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Munchauzen


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sorry I thought I was replying to the other guy that said his tubs were drying out before 100%.... i was confused for a second, like your tubs fruited while they were colonizing, wtf? lol
anyway... ya unless that substrate is horribly contaminated or dried out, thats not a cube. doesn't look anything like a cube, like not even close. it does very closely resemble Ps. mexicana.
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Hopeless_Hound
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I’ve had the same experience, even at a bit over field capacity I’ve still had to mist on about day 5-6(that’s with the lid being on the whole time besides occasional checks) but that’s fine because that’s generally around when they get put into fruiting anyways.
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If it’s Mexicana your in for a treat with the stones in the sub.
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Edited by Hopeless_Hound (02/16/18 07:33 PM)
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Munchauzen


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Asura]
#24999681 - 02/16/18 07:35 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Munchauzen said: that shouldn't be happening. are your boxes sitting under an A/C register or have a fan on them?
I'm glad you are saying this is abnormal. No fans, nothing. They were in a closet the first 3 days then I put them on a shelf in my grow room. I'm misting 3 times a day. It has to be my locale. The weather here is crazy. On Monday, I'm running the heat and freezing to death. My house has 0 insulation. Today I have the A/C on 70 and I'm sweating. It's up and down and all over the place. I thought it was just the lids on the shoeboxes TBH.
could be. some of my lids fit better than others for sure. some of them even have manufacturing defects. some like to snap tight while others won't even think about snapping shut. def try keeping them in a mono or taping them shut. I've even wrapped them in grocery bags before.
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Munchauzen


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ya thats usually about the time to expect it. 3 days in tells me something else is an issue
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Asura
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Hopeless_Hound said: I’ve had the same experience, even at a bit over field capacity I’ve still had to mist on about day 5-6(that’s with the lid being on the whole time besides occasional checks) but that’s fine because that’s generally around when they get put into fruiting anyways.
Thanks for checking in. I was thinking I was going insane.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Asura]
#24999709 - 02/16/18 07:43 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yea I think most of the issues with drying out are probably sub below capacity, I usually strain most of the coir and leave a small amount that’s overly wet in the pot and use that as the top psuedo casing. Although a bit on the dry side is always better than overly wet ime
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Asura
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Munchauzen said: could be. some of my lids fit better than others for sure. some of them even have manufacturing defects. some like to snap tight while others won't even think about snapping shut. def try keeping them in a mono or taping them shut. I've even wrapped them in grocery bags before.
I'm going to put the next round in garbage bags to see how that works out. I'd like them to make it 100% colonization. And thanks to you, I know that's what is supposed to be the case.
I am going to do the next round in mono's for sure. I'm pretty committed to learning how to make these work.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Asura]
#24999801 - 02/16/18 08:22 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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It might be low fae/:
I could swear I separated mexicanas and cubensis
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Doc9151
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flyhighfunguy said: Do you usually need to mist during colonization? I thought you were supposed to try to keep the lid closed as much as possible until its fully colonized.
If your in a really dry environment, you may need to mist sooner than someone in a more humid area.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Doc9151]
#24999824 - 02/16/18 08:35 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's really dry in my neck of the woods. I mist during the colonization run as well. If I don't the the surface will form a 'skin' on it and its pretty well trashed if that happens.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: RomeoPapa]
#24999852 - 02/16/18 08:47 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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I am in the most humid environment possible in the US. You still need to do this.
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Munchauzen


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Asura]
#24999861 - 02/16/18 08:51 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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proustdreams
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The side pinset is probably as dense, if not denser than the surface pinset. Got a tub that's just starting to knot and they're all on the surface this time!!!
My powers...they're getting stronger! So glad I ditched the kit for my first time, learning far more from fucking up and taking notes.
Pressure cooker + mini-rounds are on their way! Got quart jars, SAB, Karo, agar supplies, etc. all ready. I'm debating if I should take a few LC clones in small salsa jars and clean em up on agar once the PC arrives.
Agar --> power level increase.
Also fuck you Mushboy I initially set out to do a one time thing with minimal investment. I wouldn't have got all this shit if it weren't for your thread =P JK TY so much!!
Edited by proustdreams (02/16/18 10:19 PM)
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Spivkurl
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The side pinset is probably as dense, if not denser than the surface pinset. Got a tub that's just starting to knot and they're all on the surface this time!!!
My powers...they're getting stronger! So glad I ditched the kit for my first time, learning far more from fucking up and taking notes.
Pressure cooker + mini-rounds are on their way! Got quart jars, SAB, Karo, agar supplies, etc. all ready. I'm debating if I should take a few LC clones in small salsa jars and clean em up on agar once the PC arrives.
Agar --> power level increase.
Yeah, that looks like a sweet box o' shrooms! Is that a B+ variety?
If you're getting results like this before agar work, then it will surely increase the power level! Was just planning my next agar session, and I'm finding I need to prioritize more now... Five different varieties on agar, a bunch of cloned pins, some plates becoming less sectored. So addictive! Had to buy more containers since I don't want to give up many of the colonized ones yet.
I would highly recommend agar > shredded BRF cakes > CVG shoebox. I am finding it to be pretty fool proof, and a bit more forgiving than grain jars. I'm on the verge of inoculating cakes with cloned pins, and I have a feeling it will be awesome when put to bulk.
Cool post.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Spivkurl]
#25001298 - 02/17/18 12:59 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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 Hello all; spawned 3 days ago at 1:2 shredded BRF cake to CVG. Not sure when to fruit.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: wushroow]
#25001305 - 02/17/18 01:03 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Here is some Puerto Ricans I harvested from a brf to cvg shoebox.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: wushroow]
#25001464 - 02/17/18 02:40 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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wushroow said:
 Hello all; spawned 3 days ago at 1:2 shredded BRF cake to CVG. Not sure when to fruit.
Get that thing fruiting asap. It will love you for it.
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Spivkurl
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 Hello all; spawned 3 days ago at 1:2 shredded BRF cake to CVG. Not sure when to fruit.
Get that thing fruiting asap. It will love you for it. 
Just be sure to mist if you're in a dry climate or have the furnace running! Looks nice!
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Zachsonpub
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proustdreams said:
But I did this same set up as soon as the substrate was 100% colonized, but it was a mistake. Led to poor surface conditions, and the sub shrank a lot.
This happened to me too. Sort of hardened the top of sub.
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Munchauzen said: 12/12 cycle the entire time. You should not be changing your lighting situation at any point during a grow. Keep it at 12/12 and don't change it.
I meant 12/12 ambient during colonization, then 12/12 direct or more intense for fruiting. Do you just keep it the same the entire time?
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