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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Zachsonpub]
    #24999471 - 02/16/18 06:15 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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My shoeboxes are dub tubbed at night with the top lid slightly ajar. During the day they’re either open air fruiting when I’m at home, or dub tubbed with big gaps while I’m at work. Meh.




Are they pinning yet?

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I think I read here most of you leave the boxes in the dark till harvest right




I don't know that I've seen anyone have their tub/box/grow in complete darkness the entire time. 12/12 cycle of direct light at pinning/fruiting, prior to that, ambient/indirect light is good during colonization.





They're past the pinning stage, I should be harvesting tomorrow morning. 

But I did this same set up as soon as the substrate was 100% colonized, but it was a mistake.  Led to poor surface conditions, and the sub shrank a lot. And created a perfect microclimate on the sides of the tub.  I closed the lid back up after I had realized my mistake. Next time I don't think I'd ramp up FAE so much until the pinset has matured a bit and is nice and dense all across the shoebox.

In the future I'll probably keep the lid latched on until I see a nice pinset across the tub, then ramp up FAE (dub tub, open air) once the pins have developed some meat and height.  But I'm learning that this too is variable depending on the conditions at home.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: flyhighfunguy]
    #24999494 - 02/16/18 06:28 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: proustdreams]
    #24999497 - 02/16/18 06:30 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Hey I have a potentially dumb question, sorry. For my next run could I put each shoebox in a
trash bag (like people used to do with monos way back in the day)? Not for keeping things dark, but for keeping in moisture until full colonization.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Asura]
    #24999512 - 02/16/18 06:35 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Just tape the lid onto the shoebox or tape the dubtub if you´re worried. I would just mist occasionally.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Mateja]
    #24999540 - 02/16/18 06:42 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Do you usually need to mist during colonization? I thought you were supposed to try to keep the lid closed as much as possible until its fully colonized.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Zachsonpub]
    #24999543 - 02/16/18 06:42 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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I don't know that I've seen anyone have their tub/box/grow in complete darkness the entire time. 12/12 cycle of direct light at pinning/fruiting, prior to that, ambient/indirect light is good during colonization.



12/12 cycle the entire time. You should not be changing your lighting situation at any point during a grow. Keep it at 12/12 and don't change it.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: flyhighfunguy]
    #24999550 - 02/16/18 06:45 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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Do you usually need to mist during colonization? I thought you were supposed to try to keep the lid closed as much as possible until its fully colonized.




You can't wait. The lids allow so much FAE that I was misting 3 days after spawning. And it
was dry AF when I first checked them.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Asura]
    #24999565 - 02/16/18 06:53 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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Asura said:
Hey I have a potentially dumb question, sorry. For my next run could I put each shoebox in a
trash bag (like people used to do with monos way back in the day)? Not for keeping things dark, but for keeping in moisture until full colonization.




I've found an ideal seal by placing small weight on top. I use a 4oz jar inside a ½ pint. Remove as needed.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: LadysKnight]
    #24999572 - 02/16/18 06:56 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

why not fruit in a trash bag and for go the typical rectangular approach? youd be surprised how well that works.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
    #24999582 - 02/16/18 07:01 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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Do you usually need to mist during colonization? I thought you were supposed to try to keep the lid closed as much as possible until its fully colonized.



if you need to mist during colonization, your substrate was nowhere close to field capacity. sometimes you might need to mist before they pin, but they should not be drying while the sub is below 100%.

I personally find taping the lids to be somewhat of a hassle and waste of tape. Lately, I've just been colonizing them in monos with tape and fruiting them in monos without tape. being in the mono during colonization and pre-pinning helps cut down on the FAE it is exposed to from the shitty lid. I haven't had to mist any of these yet and the surfaces are gleaming and just knotted.



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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Munchauzen]
    #24999593 - 02/16/18 07:04 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

:whoah:


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
    #24999632 - 02/16/18 07:19 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)



Pins from mystery print !


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Alpineswift]
    #24999641 - 02/16/18 07:21 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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Pins from mystery print !



some kind of Ps. mexicana. was it a small print? looks like tampanensis.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Munchauzen]
    #24999642 - 02/16/18 07:22 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Pins are slight small \and thin
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But I think it was cubensis print


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Munchauzen]
    #24999643 - 02/16/18 07:22 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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if you need to mist during colonization, your substrate was nowhere close to field capacity. sometimes you might need to mist before they pin, but they should not be drying while the sub is below 100%.




Not trying to argue, but this has not been my experience so far. I don't claim expertise,
but I can do a sub with spot on field cap. 3 days after spawning, surface was pretty dry. There
are many more variables to this than just field cap (RH, temp, etc). That's where I am off.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Asura]
    #24999645 - 02/16/18 07:23 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

that shouldn't be happening. are your boxes sitting under an A/C register or have a fan on them? if they have that much fae on them, you need to rethink your situation.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Munchauzen]
    #24999650 - 02/16/18 07:26 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

No they are up in a closet with the lid cracked


From this giveaway,


This would also be the first flush with these


This is day of pinning with little light


I just put up a 6500k lamp I had stored btw


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Alpineswift]
    #24999653 - 02/16/18 07:27 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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No they are up in a closet with the lid cracked


From this giveaway,


This would also be the first flush with these


This is day of pinning with little light


I just put up a 6500k lamp I had stored btw



don't crack the lids while its colonizing... I don't think its suggested in this tek to crack them during colonization.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Munchauzen]
    #24999656 - 02/16/18 07:28 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

But they started pinning :O


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Munchauzen]
    #24999662 - 02/16/18 07:29 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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Munchauzen said:
that shouldn't be happening. are your boxes sitting under an A/C register or have a fan on them?




I'm glad you are saying this is abnormal. No fans, nothing. They were in a closet the first
3 days then I put them on a shelf in my grow room. I'm misting 3 times a day. It has to be
my locale. The weather here is crazy. On Monday, I'm running the heat and freezing to death.
My house has 0 insulation. Today I have the A/C on 70 and I'm sweating. It's up and down and
all over the place. I thought it was just the lids on the shoeboxes TBH.


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