

I thought about misting but there's a few pools of water and I just put them into fruiting so there should be more than enough moisture in that sub right? I know it's about surface conditions though and it may need a little even pearling across the tops


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: wonderousovoid]
    #25077297 - 03/20/18 09:45 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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Yep just initiated fruiting a day or two ago. I believe two. Thanks for the confirmation just trying to dial in what I'm looking for

I thought about misting but there's a few pools of water and I just put them into fruiting so there should be more than enough moisture in that sub right? I know it's about surface conditions though and it may need a little even pearling across the tops



I thought it looked relatively fresh :lol:
Go ahead and give it a light misting across the surface. Just lay down a thin beading of moisture and then let her breathe in that fresh air. It'll be pin city in no time! Good job bud! :super:


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Sutty86]
    #25077322 - 03/20/18 09:59 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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Doesn't matter about being wet or hot, hotter is probably better then cold, I'd be more concerned about the top half not being warm enough possibly.

you just squeeze out excess water to field capacity, I always use too much water and have to squeeze it out,
Better to be wet than dry

You could use another bucket and pour boiling water over both again, mix and leave for 2 hours.



It's actually better to have your sub on the dry side then too wet, too much moisture is a way bigger issue to have since you can always mist your tub if it's dry but can't suck water content out.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: GnosticAstronaut]
    #25077377 - 03/20/18 10:27 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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My very 1st Pins! Day 11....

I noticed that my substrate is sort of pulling away from the side of the shoe box and I'm a little concerned about getting a bunch of side pins.

Any suggestions on how to maintain an even flush across my substrate?:shrug:




This post https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23999053/fpart/1/vc/1 Got my surface conditions like the post mabey a week after spawning.

Lid kept on and I did not need to mist again until harvest I did bottom water a little after dub tubbed

This pic of another box I got going really shows good surface conditions according to CBKs post





Ok...good info... to be clear, are you saying you missed it once after about a week then left the lid on? So maybe I should do a light misting now and then keep the lid on?

Questions...

1. Does it look like my substrate is colonized enough? Some of your guys pictures look like it's a little more filled in than mine.?

2. To mist or not to mist?.. seems like there's mixed opinion on misting versus not misting.... should I try missing a couple and not misting the others?

3.. in regards to my level of colonization. Should I have let it sit a couple more days before introducing the 12/ 12 light cycle?


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #25077386 - 03/20/18 10:33 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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Ok...good info.

Questions...

1. Does it look like my substrate is colonized enough? Some of your guys pictures look like it's a little more filled in than mine.?

2. To mist or not to mist?.. seems like there's mixed opinion on misting versus not misting.... should I try missing a couple and not misting the others?

3.. in regards to my level of colonization. Should I have let it sit a couple more days before introducing the 12/ 12 light cycle?




1) If it's knotting and pinning the sub has colonized all it will colonize.

2) Misting all depends on the surface of the sub. You always want to maintain a thin beading of moisture on the myc.

3) Light is valuable at all levels of the grow...lighting isn't going to effect how much colonization takes place.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Shrooms4life]
    #25077396 - 03/20/18 10:37 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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Doesn't matter about being wet or hot, hotter is probably better then cold, I'd be more concerned about the top half not being warm enough possibly.


you just squeeze out excess water to field capacity, I always use too much water and have to squeeze it out,
Better to be wet than dry

You could use another bucket and pour boiling water over both again, mix and leave for 2 hours.



It's actually better to have your sub on the dry side then too wet, too much moisture is a way bigger issue to have since you can always mist your tub if it's dry but can't suck water content out.




How much of a concern is too moist? The one tub is a little over moist looking but  not much I can do . It's not very bad I reckon


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: wonderousovoid]
    #25077407 - 03/20/18 10:44 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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How much of a concern is too moist? The one tub is a little over moist looking but  not much I can do . It's not very bad I reckon



If you bump the curb a bit it's not a deal breaker, but you do want to get as close to field capacity as possible. The wetter the sub the higher probability of "AH FUCK!"


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #25077417 - 03/20/18 10:49 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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Ok...good info.

Questions...

1. Does it look like my substrate is colonized enough? Some of your guys pictures look like it's a little more filled in than mine.?

2. To mist or not to mist?.. seems like there's mixed opinion on misting versus not misting.... should I try missing a couple and not misting the others?

3.. in regards to my level of colonization. Should I have let it sit a couple more days before introducing the 12/ 12 light cycle?




1. It looks pretty good to me, kind of dry imo. The tubs I posted have high spawn to sub ratio and a very thin top layer when spawned so I think that what makes them look a bit different.

2. Well evaporation of the surface is the biggest pinning trigger from what I've read so I'd mist and get those surface conditions looking like the post and keep them like that with the lid on. Since you got a couple pins on the side it means the condition are better there and creating a microclimate, probably because of how much moisture and evaporation there is. I misted mine a week after spawn before any pins, then maybe 2 or three times and then didn't until harvest.

3. Light helps cubes at all stages so mine get 12/12 always.:smoker:


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: GnosticAstronaut]
    #25077431 - 03/20/18 10:55 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #25077447 - 03/20/18 11:03 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: GnosticAstronaut]
    #25077456 - 03/20/18 11:07 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Ok... did a light misting.... got a light layer of micro beads of water....so monitor my Surface moisture during the pin set and once it's set Let It Go?

Is this an adequate amount of misting or should hit get a little bit more?


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #25077467 - 03/20/18 11:13 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Bottom of the photos looked like no beads but could be because of the camera focus but yea check em in a few hours and hit it again if it looks dry. Misting is just to get the conditions were they need to be and keep them if needed. I expected to have to mist more than I did but after a couple of times over 2 days it stayed nice.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Tormato]
    #25077490 - 03/20/18 11:24 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

I'm about to start my first shoebox in a few days and the area I'm going to keep them ranges from 60-67f. I have a heat pad and am contiplating leaving it in the area( away from the shoebox) to increase the ambient air temp. I know heating pads are a huge no no here but I figure if I'm just using it to heat the area and don't have my shoebox sitting on it it can't be that bad right? I really enjoy this thread i've read the first 42 pages so far and have learned a bunch thanks!!


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: GnosticAstronaut]
    #25077501 - 03/20/18 11:30 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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Bottom of the photos looked like no beads but could be because of the camera focus but yea check em in a few hours and hit it again if it looks dry. Misting is just to get the conditions were they need to be and keep them if needed. I expected to have to mist more than I did but after a couple of times over 2 days it stayed nice.




... okay, I misted them a little bit more and insured that it was full coverage. As long as it is not pooling it should be good to go right? :-)


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Madcapper144]
    #25077505 - 03/20/18 11:32 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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I'm about to start my first shoebox in a few days and the area I'm going to keep them ranges from 60-67f. I have a heat pad and am contiplating leaving it in the area( away from the shoebox) to increase the ambient air temp. I know heating pads are a huge no no here but I figure if I'm just using it to heat the area and don't have my shoebox sitting on it it can't be that bad right? I really enjoy this thread i've read the first 42 pages so far and have learned a bunch thanks!!




... the closer you can be to 75° ambient temperature the better off you're going to be... but I do believe things will still grow in temperatures lower than 75 but 75 is optimal and what you should shoot for..:awethumb:


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