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Levster
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy] 1
#24260677 - 04/20/17 10:20 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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You think lack of FAE is the cause for my small fruits? MAkes sense.. the lids are only cracked, and I mist once a day.. maybe twice if they look a bit dry
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Mad Season
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Levster]
#24260681 - 04/20/17 10:22 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think if you want full fruits, give as much fae as possible. It will only help out.
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mushboy
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Levster]
#24260684 - 04/20/17 10:24 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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i dont think that. these are dense ass pinsets for lack of fae..
i would think not keeping up with water demands/genetics would be more to blame. fae??? nah
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#24260690 - 04/20/17 10:26 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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should also be noted most of my recent grows have been with rather old spawn. as in 3-4weeks past 100%.
not all but its worth mentioning.. kinda forgot about that
EDIT: in fact pic 3 was spawned about 3months from the inoculation date.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#24260863 - 04/20/17 11:49 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Let's say, for argument sake you were home all day and the lids are cracked, or have a little gap for decent FAE. how often would you mist that day? I feel like I want to mist every 4 - 5 hours.. because I'll look in there and of course the mushrooms have no condensation left on them, but the myc/sub around it has tiny beads of water, but that isn't the pinning trigger is it, the water evaporating off the fruit is.. right?
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Levster]
#24261017 - 04/21/17 02:03 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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2-4, or when we've it needs it Man.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#24261151 - 04/21/17 06:09 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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mushboy said: i dont think that. these are dense ass pinsets for lack of fae..
i would think not keeping up with water demands/genetics would be more to blame. fae??? nah
I can get dense pinsets with low passive FAE as well, but I think what Mad is getting at is the fact that maximum FAE helps with proper development of the fruit bodies after your pinset is in. We all know that cubes will grow in low FAE environments, but they will always perform much better with more
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Munchauzen said: started using em round 2 years ago and now they are all I use anymore
I don't put them in monos thou. I either just leave the lids on or dub them.
Wowza
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Thcforme]
#24261261 - 04/21/17 07:43 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Got a busy day today! Lots of work (career) and today is harvest day of shoebox #1, yield is huge! Also am making a spore print tonight. I dont know how im going to harvest it.. I read in a monotub harvest that didn't use a liner they fill it up with water, and it will actually float the whole sub to the top, because I dont want to crack my sub! I hope with all the fruits it will still float.. it'll float right to the top, then i can pull it out gently and harvest..
PICS COMING SOON!
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mushboy
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ComebackKid said: I can get dense pinsets with low passive FAE as well, but I think what Mad is getting at is the fact that maximum FAE helps with proper development of the fruit bodies after your pinset is in.
i thought you would get shit pins with low fae??
and after the pins come in i damn near fruit them in open air. unless my ambient conditions are THAT bad... which i am open too!
whenever i use my godlike powers of ultimate shroom knowledge attitude, i must remember to heed my own words.. so! usually if i were the one looking at this as someone else i would say 'check your spawn'
i know that shit is clean.. however, using wbs is not mainstream anymore really for a reason the way oats/rye/wheat have become. so ill be trying my new whole oats i got and doing some fresh, more traditional minis/monos NOT in the opened closet. no shoeboxes, or weird cakes or 2month old spawning for kicks. no open air BS. just plain ol' shroomin.
probably should update OP with newer pics if results are better. I wrote this while i was 'feeling' the booze withdrawal and im surprised anything was spelled correctly/formatted somewhat coherently.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#24261379 - 04/21/17 09:10 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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mushboy said:
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ComebackKid said: I can get dense pinsets with low passive FAE as well, but I think what Mad is getting at is the fact that maximum FAE helps with proper development of the fruit bodies after your pinset is in.
i thought you would get shit pins with low fae??
and after the pins come in i damn near fruit them in open air. unless my ambient conditions are THAT bad... which i am open too!
whenever i use my godlike powers of ultimate shroom knowledge attitude, i must remember to heed my own words.. so! usually if i were the one looking at this as someone else i would say 'check your spawn'
i know that shit is clean.. however, using wbs is not mainstream anymore really for a reason the way oats/rye/wheat have become. so ill be trying my new whole oats i got and doing some fresh, more traditional minis/monos NOT in the opened closet. no shoeboxes, or weird cakes or 2month old spawning for kicks. no open air BS. just plain ol' shroomin.
probably should update OP with newer pics if results are better. I wrote this while i was 'feeling' the booze withdrawal and im surprised anything was spelled correctly/formatted somewhat coherently.
Are you suggesting that shoebox tek with WBS is not the way to go then? I was just getting confident with a build other than cakes..
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Mad Season
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Levster]
#24261398 - 04/21/17 09:19 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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He isn't saying that. Shoeboxes are great.
And cbk nailed it, I meant now that the pinset is in, up the fae as much as possible, they'll grow out very nice and full. Although I also initiate fruiting with as much fae as possible, and mist when needed. They pin just fine when I do that as well. Either way cubes are fuckin easy to grow and come out in basically any environment.
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mushboy
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I'm still confused though. Once my pins are in I expose to max fae. As in, lids are off or cracked.
I deal with bruising substrates often when I'm not ontop of the surface conditions.
I agree with the size. And I DO what both mad and cbk said. So how can it be a lack of fae when I fruit with open containers?
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#24261524 - 04/21/17 10:29 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Idk they don't look all that small to me.. Pretty average to me. Dwarf shrooms look much smaller than that. I was just suggesting to increase fae if he wants more plump fruits now the pinset is in, assuming we're talking about levster.
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mushboy
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!!
i thought you were talking about me.
mr self centered over here
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Levster
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#24262083 - 04/21/17 03:28 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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sup guys well here you go!
Box #1 of many.. first flush 201.75g wet.. decent or what?!
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mynakedrat
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Levster]
#24262089 - 04/21/17 03:31 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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That's really good for a mini!
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mushboy
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should dry to about 18g. i like to think a oz per quart is money. but aint nothing wrong with 18g for your first go. my results only get better(yah right) so keep up the good work.
try using more spawn.. real soon ill be doing 2 and 3 quarts of grain per shoebox. i think those will perform better inside monos. the shoeboxes i leave on the shelf with the flipped lid seem to perform better.
anyway, good job bro. enjoy those fruits.
i really like seeing other people who try this outim learning from you too. thanks.
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Levster
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#24262241 - 04/21/17 05:00 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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yeah, so I made a few mistakes.. Let's see what happens..
first mistake, Is because the first few shoeboxes were 1qt spawn, they dried out pretty fast, so yes, I cracked it SLIGHTLY. As soon as I heard a KSSHHTT I stopped moving it hahah.. We will see if it recovers.. It didn't fully crack, just ripped the bottom a bit..
second mistake, I dunk it.. for 9 hours.. lol I read that only with a heavy pinset you should dunk for only an hour, otherwise just heavily mist it.. oh well, im gunna fan the shit out of it every couple hours to let it dry quicker.. I don't want contams, I want another sexy flush
I got a bunch of 2qt shoeboxes going now, I'm sure those will be money.
Thanks for all your guys' info, the entire house smells like shrooms now that they are in my excalibur 9 tray dehydrator.. Another problem (minor) As they dry, they start blowing around in there.. Kinda gotta figure out a technique for that
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Levster]
#24263426 - 04/22/17 06:24 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm digging these shoe box sized totes you guys are rockin! Might have to give me a go myself!
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