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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
    #25048126 - 03/08/18 09:14 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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dont tape boxes. sidepins should be an object lesson for us about the conditions we are providing.(bad)

light doesnt cause them anyway. its moisture held at the substrates surface(even horizontal)its a great climate.
time to read up on surface conditions and balancing the water content of your bulk:thumbup:




So you are saying light has no effect on pinning at all?

I'm hoping these mini tubs won't produce many side pins with little maintenance.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Sofaking420]
    #25048130 - 03/08/18 09:17 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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Thanks. I haven't misted today and I dubbed them this morning. The action figure is an old autographes " dude love" from wwf and the stones are just decoration. Some say there chakra stones, healing crystals, etc. Personally I just like the way they look haha.




On second thought that doesn't look like savage at all, looks like an off brand of him lol. Good luck with the grow.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: grow4fun]
    #25048141 - 03/08/18 09:23 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Update from yesterday
Trich vs pins

Few side pins coming up
What's the main reason then too much moisture?


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Sutty86]
    #25048159 - 03/08/18 09:32 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

i wish i could explain it. imo it gets too lost in translation.

do a combination of shoes. dubtubed, misting, no misting, top layers no top layer. just fuck around.
then when you get it right, remember what you did and try to duplicate. no clones or isolates needed to learn this shit.

use the air around you as the control and work with the ambient environment you have. i guess. i dunno fukkit:bongload:


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
    #25048164 - 03/08/18 09:39 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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i wish i could explain it. imo it gets too lost in translation.

do a combination of shoes. dubtubed, misting, no misting, top layers no top layer. just fuck around.
then when you get it right, remember what you did and try to duplicate. no clones or isolates needed to learn this shit.

use the air around you as the control and work with the ambient environment you have. i guess. i dunno fukkit:bongload:




I still think light is a small factor in pinning, but ofc fresh air is more important for sure. I also notice that mushrooms tend to grow toward indirect sunlight, they can grow in total darkness however if there is a small amount of daylight coming through lets say the cracks of a door, they tend to grow toward it. What do you have to say about that? We need your opinion lol.

That's the plan brother. These 6qts are too easy to experiment with and can do multiple things at once to compare results, got 5 on the go right now, will spawn another 15 or so very soon :crazy2:
I love them and may ditch the bigger tubs and just use these small 6qts and 20qts for now on.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: grow4fun]
    #25048180 - 03/08/18 09:53 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Mushrooms are phototropic.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Mycolorado]
    #25048185 - 03/08/18 09:56 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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Mushrooms are phototropic.



Yes so they do infact tend to grow toward light, when given.

Some people don't believe light influences direction at all, makes me think if they've ever even grown. :facepalm:

Edit: So what if light (6500k) was given near the sides of a tub, would that cause more side pins then if the light was above the tub and properly placed?


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: grow4fun]
    #25048190 - 03/08/18 10:02 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

this pinned in complete 100% sealed up darkness.

yes the are phototropic but how do they pin in darkness if its a trigger at all?
if anything its just a small piece of a much larger puzzle.

..uh imo

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Edit: So what if light (6500k) was given near the sides of a tub, would that cause more side pins then if the light was above the tub and properly placed?




no. they would grow up and lean like a mofo if no other light was provided
keep your surface conditions on point. one end wont explode in pins just cause it has 'more' exposure.

i have a 6500k on my floor and 2 on the ceiling of my grow area. i dont have bottom pins.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
    #25048193 - 03/08/18 10:09 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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this pinned in complete 100% sealed up darkness.

yes the are phototropic but how do they pin in darkness if its a trigger at all?
if anything its just a small piece of a much larger puzzle.

..uh imo




This is what I am saying, light is an additive just like gypsum or coffee is an additive to a substrate. Or even giving steriods to a lifter will help benefit them but it isn't necessary. I believe light helps, unnecessary but helps. In nature there are mushrooms that grow just fine inside caves with total darkness. But what I am asking is if proper light does in fact influence the direction of the fruits. I am also wondering since light is a small factor in pinning, will using light above a tub may help (not prevent) reduce side pins.

There is many many many things you can do to help your grow.

Edit: I read that RR says that in total darkness they will grow against gravity therefore grow straight. But I have noticed they can grow in all sorts of directions if there is no light to direct them. In your picture there is pins but they look like they are growing in wacky directions, which I think is due to total darkness the mushrooms grow how they want to grow.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: grow4fun]
    #25048201 - 03/08/18 10:14 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

:obamafrown:

wrong thread but cool stuff.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
    #25048204 - 03/08/18 10:17 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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no. they would grow up and lean like a mofo if no other light was provided
keep your surface conditions on point. one end wont explode in pins just cause it has 'more' exposure.

i have a 6500k on my floor and 2 on the ceiling of my grow area. i dont have bottom pins.




I'm not worried about bottom pins because the sub is not floating in the tub, but the sides shrink. So you're saying light on the sides don't matter for side pins at all?

So light above a tub or light on the side of the tub, which do you prefer or do you not care where they are placed? I'm just wondering.

Edit: I think this info is relevant and will help users with their shoeboxes. And they would like to hear your opinion as do I. :wink:


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: grow4fun]
    #25048206 - 03/08/18 10:18 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

ambient light bro. its not weed

i want my light dispersed. i never understood the spotlight on tubs. it looks like a bomb:lol:

start anothre thread called 'light placement questions' my opinion isnt worth more than anyone elses.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
    #25048215 - 03/08/18 10:22 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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ambient light bro. its not weed

i want my light dispersed. i never understood the spotlight on tubs. it looks like a bomb:lol:

start anothre thread called 'light placement questions' my opinion isnt worth more than anyone elses.





But you're mushboy. Just wanted to see what ye gotta say about it that's all. Thanks for the info.

Maybe I just want to add to your thread that's already 200 pages. Let's make it bigger. :hehehe:

Done with the light questions don't worry.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
    #25048219 - 03/08/18 10:23 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

i should also say, side or bottom pins on later flushes dont bother me one bit. because the sub shrank from the pinset i can push out:shrug:
and what does pin on the bottom and sides is minimal.light may cause those to some degree i guess?? or the changing micro climate?? i dunno.

sounds like a topic for another thread :awesomenod:


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
    #25048221 - 03/08/18 10:24 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Yoo hows this Look yo yea guys cased it almost a week ago





both cased the same day

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
    #25048225 - 03/08/18 10:27 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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i should also say, side or bottom pins on later flushes dont bother me one but. because the sub shrank from the pinset i can push out:shrug:

light may cause those to some degree i guess?? or the change micro climate?? i dunno.

sounds like a topic for another thread :awesomenod:




Side pins on first flush are a bitch to harvest, but yes later flushes are fine for side pins cause they aren't hard to get at, more surface area to grow too. But I like a consistent canopy of pins on the surface just cause i like em like that. I like the forest type look.


NateDog: looks good so far, but to me it looks a little dried out. Maybe a small mist? Idk lets see what someone else has to say.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: grow4fun]
    #25048244 - 03/08/18 10:39 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)



i like a nice bare side of substrate with a head of shroom hair. like a peaky blinder hispter haircut.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: natedog889]
    #25048261 - 03/08/18 10:46 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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Yoo hows this Look yo yea guys cased it almost a week ago





both cased the same day

What you boyzz think about it??



Looks... interesting


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Germs]
    #25048264 - 03/08/18 10:47 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

trich. look under the tub. i bet the bottom will have a big ol green patch.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
    #25048281 - 03/08/18 10:53 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

:whathesaid: Looks like trich colonizing the sub


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